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When mine flop (and they always do) I just cut them all back to about a foot. Usually they re-bloom.

Here's what I do with mine, get an appropriate length of rebar and a length of wire suitable to encircle your clump of daisies, twist the middle of the wire around the rebar at the right height. Now put a hook in each end of the wire, gather up the daisies and bend the wire around the clump and hook the ends together. You'll never see the wire. I do this with a lot of my perennial that flop. In fact I've started staking them this way before they flop. With my tall Michaelmas daisies I stake and wire when quite low only the loops around the rebar are loose held in place with a clothespin, this way I can slip the wire up as they grow, no flopping. A cheap and easy fix ;)

Annette.

UPDATE

After getting no PG babies last year...too aggressive weeding maybe, it seems I will have some not as nice mutation of this cultivar this season. (I wont get much of any of these plants as the deer seem to lop off the top every couple of weeks).

What about you Kevin and others....any sign of this years PG?

The one plant that survived the winter (pictured above your post) is blooming right now.

The color is nice IMO, but I'm not sure if I'm going to keep it next year if it survives the winter again. At over 5 feet tall, it really does take up a lot of room in my small garden. I do like it though, so I'll I have to use the winter to think about it.

Another not-so-great thing about this plant is it really seems to attract some kind of chewing insect. Up close, almost all the flowers have been chewed by something. I don't remember my regular gold triloba having that problem.

And yes, I do have quite a few seedlings which of course won't bloom this year. Not sure what I'm going to do with them.

Kevin

Thanks for all the ideas, folks! Keep 'em coming!

forgot to mention Joe Pye weed..It gets very tall and yes it can take shade.

If I'd had the option of putting it directly into its new site and not containerizing it, I would have preferred that. I didn't mean to make it sound as though moving it into a pot was something you should do too....

We were selling the house, and new beds overrun with ivy, blackberry, false lily of the valley, volunteer laurel, alder ;)

OT - that glaucidium remains my most expensive perennial purchase ever, enough so, I remember the price and I've had it more than 10 years now.

Well, I don't HAVE to move it, so I think maybe I will remove things around it. Problem is, right next to it are my PRIZE yellow ladys slippers. Oh well>>>

Rouge you've given me an idea :). This yellow loosestrife has crawled under the fence from my neighbour's garden. It's right on the edge of a gravel path between two stored blue water barrels. I've left it because I like the splash of colour, and it hides that bit of fence. I usually cut it back right after flowering but after seeing yours with the clematis... I have a C. durandii I have to move later on, the wheels are turning LOL.

Annette

Mmm, I have just returned from my trip to Scotland clutching a couple of liberated lysimachia ciliata (Fireworks?). I have had neither the space not the inclination for these slightly oafish plants....but having (a lot) of space (and no money) has trumped all previous (sensible) thoughts in favour of the easy, enthusiastic and tough commoners which are reasonably profligate with seeds without committing some environmental crime by planting a notorious thug. In other words, foxgloves, hesperis and the like. I also have a couple of mimulus (guttatus, I think) and astilbes (but suspect the woods are a tad too dry for these....but as freebies, we must try...
I would also be inclined to grow goldenrod (lysimachia aureum) and have got seeds for lysimachia ephemerum.

Too many,⦠not making headway. My compulsive tendencies are taking over, I PIG 10 pots yesterday . but there are so many more waiting for the fall temperatures. PIGGIN now is ill advised but the cool weather and rains have me planting. I will probably regret it. I bought some trees small and have them potted up to get a root system on them before I PIG. I have some large hesperaloe funifera var chiangi that have been very patient critters. They have been waiting two years for me to get my act together. I need dump trucks of dirt for this one spot. I have a bare root 3' agave lophantha that has been lying shriveling in the sun waiting for its dirt. IT did just appeared unasked for and they could go bare root for a year and still plump up. It is hard to kill them.

I know - far from making headway (no PIGIIN here either), the pots are breeding or summat (And I foolishly failed to desist from sowing stuff either). Have just been away for 5 whole days (had to threaten youngest with beating if he failed with the hose) but, in truth, I would not have been that dismayed if a selective culling round had thinned the herd. But no - he is obviously still under the maternal thumb because all is green and (more or less) thriving (surviving).
Far, far worse....the offspring have also taken a meek tentative suggestion (by Mr Campanula in a (drunken) moment of weakness) to have a wee social....and ran amok.....so we are now expecting a 3 day weekender in the woods with music and stuff......

I ended up purchasing Tricyrtis hirta 'Tojen' at a local nursery. Looking forward to seeing the blooms in a month or so.

I have both 'Tojen' and 'Gilt Edge'. They are in part shade and get no hot afternoon sun. Soil is good and holds moisture well but is well drained. Tojen has been in the ground for about 4 growing seasons and has formed a substantial clump about 2 feet across and 2 feet high. Gildt Edge I just planted this year so it is much smaller. I love the foliage on these plants and the unique flowers. The fact that tricyrtis blooms in August is also a big plus since this is a slow time in the garden. I have them planted next to a path since the blooms are small (around 1" across) and need to be observed up close.

So far this year we haven't had much heat and we've had plenty of rain, so my Astilbes look great. They only died back the first year (2 years ago) during the heat wave. I don't remember if we had a heat wave last year, but they didn't die back then. I wish the flowers lasted longer, but they are nice for that short period of time. My Visions in Red has an awesome color and makes my neighbor a bit jealous.

I had moved my Astilbes in the spring and under estimated how big they would grow, so next spring I will move them again. One is bigger than the other and growing over my new garden path. I haven't decided yet if I want to divide them -- they are still young and not too big yet. Plus I am running out of room for new plants because of my love for hydrangeas.

Mine did this during hot spells each year for the first two or three years I had them, but now that they are well established, they don't do it anymore (as long as I keep them watered).

My ND neighbor has a large patch of it which is, thankfully, bordered on one side by driveway pavement, one side by granite patio & one side by landscape timbers. I'm grateful that so far it hasn't shown its head in my garden in just under 10 years.

I have it several places--most of them dry shade. Our favorite spot is by the mailbox which is 2 football fields length from our front porch up hill sharply most of the way. There's no way I can get water up there! Pulmonarias--Mrs. Moon, ordinary Solomon's Seal, Blood Root, Virginia bluebell, May Apples in spring. Goose neck in mid summer along with perennial woodland sunflowers (came by themselves), several wild asters,and Virginia creeper coloring up in the fall. I brought the pulmonarias and gooseneck from my Vermont sister in law's and everything else brought itself.

Plaidbird, Some homeless may enjoy it. When we meet a new mailperson they mention it, also utility meter readers, and fisherboys, some of whom might go in that chapter you were talking about.

Holes in the leaves: You must have a bug problem. Check at night to see what might be eating them if you don't see anything during the day.

NW exposure: That doesn't sound like a whole lot of sunlight for these to bloom properly. IMO all the plants you mentioned growing in this area are pretty much full sun (or close to it) plants.

Kevin

I was going to say what Kevin said. I grow Black Eyed Susans in the hottest, sunniest spot in my yard. Echinacea gets western (late afternoon sun). I would be inclined t say slugs possibly tearing holes. I had problems earlier this year with Hostas. if it is them you will see them come out at night and mine are usually in the shaded beds.

used to grow brugmansia indoors but got tired of fighting the whiteflies and switched to the annuals. hadnt had any for a couple of years but volunteers sprouted in the veggie garden. dont have hornworms but supposedly they will eat the daturas in preference to tomatoes. datura honey is mildly hallucinogenic with a bitter tang that tastes like the leaves smell.

They come back from the roots here. No problem with white flies.