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WS newbie, how to stagger planting times?

Posted by lceh 7 (My Page) on
Thu, Dec 23, 10 at 14:32

We just moved to a new place with no landscaping. I have 6 big beds to fill, and my budget's miniscule. I mean tiny. Hence winter sowing! I just finished the last of my seed orders, and have about $100 invested. I REALLY hope this works, otherwise that's $100 I won't have to buy plants this spring!

I would love advice about which varieties to sow now, later, or latest. All will be sown in milk jugs using Pro-Mix. Here's my list:

From Diane's:
Nigella damascena
Alyssum
Cleome
Viola tricolor
zinnia
gaura
platycodon
chives
sweet rocket
delphinium
lavender
blue flax

From Swallowtail:
hollyhock ("Indian Spring")
lady's mantle
obedience plant
nasturtium
sweet violet
evening primrose

From Seeds & More:
rugosa rose
Father David's rose
Sweet pea
Nicotiana
lobelia
hyacinth bean
evening-scented stock
convolvulus
aster
sweet william
musk mallow
cup & saucer

From Southern States:
cosmos
chives
forget-me-not
arugula
coneflowers
watermelon
sugar snap peas
globe ameranth

I'm planning to park the containers along the southeastern side of the house (no eaves overhang there).

Many thanks for any advice. I'm scared to death this won't work!


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RE: WS newbie, how to stagger planting times?

Hi lceh & welcome to the winter sowing forum!!! We're happy to have you join us for this year's fun & games. Have you read the FAQs? A lot of information & answers to your questions can be found there as well as on trudi's website wintersown.org.

The rule of thumb is to winter sow perennials that need cold stratification first followed by hardy perennials that don't require cold strat. After that, half hardy and finally tender annuals.

From your list I'd start now with these:
gaura
platycodon
delphinium
lavender
blue flax
hollyhock
evening primrose
sweet william
musk mallow

I just learned a few days ago Alchemilla mollis/lady's mantle benefits from a warm-cold-warm approach. I've got my seeds tucked inside little ziploc baggies with moist vermiculite and will wait a few weeks before winter sowing them. Not knowing any better last year, I just winter sowed the seeds and got plenty of sprouts but thought I'd give the warm-cold-warm treatment a try for comparison.

Any of the seeds on your list that are annual varieties rather than perennials should probably wait to be winter sown until March. Hopefully other zone 7 folks will chime in and offer you zone-specific information.

Happy gardening!!!


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Gardenweed, everything I have read on the Alchemilla mollis says that there is nothing special needed for germination. That might be why you got germination last year.

Here is just one site that gives 3 ways to germinate the seeds.

As for seeds that need to be started now, there are several on your list I would start today if you can.

Lobelia is one that some benefit from 3 months cold and some that benefit from 2 months. So that for sure needs to be started.

Rosa Rugosa is another one that benefits from 2 to 3 months cold.

Stock, I haven't looked up in awhile but if I am not mistaken benefits from a month and a half cold.

There are several that you could start now but it isn't like they need the cold in order to germinate.

Here is a link that might be useful: Seed profile of Alchemilla mollis


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RE: WS newbie, how to stagger planting times?

Iceh,
Please try not to worry. Wintersowing is AMAZING, and I promise you will have more sprouts than you'll have time to plant. I've done this for 6 years, give or take, and I've not had anything but miraculous results every year. Enjoy!

Martha


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RE: WS newbie, how to stagger planting times?

I like to know where I can find some good outdoors marker for wintersowing thank you.

Happy New years 2011

Shanta


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I like to know where I can find some good outdoors marker for wintersowing thank you.

Happy New years 2011

Shanta


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RE: WS newbie, how to stagger planting times?

Shanta - Deco paint pens are available at Michael's craft stores. Wal-Mart also carries an Elmer's paint pen. These pens will not fade or wear away.


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RE: WS newbie, how to stagger planting times?

Thanks for all the advice and encouragement! Love those seedling pics, I hope my milk jugs looks that good this spring. I'm eager to get started now that Christmas stuff is out of the way. Now if those seed packets would just show up in my mailbox....


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RE: WS newbie, how to stagger planting times?

I know how tough it is waiting for those seeds to show up. Just think though, with all your new WS plants, you'll be able to harvest your own seeds next time and won't have to wait again! This year I tried to remember to stop what I was doing and take photos of the seeds & pods as I was harvesting. As you can see, half the time I forgot to keep the seedpod intact or else I didn't have a dime handy:

Hibiscus moscheutos/hardy hibiscus

Alcea rosea/hollyhock

Lupine

Aquilegia/Columbine

Coreopsis/tickseed

Dianthus/pinks


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I would wait to sow the watermelon and zinnia until Spring..they need warmth to grow and mine have done better waiting. Cleome needs a cold period so that can be sown now along with all the others that were on your list. Welcome to our crzy fun winter sowing world!!!
Joann


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RE: WS newbie, how to stagger planting times?

The rule of thumb on planting times is usually, perennials and hardy annuals first, then when it warms up to about forty degrees at night half hardy annuals and then tenders. If you have seed packets it should be easy to tell. If it doesn't say directly then the instructions plant after all danger of frost means they are either half hardy or tender.


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On a side note, violas and peas like a cold start. Don't worry about them.


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RE: WS newbie, how to stagger planting times?

Hooray, my package from Diane's arrived today! Guess who's going to be poking holes in milk jugs tonight!


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RE: WS newbie, how to stagger planting times?

Guess who's going to be poking holes in milk jugs tonight?

I would imagine, just about everyone on this forum!

Glad your seeds arrived. Have fun!!!


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