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I really didn't wish to get into any kind of argument with anyone. I was only pointing out that the terms of use of Garden Web were being infringed ...." the Terms of Service and applicable copyright, trademark and other laws govern your use of such content. You may not post to the GardenWeb Network, copy, reproduce, retransmit, distribute, publish, commercially exploit or otherwise transfer any material subject to any Rights." The OP was posting photos which people clearly assumed were her own when they were not. In fact if Getty images spotted it there could be unpleasant repercussions. They trawl the web constantly for material they own and threaten people who use it without permission with legal action. It has happened to an acquaintance of mine who innocently used an image found via a Google image search. I don't believe that it is mean spirited to point that out.
As for Chelsea, I agree with every word Campanula wrote.
If this were an argument it would be about how one deals with other contributors to GW.
The mean-spirited part was not pointing out facts, it was the part of the summarization which included "but it is disingenuous and rather underhanded to put these posts here ---".
If I saw any evidence that the set of pictures was actually intended to deceive, I would likely have agreed.
Very nice, nhbabs.
One of the things about perennial gardening which strikes me most of all is the gardening potential for large, maybe rural, properties versus small urban ones.
Obviously, the two present some different challenges as well as some different opportunities.
nabs, those shots are simply fabulous. Personally I am partial to neutral color schemes with a spot of color here and there more so than a riot of color and flowers, thats why the O. grasses and silver plants are so appealing to me. Winter is a good time for that along the roadsides here, to me its prettier with various shades of white, grays, buff, rust and dark browns in the grass lands as opposed to a undefined sea of green. I like fall & winter best because all the various green colors separate and its definitely the only time of the year lawns are appealing with that open area of light cream color contrasting with evergreen plants.
Here is a blog I ran across the other night. I am 99% certain this garden would appeal to me more in fall and winter than spring or summer. I sorely wish I had the amount of space you have, thank you for posting those pictures. I love the berries and the soft colors. Heather is definitely a plant I would grow if I could, that is one of the best understated, neutral plants on the planet in my book, I'm more than a tad jealous of you luckiest of of dogs who can grow it.
Last winter I placed an order with Bluestone that I picked up at the nursery and learned that plants purchased at the nursery are discounted from the catalog price. So if you know what you want and are within driving distance to Bluestone it might be worth the trip. Their greenhouses are always neat and orderly and the staff is friendly and helpful. They do a great job.
Its a bad sign that in Texas Vitex agnus-castus is called 'Texas Lilac'. The sort of sends up a few red flags...
Here is an old thread about peony's.
Here is a link that might be useful: http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/peony/msg0315295822899.html?5
keep in mind.. zone info.. is basically .. the lowest cold temp ...
that does not really address how long its cold.. as when i spoke of cold dormancy ...
one trick... come spring .... drive around.. and see if you see lilacs around ... if you do.. one might suspect.. they will work ...
on GW ... you can come back to your own post ... to thk peeps ... no need for private email ... but you are welcome ...
you might also join a local garden club ... not only to learn what can and cant be grown ... but you might get a lot of free plants .... from new garden friends ....
ken
campanula-thanks for the advice. i have a small aesthetically not very pleasing cold frame. original thought was to replace with concrete blocks and sash. but so many windows. . . . . . .and pix of handsome sash window greenhouses on the internet. . . .sigh. but, yes the gh would have to be large enough to move around in COMFORTABLY.
If you are handy, then a half glazed GH is good, if not better than a complete glassed in one. You could have a 3 - 3.5 feet high block wall all round (at a nice height for a bench) and have the sash windows sitting on top, then roof it with corrugated polycarbonate. If you have some hard standing, you can possibly lay the blocks on top without requiring foundations (I use those concrete 18inx9inx4in blocks). For an 8x10 feet GH, the glazed area only needs to be around 10square metres of wall...and it looks as though there are probably enough windows to do this.Rather than freestanding, you could do something using an exterior wall, maybe. I do think it is an opportunity worth investigating.
zackey, did you dodge the bullet on that weird snow event last year then? My brother is a teacher in Canton GA which is close to Atlanta and they got hit with that snow mess last winter, he had to spend the night at the school with some stranded kids but it wasn't as bad as those people stuck in cars for hours on end.
Wayside gardens used to be really great. But they were bought by Park Seed and that was the end of customer service and quality for Wayside. They ship plants haphazardly and tiny plants in big quarts size pots and charge for quart size root balls. You can't get any one from customer service on the phone nor do they answer emails and the order takers can't help you solve a problem.
Read the many negative reviews Wayside has now over in Garden watchdog. Out of 805 reviews, they have 372 negative, 125 neutral and 308 positive. I'd bet most of those positives are pretty old. What really cracks me up is that Wayside always answers every negative review with a "we couldn't find your order from this information, so please contact us with your order number, and we'll make this right." When they posted that on my two negative reviews, I pointed out that I had included my order number and email in the review because I had read their previous responses, so why were they still having trouble contacting me.
Way, way on the other end of the spectrum, Santa Rosa, Annies Annuals, and Lazy S'S Farm, Plant Delight all provide great customer service, knowledgeable people if you call with questions, super well packed plants, and wide variety of plants that you won't find anywhere else. And Geraniaceae.com is the most incredible specialty nursery for hardy geraniums, erodiums and pelargonium.
Calistoga, you are correct. The grade of sand also relates to what you've said though. I can't find a literature citation for this, but I'd bet the finer the particles of sand, the higher the proportion required. Until you reach the point that you might as well just put down a layer of several inches of the sand. Which is still how golf courses are made in certain areas. That is why the current commercial practice for permanent structural enhancement has become to use very large particle additives, like pumice, turface, permatill, or the Japanese product called Isolite. (Which was used years ago by Davisson Golf on the National Mall in DC, to manage pedestrian traffic over grass fields. Now no longer imported) Any admixture of those is safe, without worrying about making matters worse. (BUT...my current theory is that in certain rare situations, if misapplied, even those could make matters worse for another reason. I'll get to that one of these days haha. Suffice it to say, it's not common but could happen) I do think they are a good idea for what _I_ am trying to do; and will continue to use them in certain areas.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is roto tilling brings up seeds that have lain long dormant to the surface where they germinate with gusto. It can also break up certain types roots into small sections, each section being able to grow new plants. It usually takes a few tilling sessions prudently followed with either manual or chemical weed eradication to clear the soil of undesirables. People who naturalize large areas such as a prairie or meadow restorations are advised against tilling for this reason. If tilled, its best to wait a season or two until the area is clear of weeds/grasses before planting.
Mexican Heather / Cuphea hyssopifolia is perennial here in 8b & warmer. Annual for you, Rouge. Picture taken this week - note leaves that have fallen as winter approaches - has been blooming since early summer. Attracts pollinators. Good, tough plant that blooms continuously all summer.
there is a new salix nursery in vt and they list a huge #. I esp love Salix Alba Sericea, a far superior silver leaf alternative to Eleagnus or weeping pears. We let our ~20 yr.old sericea get to above our house in the driveway, where it grows right up against the house's non-crawlspace addition. We started coppicing it 4 yrs ago: we get our tree guy (he needs a cherry picker for this) to cut the leader way down to where we want it to sprout and we have him chain saw the leader at an oblique angle such that you could only see the cut if you were able to stand BEHIND the tree. The thing never misses a beat; it sprouts vigorously and produces a fast canopy (of thin branches) about ~10' below where it had been . We do this every 2 yrs or so. We could cut it WAAAY back if we wanted because salix sprout new growth all over their trunk. The one drag about it is that it sucks up all the moisture at its base, but we are still able to grow our normal packed bed style very close to it.
We have another alba sericea that we keep coppiced down to ~ 6-8' because it is in a mixed perennials/shrubs border and we don't want shade there. Ditto the salix britsensis which has flaming coral new growth.
We also just got a YELLOW leaf salix! and are crossing our fingers to see PINK pussywillows on another new one. We had a Scarlet Curls that never lived up to its name and we finally, after 15 yrs, tossed it. It also had started getting these teeny shiny green black beetles that ate holes all over its leaves. The world of willows is GIGUNdous!
mindy
I had the nana. Lovely little shrub that grew way out of its space. I want to get more for a new bed I'm planning this Spring. They can grow to their hearts content then! Great idea to shear them!