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will hollyhock surive the winter
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Posted by
ellenrr 6B (
My Page) on
Mon, Aug 8, 11 at 7:37
Hi all,
The hollyhock that I sowed is in a big pot and so far just has some leaves. It is clearly not going to bloom this year.
I'm debating whether or not to leave it outside over the winter in the pot, in a sheltered place, and see if it survives, and blooms next year.
Any ideas or experience on this?
thanks,
ellen
[It is the Black one that I got in trade, and I so want to see it bloom.] |
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RE: will hollyhock surive the winter
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| Plant them in the ground. They should do fine. Karen |
RE: will hollyhock surive the winter
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| The only hollyhock that survived the winter was one I set in the ground in a pot & mulched w/straw. I grew several plants via WS but only two bloomed and both of them died over the winter. One was planted on the west side of my garage, an area very exposed to harsh winter weather. The one that didn't bloom was set in the ground along with a few dozen other WS plants and mulched with a thick layer of straw. Everything was covered by 8 ft. of snow over the course of the winter but just the one that was in the ground & mulched with straw survived. It bloomed this year and is now planted on the north side of my house. I'm guessing without mulch this winter it won't come back. The rule of thumb for overwintering things in pots is they have to be hardy to two zones colder than your actual zone. So for you in zone 6, the plants would need to be hardy to Z4 in order to survive winter just in a pot. I believe hollyhocks are hardy only to Z5. I grew several containers of HH via WS last year and only one plant survived. The ones I WS this year are scrawny and only a couple have grown as tall as 8 inches so I'm not expecting any to survive the winter. The flowers are gorgeous but I won't waste time or effort on them again if they're so difficult to keep alive. |
RE: will hollyhock surive the winter
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| My hollyhocks overwinter in the ground, zone 3b. I do have a black; but, other than that they are generic. I usually transplant to the location I want them one year; they sit there doing nothing and bloom the following year. |
RE: will hollyhock surive the winter
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- Posted by bakemom z6 Central Ohio (My Page) on
Mon, Aug 8, 11 at 10:59
| My black hhs are tough. In the ground I say. BTW, I used to think the black was a rare color, but it's very very common. |
RE: will hollyhock surive the winter
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Are HH,s a bi annual ? I grew some this year also,can I expect them to not show up next year, but reappear, the following year?
cAROL |
RE: will hollyhock surive the winter
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| GOK :) Officially, hh bloom the second year and die. However, I think there are perennial varieties. Add to that, it is next to impossible to know if the plant that looks the same year after year is coming up from the root or from seedlings lodged in the base of the plant. |
RE: will hollyhock surive the winter
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| I ws'ed black holly hock in '10, put the seedlings right in the ground that summer, and have a nice "gathering" of about 5 plants with tall stalks right now. Next to a purple blooming butterfly bush on one side and a pink rose on the other side- looks nice. Can't say if this kind comes back every year to bloom, but I have another spot across the yard that are pinks and burgundys and they come back each year. seeds that fall? Maybe.. but I do gather a lot of seeds. |
RE: will hollyhock surive the winter
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| As noted above hollyhocks are often ''officially'' biannual but I have some that do their best in the third year so I feel the designation is a rule of thumb. |
RE: will hollyhock surive the winter
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| Mine all died from rust. I just re-started some from seeds. I will be using a fungicide and cornmeal. |
RE: will hollyhock surive the winter
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| Hollyhock is a biennial but a voracious self seeder. I spent a good part of the morning pulling starts that my black hollyhock had self-seeded. They have a taproot, like a carrot and die back in the winter. You'll get flowers the second year and an abundance of seed. Once you get them started they keep going on their own by seed and will take over a bed if you let them. Need more seed? I'll send you some as the pods are ripe for picking on my single black Nigra hollyhock. |
RE: will hollyhock surive the winter
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| I got the low down on Hollyhocks from Trudi when I first started here on the forum. They are biennial, and so grow the first year, bloom the second, and die. They will survive the winter quite well, but they hate wet feet (which I have proved myself). I usually deadhead everything, so I have not had HH volunteers until this year. My routine was to grow them every year, in the summer, sink the little pots with the little plants in the earth in my herb garden, then in spring plant them against the fence. This year, I have saved a few of the volunteer seedlings in small pots so I don't have to sow any seeds this year. Depending on what time I have they will be sunk in the ground to overwinter, or I may discard the present plants and re-plant with the volunteers. And for rust, I don't have it anymore. An old American neighbour told me to just scratch corn meal into the soil around the roots. Works like a charm. Keep applying it during the first year and it should disappear. |
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