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Thank you for the suggestion, I will consider it. The page you linked mentions the leaf rot for the species, and I think my problem is that they are not truly in full sun (just in one of the sunniest spots I have), which exacerbates the problem.

I have it's twin.

As an experiment, you might try planting some of the bits and bobs you pull up when cleaning, as an edging plant in a larger mixed planting pot. That's what I did a few years ago, and after the first year of not looking so great, mine has turned back into the beautiful plant I remember when I purchased it many, many years ago.

It could be many reasons mine has transformed, but I think the main thing it likes is the light potting mix, compared to actual soil that compacts over time. It's on the edge of a planted wheelbarrow, a pretty well drained spot compared to normal conditions here. A spot I previously had trouble with long term plantings due to getting too dry year round.

Worth a try.

This post was edited by plaidbird on Thu, Jul 24, 14 at 22:34

When mine flop (and they always do) I just cut them all back to about a foot. Usually they re-bloom.

Here's what I do with mine, get an appropriate length of rebar and a length of wire suitable to encircle your clump of daisies, twist the middle of the wire around the rebar at the right height. Now put a hook in each end of the wire, gather up the daisies and bend the wire around the clump and hook the ends together. You'll never see the wire. I do this with a lot of my perennial that flop. In fact I've started staking them this way before they flop. With my tall Michaelmas daisies I stake and wire when quite low only the loops around the rebar are loose held in place with a clothespin, this way I can slip the wire up as they grow, no flopping. A cheap and easy fix ;)

Annette.

UPDATE

After getting no PG babies last year...too aggressive weeding maybe, it seems I will have some not as nice mutation of this cultivar this season. (I wont get much of any of these plants as the deer seem to lop off the top every couple of weeks).

What about you Kevin and others....any sign of this years PG?

The one plant that survived the winter (pictured above your post) is blooming right now.

The color is nice IMO, but I'm not sure if I'm going to keep it next year if it survives the winter again. At over 5 feet tall, it really does take up a lot of room in my small garden. I do like it though, so I'll I have to use the winter to think about it.

Another not-so-great thing about this plant is it really seems to attract some kind of chewing insect. Up close, almost all the flowers have been chewed by something. I don't remember my regular gold triloba having that problem.

And yes, I do have quite a few seedlings which of course won't bloom this year. Not sure what I'm going to do with them.

Kevin

Thanks for all the ideas, folks! Keep 'em coming!

forgot to mention Joe Pye weed..It gets very tall and yes it can take shade.

If I'd had the option of putting it directly into its new site and not containerizing it, I would have preferred that. I didn't mean to make it sound as though moving it into a pot was something you should do too....

We were selling the house, and new beds overrun with ivy, blackberry, false lily of the valley, volunteer laurel, alder ;)

OT - that glaucidium remains my most expensive perennial purchase ever, enough so, I remember the price and I've had it more than 10 years now.

Well, I don't HAVE to move it, so I think maybe I will remove things around it. Problem is, right next to it are my PRIZE yellow ladys slippers. Oh well>>>

Rouge you've given me an idea :). This yellow loosestrife has crawled under the fence from my neighbour's garden. It's right on the edge of a gravel path between two stored blue water barrels. I've left it because I like the splash of colour, and it hides that bit of fence. I usually cut it back right after flowering but after seeing yours with the clematis... I have a C. durandii I have to move later on, the wheels are turning LOL.

Annette

Mmm, I have just returned from my trip to Scotland clutching a couple of liberated lysimachia ciliata (Fireworks?). I have had neither the space not the inclination for these slightly oafish plants....but having (a lot) of space (and no money) has trumped all previous (sensible) thoughts in favour of the easy, enthusiastic and tough commoners which are reasonably profligate with seeds without committing some environmental crime by planting a notorious thug. In other words, foxgloves, hesperis and the like. I also have a couple of mimulus (guttatus, I think) and astilbes (but suspect the woods are a tad too dry for these....but as freebies, we must try...
I would also be inclined to grow goldenrod (lysimachia aureum) and have got seeds for lysimachia ephemerum.

Too many,⦠not making headway. My compulsive tendencies are taking over, I PIG 10 pots yesterday . but there are so many more waiting for the fall temperatures. PIGGIN now is ill advised but the cool weather and rains have me planting. I will probably regret it. I bought some trees small and have them potted up to get a root system on them before I PIG. I have some large hesperaloe funifera var chiangi that have been very patient critters. They have been waiting two years for me to get my act together. I need dump trucks of dirt for this one spot. I have a bare root 3' agave lophantha that has been lying shriveling in the sun waiting for its dirt. IT did just appeared unasked for and they could go bare root for a year and still plump up. It is hard to kill them.

I know - far from making headway (no PIGIIN here either), the pots are breeding or summat (And I foolishly failed to desist from sowing stuff either). Have just been away for 5 whole days (had to threaten youngest with beating if he failed with the hose) but, in truth, I would not have been that dismayed if a selective culling round had thinned the herd. But no - he is obviously still under the maternal thumb because all is green and (more or less) thriving (surviving).
Far, far worse....the offspring have also taken a meek tentative suggestion (by Mr Campanula in a (drunken) moment of weakness) to have a wee social....and ran amok.....so we are now expecting a 3 day weekender in the woods with music and stuff......

I ended up purchasing Tricyrtis hirta 'Tojen' at a local nursery. Looking forward to seeing the blooms in a month or so.

I have both 'Tojen' and 'Gilt Edge'. They are in part shade and get no hot afternoon sun. Soil is good and holds moisture well but is well drained. Tojen has been in the ground for about 4 growing seasons and has formed a substantial clump about 2 feet across and 2 feet high. Gildt Edge I just planted this year so it is much smaller. I love the foliage on these plants and the unique flowers. The fact that tricyrtis blooms in August is also a big plus since this is a slow time in the garden. I have them planted next to a path since the blooms are small (around 1" across) and need to be observed up close.