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Nevermore44 - 6a

The purpurea are biennial... but there are many more variants that are perennial... or short lived perennials.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2014 at 3:22PM
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davidrt28 (zone 7)

Thanks for the tip campanula, on the Polkadot hybrids. Their colors aren't especially appealing, and I'm not even sure they are widely available here in the states. I'll check for them the next time I'm at Groff's Plant Farm. But your post was helpful - in investigating them, I found out about a new yellow one called 'Goldcrest' which seems promising as a replacement for 'Spice Island'. Alas, the handful of American sources have sold out. But at least that means they might reorder for next year.

http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/blogs/graham_rice/archive/2010/08/23/digitalis-goldcrest-new-foxglove-hybrid.aspx

Here is a link that might be useful: http://mygarden.rhs.org.uk/blogs/graham_rice/archive/2010/08/23/digitalis-goldcrest-new-foxglove-hybrid.aspx

This post was edited by davidrt28 on Thu, Jun 19, 14 at 16:59

    Bookmark     June 19, 2014 at 4:52PM
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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23 USDA 9)

I'm in that boat. Two years ago, the neighbors had their trees butchered. There was no place to move the plants, so I planted several 8' potted trees I had handy for some help. The rest of the plants had to tough it out, or be replaced. The species fuchsia handled the sun much better than expected; the star magnolia declined until he gave up the ghost this spring.

Last year the city trimmed my street tree--a sycamore that had a lot of lopsided growth over my front yard, but provided shade. I have noticed that a good section of the protected plants under my pines get full, hot sun for the entire afternoon now. Some beautiful orchids and bromeliads that I have grown for years are going to be cooking from July through September--if they live that long. There isn't any suitable place on the property to move many of them. I'm weighing options, such as planting a small tree where I don't want one, which would also necessitate a revamp of the irrigation system and kill the view through our living room window.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2014 at 3:23AM
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DiggingInTheDirt(6b-PA)

I'm in the process of changing my perennial bed designs also, but because our trees are getting larger, and the beds that used to have sun are now in the shade. In fact, I'm now scrambling for spots to plant flowers that need full sun. I'm learning to pack them in real tight in the limited space I have.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2014 at 2:03PM
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southerngardening24(7b)

shadeyplace: I asked myself a few weeks ago what have I done! lol I like your gardening style as well!

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 11:37PM
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bellarosa(z5/IL)

my gardening style is what i jokingly refer to as "garbage gardening"! each area has a edger, whether it's catmint, salvia, lamb's ear or daylilies, then i add a few perennials that i repeat throughout the bed, e.g. shasta daisies, sedum, coneflowers. everything must be low maintenance and drought tolerant. so far this has worked for me.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2014 at 12:32PM
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davidrt28 (zone 7)

I'm not even going to bother clicking on that link...but thanks. Here's the question: what other organic chemical routinely lasts "centuries" outside? It would be a rather different world if they did. When trees die, thankfully, they don't last centuries either. Saprobes start breaking them down. It would be reasonable that large poison ivy vines themselves could live for > 100 years, maybe that is what they mean by that. A specimen stored under controlled conditions could last for 100 years. The Mona Lisa wouldn't have lasted 500 years in a compost heap, no matter how great it art. (haha) But outdoors under normal atmospheric conditions, any poison ivy that could have grown in a place, will decompose in that place.

If you must just spray your glads with a warm detergent solution, then give them a rinsing spray. It will wash off the oil just as it would wash it off your hands.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 9:10PM
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phlowerpower(5)

I would just leave the glads alone as long as the foliage is still green. They need to continue photosynthesizing to replenish the corm. In the fall, or whenever you clean up old foliage, I would wrap my hands in a plastic bag before grabbing onto the old glad leaves.

If you want to dig them up, I'd wait until the leaves have died back on their own. Wear gloves if you handle them.

Each fall I dig up about half of my glads. I dig up clumps, shake off the soil, let them sit in a semi shady but dry spot for a day or two, then remove the brown foliage and put the corms in a cardboard box. I store them in my basement. Last year I left done in the garage and they over winters fine as well. I dam in a colder zone thsn you do the glads are less reliable on returning.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2014 at 12:07PM
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karin_mt(Zone 4)

Possibly Butterfly Blue, even though it doesn't look very blue. There is also Butterfly Pink, I think.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2014 at 10:50AM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

Definitely Butterfly Blue. I could never get it to overwinter, although it does bloom profusely all summer.

Hopefully you'll have better luck.

    Bookmark     June 19, 2014 at 11:02AM
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Campanula UK Z8

C.latiloba alba

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 5:40PM
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fireweed22

Ok thank you!

    Bookmark     June 19, 2014 at 1:20AM
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woodyoak zone 5 Canada(5b)

Scary! Fortunately, it wasn't that bad here - although the wind was strong so I stayed out of the room where a neighbour's half-dead ash is at high risk of falling on that room if the wind is strong enough from the SW ...! The wind was strong from that direction last night but we got lucky and the tree didn't come down. I hope you don't get any storm damage either!

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 5:30PM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

Woodyoak, that garden looks fantastic. You obviously did a great job on the paths as it sounds like you had no drainage issues at all.

Lilsprout, that is one scary picture.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 8:11PM
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pwin(7)

Diane, I sympathize. I don't blame you one bit for doing that! And oh gosh, flax, too!!

Lindaw, the plume part sounds like deer. They ate a few of the astilbe leaves on mine, but left half of it and never returned for them. They felt no remorse about the flowers, though. That plant sure was ugly last year. :/ I had bought it because it was "deer resistant". I have skimmia next to it and i'm in love with it. I'm removing the astilbe for more skimmia. The little male skimmia I have the deer haven't touched. The large female one: they take a bite out of it and leave it alone the rest of the year. Though, I wish they wouldn't taste the plant by taking a bite out of the middle. :/

Pic is of my male skimmia.

I haven't tried liquid fence. I've used Bobbex. I have elderberry (also listed as deer resistant) that the deer can't resist. I sprayed it regularly, but then a month passed and the plant flowered and the deer were all over it. I've decided to spray it weekly. It isn't as if food for them is scarce around here. I wish they'd leave my plants alone!

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 7:30PM
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dspen(5b/6a)

That is one beautiful plant pwin!!!

I know we have to be understanding that the animals are only trying to find food. But my garden is NOT a salad bar.

LOL!!

Diane

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 5:58PM
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danell123

Thankyou!!! And we are in zone 5.. Yes they look pretty where they are i do expect to not look so pretty once moved. But yes i really wanna save them to do that i gotta get them to my house. Thanku we will pray myb with luck and all they will look nice their first year with me lol. I will post a pic soon of those. Prim roses was easy.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 10:46AM
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Campanula UK Z8

geraniums are easy too - I moved a socking great Rozanne before the roofers stomped all over it. Cut back as much of the top growth as you can (never mind if you miss a years blooms - survival over the years is the goal). Lots of soil and absolutely buckets of water - puddle the holes in with a full can. If the holes drain fast, do another one.....until you get a few minutes for the water to vanish. Dump the rootball in the dug hole - dont muck about mixing compost or manure -, and stay on top of the watering for the next 2 months. Np problems. Anything with almighty taproots might be a bit tougher....but still (just about) doable if you dig deep (I have moved roses on a laxa rootstock - nightmare) its all about the biggest rootball (wet it thoroughly before you dig, it holds it together better) and loads of irrigation. Good luck.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 5:39PM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Here's a closeup of the 3" flower, NOT one of the stinky ones.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 4:08PM
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Buddy-boy

Hi Cleo
Some of the old flower heads I sea look daisy like
Has this plant been situated indoors because it looks like a plant that has not had the appropriate sunlight, if that is the case prune hard and place out doors do not over water, dont kill it with kindness

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 3:07PM
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Cleopatra3

Hello! Yes it has been inside for a few or then 3 days that I had it for but as soon as I noticed it had lost all of its leaves I put it outside (person as plant place said it could be placed inside. I now think she was wrong clearly) do u think there is anyway of saving this plant?

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 3:26PM
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Glen4sure(7a)

This is petite bee balm that is purple.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 11:32PM
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ked1985(7a NoVA)

I am sad to say the pest that came with my transplanted fire marshall was not slugs, but those worms. I deadheaded the entire thing and am distraught to say the least. I might just replace it before I get too attached.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 12:35PM
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green_go (Canada, Ontario, z 5a)(5A)

I like combining foliage plants with yellow and purple/burgundy leaves:

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 9:57AM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

Have you thought about adding an ornamental grass? Pannicum 'Ruby Ribbons' might work. Here's a link

For a yellow grass how about yellow foxtail grass .

I think a grass can add a lot to a planting. Here's a shot of my Pannicum 'Chyenne Sky' with 'Red Velvet' yarrow.

That coreopisis in the earlier shot is Zagreb. Very hardy, it will spread but it's easy to rip out and give away from you don't want.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 12:26PM
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mnwsgal 4 MN(4)

I removed my scutellaria after several years as it self seeded too much. Think it would work well as a ground cover.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 10:46AM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

I don't have problem with the seeding because we are so dry. I do use it as a ground cover that disappears and then I have leaf mulch and salvia romeriana. They duke it out.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 8:57PM
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