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Crazy warm temps

Posted by poaky1 6 Pa (My Page) on
Mon, Dec 5, 11 at 19:00

We post when we have really cold weather, what about warmer than usual? I was able to go out in just a T-shirt today. It was 62 F and about the same yesterday. I'm sure it won't last, but anybody northern, or who is usually freezing now having the same heat wave?


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Palm trees are growing around here now. Not only my own though. The town planted some Mexican fan palms around town hall and they're growing strong. November was 4.5 degrees above normal and the air was in use in early November. It is supposed to get much colder but don't see temps dropping too much below 32 F. My forsythia has been been blooming for the past few weeks now!


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Funny because on this day 5 years ago, it was 92 degrees or something. Right now, it's cold in the 30s.

I don't recall the exact date but I sure remember going from 92*F to 14*F in a few days. That was quite a shock for everybody and plants too.


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Afternoon high was 34 today, and there was a couple inches of snow to our south today. Nothing unusual all all, but not warm either. We had 17 last week. Again, not all all unusual. Looking at the weather models, enjoy it while you can poaky, comes to a halt this weekend.

Arktrees


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  • Posted by beng z6b western MD (My Page) on
    Tue, Dec 6, 11 at 14:07

Right now the cold's out west, so warm here. Cold-season grass is still green. Mint is sprouting. Any time I'm not using central heat in Dec is a good day....

In late Jan 1974, IIRC, it got up to near 80F two days in a row in western Md.


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Yup, the cold is out here. It was 0 the other night. I left some soda in the car overnight... they started exploding by the next morning.


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Arktrees,I saw on the weather channel that it will be getting cooler.Beng, Some of my perennials are still green, cabbage and broccoli still producing. I saw about the west getting the chill for now.The air is flowing from up north and affecting the Sw different from usual. Lou they made a joke on weather ch that if you don't like the weather in Texas just wait a day. Strange to hear Nevada is zone 5. When you are in the east never being out west, you think north= cold south= warm. Njoasis, I have seed from some "hardy" palms to try in 2012, zone 6 supposedly. I should've got plants instead of seed but, seed was cheap.Well, keep warm everybody, poaky1


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11 below last night. Sending it your way. No thanks needed.


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The majority of Nevada is nothing like Las Vegas. The growing season here is 3 months on average... June 10th to September 10th. Its still in the 90s almost every day in July and August... but it drops to the 40s almost every night.


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Gandle,is the NE for Nebraska or New England? famartin, are you at a high elevation? If it drops to the 40's can you grow tomatoes, peppers, melons, cukes and warm weather crops? I guess if you used something that stored the days heat and released it over the night? A friend of mine stayed out west in an RV park and told me about the lack of natural heat storage making the night temps lower. She said it was unique and beautiful in Arizona but the first sighting of a western diamond back near the RV made it less appealing to stay there. Well, back on subject, it was 43 this afternoon, I was okay to do some stuff outside in a thin windbreaker, but it will be going to the 20's for lows this weekend, not quite what gandle has, but there's a 17+F in there midweek.


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I'm at 5,000 feet. People do try to grow stuff in the summer but, particularly for tomatoes, they have to ripen it off the vine.

Biggest factor with the rapid overnight cool-offs is the low humidity. It routinely falls below 10% in the summer, and sub-5% is not unusual. Its only a bit better in winter. Today we had a low of 5F and high of 45F.


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Not crazy warm anymore but the sun still working some magic. These Camellia japonicas normally bloom in March for me, but noticed them in full bloom this morning as I went out for the newspaper.

Here is a link that might be useful: Camellia japonica in bloom


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Nebraska. Warm here today, up in the 30's.


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Njoasis, I hope the Camellias don't get damaged from the bad timing. Well, if they aren't dormant they probably will. Hopefully you can prune them and save the plant. I'm guessing I don't know much about them, I can't grow them here in zone 6, unless I get a sunroom. It's on my wish list. Famartin, I didn't think of the air itself holding heat, I was thinking more like land features. Well, that explains the hot Fla days not being much cooler at night when I got to visit Florida. We're getting 19+ F tonight, then 22+ F tommorrow night, after that we get back to 40's and mid 30's, yea!


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Poaky, yes the air (specifically water vapor in the air) definitely holds heat, in fact water vapor is a major greenhouse gas.


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Poaky, I don't expect the the cold to have any effect on the general health of the plant--they are hardy. It may effect the number of blooms in March somewhat. The plant is dormant--not actually growing, and it is normal for the swollen buds to persist on the plant over the winter.

PS., Yes, water vapor is a major greenhouse gas--especially for NIGHT temperatures. This partly explains why arid areas drop off so quickly when the sun goes down, and why humid areas hold on to heat so well at night. And as the planet does warm, the water in the atmosphere will also be rising.


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I never thought of water vapor being a greenhouse gas. I thought that was co2 and bad pollutants only. We got in the teens last night but 40's today. They keep promising a warming trend. I guess it could be worse.


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