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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

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ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 6:27PM
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lilsprout

I have researched these having 2 myself (overwintered them). I needed to repot mine as they did not do well last year. They like humus/manure I found out, and like to be root bound.

If you are ok with the pot they are in then just leave them. If not then just carefully repot without disturbing the roots.

Mine have really taken off with the new soil and are now starting to bloom :)

Love this plant!!!

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 1:26PM
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boothbay(7)

Well, when i got mine they came in 2 1/2" pots and was instructed to move them into a slightly larger pot , 4". I did so, and they were doing nicely, but it seemed that they will wilt rather quickly, so i moved them up to what is there recent 5"-6" hanging pots. They have blooms, but they do not seem to make any new growth. They are getting 5-6 hours of sun and I only water when they show stress out ( wilt )....so now with the Summer coming to an end, and they will be brought in to a south window here in the northeast, when, and if at all can I expect new growth?. I doubt if they would make them indoors.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 4:40PM
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debbiecz3(z3MB)

Interesting; I wonder how long it maintains its chartreuse foliage? I'm a real sucker for that colour that lights up the shade. There is an Astilbe "Colour Flash " that comes in burgundy and lime varieties that I have been considering. I also love burgundy foliage.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 3:46PM
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bellarosa(z5/IL)

beautiful pics! I love the thalictrum, splendide. i've never heard of that. so pretty. thanks for sharing.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 1:39PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Noticed this pair this morning:

Little Goldstar too much covering a blue Balloon flower.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 3:22PM
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dinah9999(6a)

Thank you so much mnwsgal! That was what I was hoping to hear. :-)

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 12:10PM
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grandmamaloy(7)

gardengirl-geum tend to be slow starters. Mrs. Bradshaw and Lady Stratheden are available to buy as seeds. From what I've read, though, volunteer seedlings from hybrid versions are pretty rare. They do multiply though and will look best if divided every three to four years. I LOVE the colors you can get in these!

Here is a link that might be useful: Some pretty geums

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 2:50PM
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woodyoak zone 5 Canada(5b)

Not along the path but parallel to it but 4-6' into the bed.. If I remember right, clematises grew on it but now they've moved them to the 'trees' you can see in the pictures I posted in the Clematis Forum. I wonder if maybe they're going to remove the lattice eventually - unless there are still clematises on it (I didn't look vary closely at it....)

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 10:40AM
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bellarosa(z5/IL)

i wish i could see your pictures. nothing is coming up. can you repost?

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 1:27PM
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greylady_gardener(6b)

felisa, how long have you had your miss manners? My first year with them (last year) they grew from seed and flowered....not a huge display, but flowered nicely for a first year. I transplanted them to their permanent spots late summer and this year they came up and looked so healthy and the flower display was even more lovely than last.
Do you think that maybe they need to establish in one spot for a year or so to be their best? I hope you get to see them at their best. I am very happy with them.

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 5:53PM
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felisar (z5)

3 years. Long enough to be established.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 12:03PM
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gardenweed_z6a

Beautiful!!

My seed-grown, winter sown hardy hibiscus are bursting into bloom at the moment. I spotted them today and am thrilled to see dozens of buds on the plants, ensuring a spectacular show over the course of the next week or two. For accent/contrast, blue balloon flowers and white gaura are blooming in front of them.

Sorry no pics. Lost my Photoshop app a few years ago and photo hosting site not long after that.

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 9:19PM
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woodyoak zone 5 Canada(5b)

kato - yeah, sometimes hibiscuses can 'stick out'. I think I sort of solved that problem by accident :-) I tend to plant things as part of a bigger picture - i.e. I always consider what other plants a particular plant will be partnered with - the individual is always part of a group; the color scheme of the area it will be added to; the relative size of the plant and the companion plants; and all the usual considerations of soil, light and moisture. There are a lot of hibiscuses in the front garden now and they are a key part of the August garden display. They are very showy but they also play well with the other things in bloom at this time of year in the pink/white/blue color ranges. I think hibiscuses tend to 'stick out' when they are grown as a specimen plant and/or are pink ones paired with golds. To pair with golds/orange/rusty red, I think (hope!) the hibiscuses with dark foliage and dark red flowers would work best - I will find out if that works when the 'Midnight Marvel' in my 'hot' bed blooms (soon, I hope!)

I'd love to see pictures of how other people blend in hardy hibiscuses into the garden....

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 11:03AM
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arlene_82 (zone 6 OH)

I really put my butterfly bush in the worst spot last fall both in terms of space and sun. Not sure what I was thinking, but I just couldn't stand to look at it there any longer which is why I moved it at probably the worst possible time. I thought about cutting off the buds to help it re-establish, but couldn't bring myself to. It did bloom, but they were very short-lived flowers. Anyway, I'm not concerned about it surviving the winter at this point (those things are tough). If things stay cool and wet from here on out I see no reason to wait until fall to move things around (your rose being the possible exception).

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 9:48AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Fingers crossed for you with your butterfly bush. :-)

I find myself ending up sometimes adding something wherever I can when I run out of time, knowing I am going to have to move them.

I was also on the fence about where I was planting tomatoes this year. My only full sun is in the front where everything else that needs full sun has to go. So do I want roses and butterfly bushes or tomatoes? [g]

This year I put in one tomato out front and it outproduced those grown in the back that were in 6-7hrs of sun by enough that I finally decided I need to put more tomato plants out there next year. And since no one has bothered the tomatoes out front this year, I may as well try a few more. So everything has to move around again. :-)

    Bookmark     August 20, 2014 at 10:55AM
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bogturtle(SE NJ 7a)

Beautiful photos. No success with any except for one that is totally wonderful for me. Geum boresii or 'King Boris' was introduced here over 20 years ago. All the other wonderful sorts never get to the next year. And its foliage is evergreen. Cannot say if the others are from my experience and would have to look that info. up.

    Bookmark     November 14, 2013 at 6:48PM
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dinah9999(6a)

I planted a Mrs. Bradshaw Geum from a nursery this spring. It was very slow-growing, although it did reach 12" tall. It has never bloomed which is hugely disappointing. Is this normal for the first year? It is planted in full sun with good, well-drained soil. Any tips or information would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 11:39PM
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southerngardening24(7b)

I am having the same issue with my speedwells. The pink one isn't as bad as the others. I am giving them another year and if the problem persists they will go to the compost pile.

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 9:06PM
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lilsprout

My salvia do the same thing, and shortly after the basal foliage appears. I cut all the ugly stuff off, and the basal foliage takes over growing lush and green!

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 9:48PM
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ninamarie(4Ont.)

I've always wondered how different this variety is from the species, which abounds in our forest. Can anyone compare?

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 12:55PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

twrosz, thanks again for the additional pictures. It appears from your last post that this Heliopsis needs some support to stay upright?

(I think I will remove "Henry Eilers" and put an Asahi in its place).

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 9:27AM
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twrosz

Rouge, the stems on 'Asahi' are strong and do not require support, though the plant is of rather open airy habit and placing the tomato cage upon it made for a more concentrated color effect, though it's currently looking just a bit up"tight", lol ... I'm soon gonna loosen its binding.

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 9:46AM
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linaria_gw

Most cultivars don't grow true from seed and return to some more simple or original version

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 12:31AM
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rouge21_gw(5)

I have had HE for a few seasons. The previous 2 it had done well but this season with individual stems about 4 feet tall they are flopped. This hadn't been the case previously. And the only thing different this year is the cooler temps and significant rain fall.

(I notice that there is also a "Little Henry Eilers" available this year).

    Bookmark     August 19, 2014 at 9:23AM
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Posted by davids10 z7a nv. August 18, 2014
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pitimpinai(z6 Chicago)

"I love how you have the two different rudbeckias on either side."

Ruth, those are Echinacea. Your flowers are beautiful too. My hibiscus/Malva has not bloomed yet.

    Bookmark     August 18, 2014 at 9:14PM
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Ruth_MI(z5MI)

pitimpinai, Yes, sorry, I know that but was also posting on the rudbeckia thread and had a brain lapse. A big one. :-) Thanks for clarifying though!

    Bookmark     August 18, 2014 at 9:48PM
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