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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

What kind of rootballs do they have? I don't use the top/visible growth as my guide for seedlings, but use how extensive the young root systems are.

    Bookmark     September 5, 2014 at 5:21PM
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phlowerpower(5)

I'm in zone 5 and perennials hardy to my zone or below, sown in July survive over winter for me very well. They are often only a couple of inches tall by the first frost.

Hope your seedling do well next year !

    Bookmark     September 5, 2014 at 7:29PM
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southerngardening24(7b)

Thanks for the responses! I will sow some now and if they are too small by the time my current container plants die out, I will purchase some. The pansies I purchased last fall bloomed through winter and spring so sown plants should have plenty of time if they decide to grow.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2014 at 4:04PM
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gringo(z8 VA)

I think it's best to use the 'baggy method' .Moisten a coffee filter & place seeds & all in the baggy, seed side up. They take about 8-10 days at about 70 degrees , with exposure to indirect sunlight near a window. Once rootlet is about 1/4 inch long, transplant using a toothpick into seed trays & avoid allowing the fragile seedlings to become too dry, don't yet expose to direct mid-day sun while tiny & avoid exposure to high temperatures. Use dilute fertilizer, to help speed up growth. I have read that seeds older than 9 months, generally won't germinate, or if so, quite poorly. I've bought from 2bseeds.com , with great results & they offer one of my favorites, the old fashioned ruffled & penciled, ''Super Chalon' variety.

    Bookmark     September 5, 2014 at 4:24PM
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gardenweed_z6a

According to the Missouri Botanical Garden, P. 'Laura' grows 3-4 ft. tall. See link below for more detailed plant/growing information. My tall phlox all took 3-4 years to get established. Most were planted in 2011; they were splendid this year.

Here is a link that might be useful: Phlox paniculata 'Laura'

    Bookmark     September 5, 2014 at 8:44AM
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sunnyborders(5b)

Perhaps there's some confusion between 'Laura' and 'Little Laura', latter is said to be 18 to 24 inches tall.

Have used both for a good few years. They are very hardy and long-lived here.

The other thing is that factors related to location in the garden may affect garden phlox height attained in any one year (soil fertility, sun, etc.).

Taking time to reach their potential height and (later) requiring division are both potential factors.

    Bookmark     September 5, 2014 at 9:34AM
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sunnyborders(5b)

Nice picture, Rouge.

Interesting comparison.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2014 at 10:15PM
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catkin(UDSA Zone 8)

That's a beauty, rouge! My Nora reverted years ago but I still like her bloom! I've never seen the other variegated forms!

    Bookmark     September 4, 2014 at 10:25PM
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echolane(SFBayMidPen)

I am loving this thread! Such pretty photos!

And I am ever so envious of those of you who have so many of those that I'd like to acquire. But I can't find them anywhere for sale. Forest Farm doesn't have any I want, Digging Dog is out of two that I do want, Bluestone has become ridiculously expensive and only has one listed I want anyway......

Hopefully there will be more sources next spring

    Bookmark     September 4, 2014 at 12:50AM
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sunnyborders(5b)

'Rotgold', today:

    Bookmark     September 4, 2014 at 10:11PM
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arlene_82 (zone 6 OH)

This appears to possibly be a type of Silphium/rosinweed.

This post was edited by Arlene_82 on Thu, Sep 4, 14 at 19:47

    Bookmark     September 4, 2014 at 7:45PM
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Posted by mnwsgal 4 MN(4) August 23, 2014
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Bobbie, love the combinations in your beds and look at those tomatoes, looks like you had a good year. We had tomatoes and cucs coming out our ears this year, considering the year we've had weatherwise, leaves me scratching my head on how come they did so well when other things didn't LOL.

tak2w, great pics, looks like you have quite a few beauties in your garden.

Annette

    Bookmark     September 4, 2014 at 12:45PM
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mnwsgal 4 MN(4)

Thanks, Annette. We also have had a great year for tomatoes and cucumbers and beans. Too many at this point!

Thanks, tak2w, looked up the Chaste Tree. Very pretty tree but not hardy here. Probably a red luna hibisicus as they are very commonly sold.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2014 at 1:38PM
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flowergirl70ks

Around here it's known as perennial dahlia. I hack out at least half every year, and always have twice as much as I want. Been blooming for at least a month and still going strong.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2014 at 10:40AM
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rouge21_gw(5)

ladygladys until about mid July of this year it had not been readily available but now I see it for sale all over.

    Bookmark     September 4, 2014 at 12:33PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Any chance you could post a picture of yours thyme2dig?

Here are some of the "flowers" showing on mine right now.

    Bookmark     September 3, 2014 at 5:36PM
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arbo_retum(z5 ,WinchstrMA)

well rouge, it looks like my style of planting is what you might want for your aralia to stay small, because mine has survived but def NOT become big. I have it in open shade (no direct sun) and growing up through a ground cover of yellow and green euonymus. yours is robust for sure. i alrdy grow quite a few yellow leaved woodies, but we will be picking up many more this month from Broken Arrow. The aralia sun king reminds me a little of the yellow leaved philadelphus, though the mock orange has smaller leaves.

    Bookmark     September 3, 2014 at 10:59PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Great picture 'ech'!

I had been meaning to put in a couple of "Little Henrys" as senior takes up so much room.

Might you post a photo showing a complete "Little Henry" in full bloom?

    Bookmark     August 24, 2013 at 8:09PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

UPDATE:

This is the same plant from last year. It has splayed out completely from the center with almost all stems horizontal. I was thinking of replacing it with something more upright like "Ashai" Sunflower but with such unique blooms and the plant in a very wild area of the garden, we have decided to let things lie ;).

    Bookmark     September 3, 2014 at 5:32PM
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debbiecz3(z3MB)

I've had some damage to my Solomon Seal that looks similar that was caused by the Lily beetle. Another pest to consider.

    Bookmark     September 3, 2014 at 11:20AM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

I have it too, but not throughout the entire plant. I would say the bottom 1/3 of the plants are most affected. It's been wet here this year, so I vote slug damage.

Kevin

    Bookmark     September 3, 2014 at 2:28PM
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arbo_retum(z5 ,WinchstrMA)

ryse, this is a perfect example of how helpful it would be to include your general or specific location- in your moniker. Z.5 can vary greatly depending where it is. just a suggestion. Neat plant!

    Bookmark     September 2, 2014 at 5:31PM
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ryseryse_2004

Northwest IL --- 30 miles east of the Mississippi.

    Bookmark     September 3, 2014 at 9:02AM
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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

It looks healthy, but only flowers in early spring.

Wait and see....otherwise perhaps you're too far south and not enough chilling for it.

    Bookmark     September 2, 2014 at 5:10PM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

It has had a lot of disruption. I'd just leave it in peace for a bit. It looks very healthy. It will probably flower next year. Insufficient chilling won't be the problem in London.

    Bookmark     September 2, 2014 at 5:32PM
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arbo_retum(z5 ,WinchstrMA)

eupatorium is one of my fav plants. love the dusty mauve color that goes so well to balance all our boldly colored yellow, and blue, conifers and woodies. i even grow Little Jo at the front edge of one mixed border- just for some height variety, next to a red dissected J maple and a daphne carol mackie. Only 2 beds where i have it- have moist soil. Maybe that's why ours do NOT seed around (boy i wish they would.) I have a pretty white and green variegated eupatorium but it hasn't flowered yet, and it is only 2.5'H.

I will never forget seeing Gateway in a PNW garden where it was 10-12'H!! I had to ask 'what's that?'; it so fooled me!!
(That's often the case w/ plants in the PNW.It's all due to their secret laboratories where they breed their plants with Wilt Chamberlain DNA.)

    Bookmark     September 2, 2014 at 5:24PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

Mnwsgal, be sure you eat your Wheaties and do a bit of pumping iron before taking on that clump reduction project. Mine was hard work!

    Bookmark     September 2, 2014 at 5:30PM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

The original poster's sundrops look like Oenothera fruticosa. I have a couple patches of it which I transplanted from my father's garden years ago, so it has sentimental value for me too.

I generally cut it back after flowering. The new basal foliage rosettes are not unattractive.

If you're looking for ugly - there's an Oenothera I grow that towers to nearly 5 feet in height, decorative during its long blooming season (the flowers open in time-lapse fashion in the evening, which is fun to watch), but an eyesore while the seed is ripening. I like to have some resow, so I put up with the derelict appearance until the seeds are ripe.

    Bookmark     September 2, 2014 at 4:01PM
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dotblossoms

Thanks so much everyone! It sounds like the mistake I'm making is not cutting them back.

I've decided to hang on to them for another season or two and see what happens. I'll move them back to the sunny side of the garden soon.

    Bookmark     September 2, 2014 at 5:01PM
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