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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

The OP's plant does look like Erigeron karvinskianus in flower and foliage but the ones in my garden and which self seed in walls all around here are not as upright. The stems are laxer and thinner and the whole plant is altogether shorter and less robust-looking.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 5:12AM
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paul_(z5 MI)

Wow! Never seen a Buddleja grow like that!

    Bookmark     August 3, 2014 at 11:52AM
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boday

My "Little Goldstar" will be in bloom by next week. A very good plant in my experience (as compared to the ubiquitous Goldstrum).
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I finally have decided enough waffling. Both the Monarda and Phlox are in bloom at this time, except the Phlox is supposed to go till fall. Therefore the trial with three plants.

Agreed on the 'Goldstar'. Mine is just into the first bloom. Waiting on things to perk up before pictures. Might be something to see later.

    Bookmark     July 17, 2014 at 6:11PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

My LGS is now in full bloom...over a week behind last year (2 plants planted side by side).

How is yours looking boday?

    Bookmark     August 3, 2014 at 10:10AM
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aseedisapromise(zone 5 SD)

I guess no one knows. Maybe you should try the "Name That Plant" forum.

    Bookmark     August 3, 2014 at 10:06AM
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whaas_5a(5A SE WI)

Nice, that would be perfect with a spilled wine weigela or a dwarf blue spruce.

I looked it up as someone else suggested the name and I found it was short lived and they called it a biennial.

How has it done for you life wise?

Reminds me a little of dianthus but I can't keep this damn genus alive. I have very well drained soil too where pines thrive.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 2:16PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

If not deadheaded, Lychnis coronaria self-seeds everywhere, including the lawn, but it is relatively easy to pull. It gets a bit messy looking as the flowering stems age and accumulate old blossom sites. It likes full sun and won't grow in the shade of other plants IME. It is a true biennial and I have seen it in screaming magenta (the normal form), white, and blush pink. Nice frosted rosette of leaves the first year.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 8:05PM
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Cousincinderella

My brother has a black lab mix female, and to date she has killed 38 documented woodchucks!! (3-4 years) We are being troubled with a woodchuck in our garden. I called and asked to borrow his dog and he gave me a live trap!! He said he may not get his dog back from me.. :) So we are trying apple, carrot and broccoli in the trap tonight.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 7:11PM
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Cousincinderella

My brother has a black lab mix female, and to date she has killed 38 documented woodchucks!! (3-4 years) We are being troubled with a woodchuck in our garden. I called and asked to borrow his dog and he gave me a live trap!! He said he may not get his dog back from me.. :) So we are trying apple, carrot and broccoli in the trap tonight.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 7:12PM
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TexasRanger10(7)

Its kind of hard to see but it looks like Leucophyllum frutescens aka Texas Sage, Cenizo, Texas Silverleaf. It blooms when its going to rain and the humidity rises so its also called Barometer Bush. There are several different types, that one looks like the kind with greener leaves called 'Green Cloud' and I'm guessing that is another larger variety behind it with the more typical silver leaves.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 2:39PM
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leeann123

Oh, thank you. Yes, that is definitely a sage behind it.

I will get a better image next time. Here it is three weeks later.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 3:35PM
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Nevermore44 - 6a

Green go... That would just be heavy mite damage one yours. Signs being the distorted cones. Remove them as you see them (or if the flower is decent enough... Cut it and bring it inside). There are plenty of other mite issues on coneflowers posted here as well.

    Bookmark     July 26, 2014 at 11:12PM
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gringo(z8 VA)

My 'Kims Red Knee High' did the exact same thing & it was growing so well, until that happened. No petals & the plant has deteriorated since then.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 2:41PM
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gringo(z8 VA)

I seem to have found out , I have the very same problem with mine. Rather disappointing, as it took so long, either just to get it to grow, or get the correctly named cultivar. Now that I have seen it "in flower", in person & view yours, I suspect it is an inherent problem with this particular cv.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 2:10PM
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sunnyborders(5b)

Interesting.

So "the first garden phlox with a double flower" is a dud?

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 2:35PM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

I had to google the name you used as I'd never heard it before. Sanguisorba obtusa is a handsome plant that is most certainly not invasive.

    Bookmark     August 2, 2014 at 5:56AM
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greenhavenrdgarden

The deer here eat my liriope. In the summer, winter. Doesn't matter. If they see it, they eat it :-(
I thought it was deer proof when I planted them.

    Bookmark     July 31, 2014 at 5:34PM
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monarda_gw

They pulled the one I planted for my friend on Long Island up by the roots and ate it. They eat everything out there.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 10:12PM
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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23 USDA 9)

So pretty. It isn't grown in my area of the country, unfortunately or fortunately.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 1:31PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

It CAN'T grow in my area of the country.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 1:39PM
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sunnyborders(5b)

Have two in our garden, which have been there for more than five years.

Today, they've already started flowering and tallest stem on one is 38 inches (number of stems been reduced this year) and on the other 46 inches (number of stems not been reduced this year).

As someone posted, much of this is likely variability associated with growing from seed stains. Then there's factors such as when the plants were planted.

Find balloon flowers to be one of the best perennials for mixed perennial gardening here, for reasons such as hardiness, compactness (at ground level. I do stake them) and longevity.

Personally, I like the blue ones best. Can get a better show of pink and white flower colour from some other well behaved summer perennials. As said, like the double 'Hakone Blue' best.

Have moved a few, but, as a generalization, the deeper rooted perennials (e.g. balloon flowers) are the ones that don't like being moved.

Personally, I like varying heights in mixed perennial beds. For me, the idea of having only dwarf and other short cultivars brings bedded annuals to mind.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 11:56AM
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luckyladyslipper(MA 5b-6a)

Thanks, Sunny. I'll keep them toward the back then. I was about to move them in front of a smallish (22") daylily, 'Fond Hope.' I'll definitely put Fond Hope in front!

How wide do yours get? I may need to separate them more than the tag said.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 12:12PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

if you are reusing the same bulbs/corms .... and it sounds like you are ...

what is your feeding regimen???

are they in mother earth.. or potted???

if potted.. are you reusing the media???

are they always planted in the same spot ....

we need more info.. besides they are small ...

ken

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 12:08PM
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HappilymarriedinNH

WOW! Thank you to all for the fantastic ideas! I definitely will start looking into some of these options.

Another question: should these be planted this fall, or should I wait until next spring?

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 8:54AM
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gardenweed_z6a

Spring and fall are generally considered the best times to plant as opposed to June/July/August when temperatures are highest. Although I will plant in Spring, I prefer fall planting because the plants will gradually go dormant with cooling temperatures which allows their root systems to mature rather than hot summer months when they must strive to support top growth and/or blooming.

Some plants will overwinter in pots but it can be risky so rather than lose them to a deep freeze, it's best to set them in the ground, even if you only dig a trench and set the pots in it for the winter until your garden bed is ready for you to plant them.

Do I have plants in pots that overwinter? Yes, lots of them on my east/west facing breezeway, some up against the house foundation, some not. It's sort of a game of Russian roulette however: I'm always surprised when some come through the winter as if they were hardy to Z3 and others don't.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 11:00AM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

-greenthumb, I think it might green out a good deal in that little of sun. Mine always gets lime-y in the summer, when all the other plants around it have grown up around it and shade it more.
CMK

    Bookmark     October 15, 2013 at 2:15PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

UPDATE:

On a whim, I picked up an Aurea just yesterday. And now I read this thread. (Sometimes still the cart before the horse).

I am just wondering how much shade it can take.

    Bookmark     August 1, 2014 at 8:19AM
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