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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

need a pic ...

to decide if they are just spent ... or if it is transplant shock ..

when did you plant them???

i would never fert a stressed or shocked plant ...

i would lightly fert a plant that is past its flowering season ...

ken

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 12:42PM
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linda888

Well I took a picture of them, but couldn't upload the pics. I'll try again tomorrow.

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 11:37PM
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emmarene

Very nice indeed.

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 5:31PM
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emmarene

duplicate

This post was edited by emmarene on Thu, Jul 3, 14 at 17:33

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 5:32PM
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green_go (Canada, Ontario, z 5a)(5A)

My purple lilac âÂÂSensationâ sends white flowers sometimes:

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 3:18PM
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lilsprout

I found it very strange to discover the first solid one.

But when the half colored one appeared....I couldn't believe my eyes, I too thought "paranormal" while scratching my head....
It will be interesting to see if the other plants change as well.

Thanks everyone.

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 4:02PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

in google .... convert to the Latin name.. and add PROPAGATION ..

ken

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 12:44PM
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shadeyplace(7)

agree>>I cut my spent flowers off and that is that.

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 10:48AM
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raehelen(USDA 7-8)

Thanks so much! Not what I wanted to hear, but now I know! I had recently bought Canna lilies in bloom, and found out they will keep blooming if I deadhead. Having always started them from tubers and having to wait all summer until a flower appeared, I never knew they would keep blooming...LOL. When I first looked up Meadowsweet, all the Google hits were for F. ulmaria, and many sources said it will keep blooming if deadheaded (though I hadn't found that). So I had high hopes! :>)

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 11:08AM
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shadeyplace(7)

I can't have this wonderful plant because I do not have enough sun and my soil is to fertile. I have heard it likes lean soil>>no amendments and no fertilizer.

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 9:03AM
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luckyladyslipper(MA 5b-6a)

Thanks, Digging, I may try aluminum sulfate, then.

Shadey, this guy has had no amendments since before I planted him in 2007, and he has bloomed rather well in previous years, though I can't seem to find a photo. The first few years it was beautiful at the same time my poppies were profuse - which actually is why I moved it from the left side of the window behind the peonies you can't see, to the right side. Then the poppies were eaten one devastating winter. Alas, the life of a garden!

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 9:29AM
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duluthinbloomz4

Apparently Neem Oil was never officially registered as a pesticide in Canada.

    Bookmark     June 30, 2014 at 4:43PM
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pwin(7)

Someone at the local garden centre suggested I ask owners of organic farms for some neem oil. However, you can find it as a skincare product.

There are links in the link below to two online suppliers in Canada. One company has a minimum order amount and the other sells it in large quantities.

Here is a link that might be useful: Neem Oil in Canada

    Bookmark     July 3, 2014 at 4:05AM
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gardenweed_z6a

I have a number of agastache cultivars but over the years have found Agastache foeniculum 'Golden Jubilee' to be the heaviest self-seeder/repeat performer. It has returned reliably in my part sun sandy loam since 2008 or thereabouts.

Penstemon digitalis 'Mystica' has been the best-performing beardtongue in my various garden beds, in both full and part sun. I grew more than a half dozen other penstemon cultivars from seed via winter sowing but none have thrived to the same extent as 'Mystica.'

I have both Penstemon and Agastache growing in the same part sun garden bed. The soil is slightly acidic sandy loam. I can't guarantee they'd perform the same way in your garden but have enjoyed them in my own.

The link below takes you to a list of Agastache cultivars at the Missouri Botanical Garden website where you can access more specific information.

Here is a link that might be useful: Missouri Botanical Garden

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 8:15PM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

I have found excellent drainage to be the most important factors for both agastache and penstemon.

I have grown both Acapulco Orange and Rose. They are both very floriforous. Here's a picture of Orange from last year:

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 10:53PM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

-Susan, that stinks yours died too. Did you mulch yours? Open or sheltered site?

Mine was planted in a semi-micro-climate (at least a zone higher), no mulch. Not sure that would have made a difference or not.

It makes me curious about the other hardy alstros out there. Maybe I will give a different cultivar a try another time- Lazy S'S seem to have several...
CMK

Here is a link that might be useful: alstros at Lazy S'S

    Bookmark     July 1, 2014 at 11:04PM
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Thyme2dig NH Zone 5

Christin, you be the guinea pig, OK? LOL!
Mine was fairly sheltered, no mulch and I didn't see any vole activity in that area either.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 2:36PM
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Campanula UK Z8

ah well, I find deep and careful watering (2gallons per square metre, watered in slowly) to be more effective to get that all-important moisture to the roots....but mostly, try to clear away as much vegetation around the phlox as they definitely respond to good air ventilation. Failing that, bite the bullet and buy a systemic fungicide (dunno the proprietary names in US - we have dithane or systhane) - but just get a fungicide, not all in one pesticide/ fungicide like Bayer 3-in-1.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2014 at 2:32PM
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Carolinaflowerlover NC Zone 7b

I hope you figure out what to use....please report back, if you do.

This post was edited by carolinaflowerlover on Wed, Jul 2, 14 at 11:15

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 11:09AM
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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23 USDA 9)

A bag??? I put trimmings in a 32 gal rolling trash can....to transfer them into the 90 gal green waste recycle bin. And we even have a second 90 gal bin for the heavy weeks once or twice/month during the more active growing season (March-November).

...and our yard is Maybe if I borrowed one of wooyoak's bags... lol

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 3:56AM
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Mae Taylor

We have a couple of those bags, only they are green in colour. I think we got them at Canadian Tire when they had a clearance sale at the store.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2014 at 7:59AM
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rouge21_gw(5)

I have had two of these plants for 2 years and have seen no seedlings in either year.

The base soil is clay but I have added lots of organic materials.

I am never quite sure of variegation but I am pleased with the many flowers on this plant.

    Bookmark     July 1, 2014 at 7:04PM
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southerngardening24(7b)

It has definitely gotten bigger. Very pretty plant. Some of the plants I planted last year have tripled in size. What will they look like next year? Kind of scary lol

    Bookmark     July 1, 2014 at 10:33PM
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greenhearted(5a IL)

Catkin, thanks for taking the time to post this. I'll give it a try with lemon and cedarwood since you had luck with those two and I happen to have them both at home. Appreciate it!

Ryse, I remember reading something like that before about the SSS... But I agree, being covered in sweat AND oil doesn't sound appealing.

    Bookmark     July 1, 2014 at 5:38PM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

catkin - True about the eggs hatching so quickly, but if you dump out the water on a daily basis and replace it, the eggs and larva croak on the ground. They never develop into adults.

Also water hyacinth are not going to filter out bacteria and pathogens from bird poop. Birds poop in the water and disease can be spread from bird to bird this way. It is rare, but it does happen.

A few years ago, about 1/2 of the Greenfinch population in Britain was wiped out by a disease and dirty birdfeeders and birdbaths were thought to be a one of the main causes.

For me, emptying the water daily is simply a routine I've accustomed myself to and it gives me a bit of piece of mind knowing I'm at least trying to protect the birds that visit my garden.

Kevin

    Bookmark     July 1, 2014 at 7:12PM
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DiggingInTheDirt(6b-PA)

Thanks for the link, fig. I might have to resort to buying it online.

    Bookmark     July 1, 2014 at 5:32PM
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lilsprout

Floral it just may be who knows. There were signs of an old bed that it looks to have originated from.

I just know anytime I see yarrow I cringe.

    Bookmark     July 1, 2014 at 5:42PM
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shadeyplace(7)

well I think he brought it BACK from Japan. for Asiatica.

    Bookmark     June 10, 2014 at 7:31AM
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catkin(UDSA Zone 8)

I've seen it used in very small water gardens (think large flower pots) where it can be controlled and it looks very healthy/attractive in that situation. We call it *Hot Tuna*!

I eradicated it in my flower border years ago--didn't seem to be that difficult--just dug till it didn't come back, but it wasn't given the chance to spread more than three or four feet.

    Bookmark     July 1, 2014 at 4:03PM
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