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Posted by treenutt 8 (My Page) on
Fri, Dec 27, 13 at 13:53

I know this topic has been brought up before, but cant seem to find it. What's yalls experience with tree tubes for seedlings? Ive been doing some internet research and they are quite expensive. Any do your self material available? thanks treenutt


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Tree tubes as in a shipping method? I dunno. I like it when things are cheap and I can experiment. Seems one step better than bare root, especially if stock gets held up in a UPS truck for a couple days.

FWIW, I have had very good luck with maples in tubes I have received.

What are ya doing? Thinking about ordering some tubes for growing in?


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Are you referring to tree tubes, as in 'tree shelters', like TreePro, Tubex, etc.?
I have used them - and in some settings, they're a 'must' - otherwise, deer, rabbits, etc. browse them constantly - and sometimes out of existence. But, otherwise, I'm not a huge fan - they tend to foster rapid, but spindly growth.

Several types shown here:

Here is a link that might be useful: Tree tubes


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  • Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
    Fri, Dec 27, 13 at 19:01

There are several acres covered with seedlings with these tubes near a park in my area. Not sure who planted them but there are many that are starting to take off.

They would have never lasted a season without the tube with the surrounding woods.

This post was edited by whaas on Fri, Dec 27, 13 at 19:43


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tree tubes, shelters, used to help seedlings get past the first couple of years out in the wild Like what (lucky) mentioned.


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More or less untended seedlings may have a higher survival rate in tubes, or in a setting where rabbits & deer will have unhindered access to them, they're a good investment.
On a tree in your yard that's easy to keep an eye on and care for, I'm not a fan of 'em. Have used them in that setting before, and was not pleased with the results.


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  • Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
    Sat, Dec 28, 13 at 22:35

Lucky, that was my point but not clearly stated. I'd personally never use them on my half acre but an unattended field adjacent to the woods its absolutely necessary for success.


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whaas,
The hooved rats are becoming such a problem for me that even in the yard here, close to the house, and the neighbors' homes, anything small has to be protected til it's big enough that the rabbits don't eat it, then a few more years til it's big enough that the bucks don't want to rub on it.
Stuff planted out around the farm? Fuhgeddaboutit without a tree shelter.


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  • Posted by whaas 5a SE WI (My Page) on
    Sun, Dec 29, 13 at 21:25

I found deer tracks along my front yard, a couple feet off the fondation....thinking what the hell are you doing up here?

Didn't see any damage to anything though.


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Having worked with tree tubes for nearly 25 years, I thought I'd weigh in here.
Whether in a back yard or the back 40 it is always better to plant small seedling trees as compared to large potted or B&B trees with deformed root systems that will cause health problems and shorten the life of the tree down the road. Plus, a much wider array of tree species are available as seedlings as compared to the limited offerings of larger trees at local garden centers and big box gardening departments.
Tree tubes (aka treeshelters) have come a long way since being introduced to the USA from the UK in 1988. As Lucky says Tree Protection Supply in Georgia, along with Mossy Oak Nativ Nurseries in Mississippi, are the best sources.
Yes, trees to grow taller and thinner until they emerge from tree tubes, but the tubes are meant to be left in place to support the trees until they can support themselves.
At $4 to $5 for a tree tube and stake they might seem expensive, but they are without question the most cost-effective way to successfully establish a tree. In the landscape a seedling plus tree tube costs a fraction of a large potted or B&B tree and will grow faster and live longer. In the back 40 tree tubes cost a lot less than wire cages and ensure a high survival rate even during drought, avoiding the risk of failure and replanting (which is the most expensive thing of all).
There's no good way to make your own; tree tubes are made from specially formulated translucent plastic with just the right % of light transmission, and which is safe for use with trees.
Full disclosure: I'm in the business of selling tree tubes... but I do because I believe in them!


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I have used some homemade shelters and they weren't tall enough to protect the tops of some seedlings. I will order a few taller ones from Mossy oak natives, where lots of my oaks are from anyway. They will be spindly until they get over the top of the shelters. I would think if you left those trees grow without shelters, you may be pruning off those lower branches anyway, eventually. I have a Durand oak that had a shelter that was very wide( a giant pot with the bottom cut out ) And the seedling is branched from the bottom to top, I WISH I stopped all these branches from forming, now I will need to prune most off eventually to mow in back of them once they get taller and wider.


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quercus13
send me your info. I will check out the tree tubes you have.
thanks treenutt


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I've had no luck with tree tubes (Tubex) in my climate. Growth was spindly and the trees failed to harden off for winter. In some cases, the foliage overheated and died in hot, sunny weather. I tried drilling ventilation holes in many with no luck.

I've gone to adjustable welded wire enclosures and hardware cloth to protect my trees against deer, rabbit and vole damage.


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Salmon, I bet your trees didn't do well because they were not vented. I had the same issues and kicked tree tubes to the curb until they started making them with venting. Now I use them religiously and the results are astounding. Yes, from time to time I have had some trees come out spindly, but then I started using pvc stakes and it really changed the growth pattern from spindly to sturdy stems that hold themselves up and keep up with the growth of the trees. Wire cages do protect trees, but do nothing more than that. Tree tubes get my vote.


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