The faded flower plumes on the early bird plant formed uniform, round, 3/8 to 1/4 inch seedpods along the stems that turned dark brown and when I broke one open, a half dozen seeds poured out. Now I've got a couple tablespoons of seeds (if anyone wants to give them a try). They're slow-growing but so popular with the bees, I'd love to grow more of them.

According to Hazzard's, "Patience and prayer are helpful germination aids." Clothier's says multiple warm/cold cycles may be needed for germination. I'm guessing my best shot at growing them is this year, with fresh seed + winter sowing.

Anybody tried? Had success? Anybody want to wish me luck but not interested in the outcome? The bumblebees look like they're dancing some intricate ballet when these bloom--I could watch for hours. If anyone wants seeds to try, post here and I'll send you a trade's worth.

Didn't take a video of the bees on the flowers because I don't know how with my camera altho' it does take videos.

The ones I planted in my gardens bloomed this year (and smelled heavenly) in midsummer.

The NOID actae seeds I had were from trades and none of the seedlings had black/dark foliage. These planted by the fir tree may need more sun. I plan to move them to the driveway bed where the one blooming above is planted. (Actae on the right)

I also have a 'Hillside Black Beauty' plant that bloomed this year and collected seed which I will sow this winter.

Good luck and keep me posted with your results.

Gardenweed, it seems you were somewhat distracted and had other things on your mind this Fall :) Like where to have a hot shower....

I have a large (over many years) clump of Brunette and one of the green foliaged but most years I don't try sowing. I don't deadhead, however if frost doesn't get the stems before the seeds are ripe, the chickadees will beat me to the seeds :)

Ellie