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Angelina is definitely vigorous! But so easy to pull so not a big deal imo.

Sedum cauticola 'Lidakense' (nice foliage and flower colour)
Sedum sieboldii 'Mediovariegatum' (nice bright red fall foliage colour in addition to the pink flower.)
Sedum spurium 'Tricolor'
I also use 'Angelina' under some conifers. If they get enough light, they can look almost 'orange yellow' in late spring.

I own "Caramel" and the leaves are definitely not that crinkled. Here's a picture of mine:

Yeah their not glossy either but the colors match!

I probably just have to order up a few. I stopped at the nursery and he said he doesn't have it and couldn't remember if he had it but could order it, lol.

In partial shade/dappled shade for me, the nasty, awful, greedy rabbits have not touched:

Ferns
Hellebores
Geranium macrorrhizum and hybrids
Geranium maculatum
Stylophorum diphyllum
Pycnanthemum muticum (in the sunnier areas)
Thalictrum
Columbines

Plants that they love to target:

Phlox stolonifera
Phlox divaricata
Aster cordata (but not Aster divaricata)
Geranium phaeum

Keep in mind however that if hungry enough, rabbits will eat and destroy ANYTHING, regardless of what books have to say. Even if it is something supposedly lethal.

Marthastoo, what did you use as bait in you havahart trap? We tried a trap too, but have caught nothing. The rabbits are everywhere and seem to be laughing at our efforts while they continue to eat the garden plants, especially anything new.

Here is the third "Ieniemienie" flowering nicely and still my "Hot Lips" has yet to flower (although all my chelones are looking very healthy). So as a preliminary evaluation of "Ieniemienie" it does appear to bloom much sooner than other chelones and does stay quite short as advertised ie 12" tops.

UPDATE

My 3 "Ieniemienie" plants have grown lots in this their second season in our garden with the largest plant now 2 feet high and 32" across! (So definitely shorter than a regular Chelone but just as large in width)

And again this cultivar will bloom well before my favourite Chelone "Hotlips" as today I see the pink of flowers soon to come.

Does anyone else have this more compact form?

The yellow one is St. John's Wort
St. John's Wort

But to determine which species of Hypericum (St John's Wort) we need a picture of some leaves, stems and full plant. Or try is over on Name That Plant for a more specific id.

Thank you for the suggestion, I will consider it. The page you linked mentions the leaf rot for the species, and I think my problem is that they are not truly in full sun (just in one of the sunniest spots I have), which exacerbates the problem.

I have it's twin.

As an experiment, you might try planting some of the bits and bobs you pull up when cleaning, as an edging plant in a larger mixed planting pot. That's what I did a few years ago, and after the first year of not looking so great, mine has turned back into the beautiful plant I remember when I purchased it many, many years ago.

It could be many reasons mine has transformed, but I think the main thing it likes is the light potting mix, compared to actual soil that compacts over time. It's on the edge of a planted wheelbarrow, a pretty well drained spot compared to normal conditions here. A spot I previously had trouble with long term plantings due to getting too dry year round.

Worth a try.

This post was edited by plaidbird on Thu, Jul 24, 14 at 22:34

When mine flop (and they always do) I just cut them all back to about a foot. Usually they re-bloom.

Here's what I do with mine, get an appropriate length of rebar and a length of wire suitable to encircle your clump of daisies, twist the middle of the wire around the rebar at the right height. Now put a hook in each end of the wire, gather up the daisies and bend the wire around the clump and hook the ends together. You'll never see the wire. I do this with a lot of my perennial that flop. In fact I've started staking them this way before they flop. With my tall Michaelmas daisies I stake and wire when quite low only the loops around the rebar are loose held in place with a clothespin, this way I can slip the wire up as they grow, no flopping. A cheap and easy fix ;)

Annette.

UPDATE

After getting no PG babies last year...too aggressive weeding maybe, it seems I will have some not as nice mutation of this cultivar this season. (I wont get much of any of these plants as the deer seem to lop off the top every couple of weeks).

What about you Kevin and others....any sign of this years PG?

The one plant that survived the winter (pictured above your post) is blooming right now.

The color is nice IMO, but I'm not sure if I'm going to keep it next year if it survives the winter again. At over 5 feet tall, it really does take up a lot of room in my small garden. I do like it though, so I'll I have to use the winter to think about it.

Another not-so-great thing about this plant is it really seems to attract some kind of chewing insect. Up close, almost all the flowers have been chewed by something. I don't remember my regular gold triloba having that problem.

And yes, I do have quite a few seedlings which of course won't bloom this year. Not sure what I'm going to do with them.

Kevin

Thanks for all the ideas, folks! Keep 'em coming!

forgot to mention Joe Pye weed..It gets very tall and yes it can take shade.