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Scary! Fortunately, it wasn't that bad here - although the wind was strong so I stayed out of the room where a neighbour's half-dead ash is at high risk of falling on that room if the wind is strong enough from the SW ...! The wind was strong from that direction last night but we got lucky and the tree didn't come down. I hope you don't get any storm damage either!

Diane, I sympathize. I don't blame you one bit for doing that! And oh gosh, flax, too!!
Lindaw, the plume part sounds like deer. They ate a few of the astilbe leaves on mine, but left half of it and never returned for them. They felt no remorse about the flowers, though. That plant sure was ugly last year. :/ I had bought it because it was "deer resistant". I have skimmia next to it and i'm in love with it. I'm removing the astilbe for more skimmia. The little male skimmia I have the deer haven't touched. The large female one: they take a bite out of it and leave it alone the rest of the year. Though, I wish they wouldn't taste the plant by taking a bite out of the middle. :/
Pic is of my male skimmia.
I haven't tried liquid fence. I've used Bobbex. I have elderberry (also listed as deer resistant) that the deer can't resist. I sprayed it regularly, but then a month passed and the plant flowered and the deer were all over it. I've decided to spray it weekly. It isn't as if food for them is scarce around here. I wish they'd leave my plants alone!


Thankyou!!! And we are in zone 5.. Yes they look pretty where they are i do expect to not look so pretty once moved. But yes i really wanna save them to do that i gotta get them to my house. Thanku we will pray myb with luck and all they will look nice their first year with me lol. I will post a pic soon of those. Prim roses was easy.


geraniums are easy too - I moved a socking great Rozanne before the roofers stomped all over it. Cut back as much of the top growth as you can (never mind if you miss a years blooms - survival over the years is the goal). Lots of soil and absolutely buckets of water - puddle the holes in with a full can. If the holes drain fast, do another one.....until you get a few minutes for the water to vanish. Dump the rootball in the dug hole - dont muck about mixing compost or manure -, and stay on top of the watering for the next 2 months. Np problems. Anything with almighty taproots might be a bit tougher....but still (just about) doable if you dig deep (I have moved roses on a laxa rootstock - nightmare) its all about the biggest rootball (wet it thoroughly before you dig, it holds it together better) and loads of irrigation. Good luck.

Hi Cleo
Some of the old flower heads I sea look daisy like
Has this plant been situated indoors because it looks like a plant that has not had the appropriate sunlight, if that is the case prune hard and place out doors do not over water, dont kill it with kindness

Hello! Yes it has been inside for a few or then 3 days that I had it for but as soon as I noticed it had lost all of its leaves I put it outside (person as plant place said it could be placed inside. I now think she was wrong clearly) do u think there is anyway of saving this plant?


Have you thought about adding an ornamental grass? Pannicum 'Ruby Ribbons' might work. Here's a link
For a yellow grass how about yellow foxtail grass .
I think a grass can add a lot to a planting. Here's a shot of my Pannicum 'Chyenne Sky' with 'Red Velvet' yarrow.

That coreopisis in the earlier shot is Zagreb. Very hardy, it will spread but it's easy to rip out and give away from you don't want.



Yikes, google hit it on the nose! I know this is old, but just wanted to pipe up that I too have a Geum 'Mrs Bradshaw" that I got from a nursery (quart sized pot), and I planted it last week and it got real hot real fast 80s-90s (mid june) and it's wilted almost completely in one day! I have drip irrigation on it daily, and it just didn't have the root system apparently to keep up. Anyways, just wanted to share the crazy similarity 6 years later. Geums apparently don't do well when moved in the heat!
I googled "site:gardenweb.com/forums geum wilted" and this was the first hit!
and googled "site:gardenweb.com/forums geum wilted" and this page was top of the

If the flowers open during the day, they are likely Oenothera fruticosa "sundrops". A spreader but fairly easily removed if it overgrows its bounds.
If the flowers open at dusk, it could well be Oenothera biennis, common evening primrose, considered a noxious weed which should be removed immediately.

I find it very long lived (NW Illinois) and it is a great plant to intersperse all over the garden for a touch of yellow early in the spring. In my gardens I find that in early spring most everything is purple/blue, pink and white. The yellow adds a zing. It is so easy to take bits off of it and plant it all around. I love seeing it here and there in my hosta beds.


I think that the yarrows are not short lived as long as they get divided and moved around periodically. At least I had some Moonshine for ten plus years and also Summer Pastels for almost that long. Occasionally the Moonshine would reseed, and sometimes I would replace the older plant if it got ratty looking with a newer one. I never noticed Summer Pastels seedlings, but had plenty of it from division. Also you can peg down the side growth of Moonshine and get new plants that way.
Having said that, I don't know how they do in warmer, possibly more humid areas. What splitrock says is good to know. I am hoping the OP will give his/her plant a bit more water this first year while it gets established than it will need in subsequent years. I am finding I need to water the Strawberry Seduction yarrow that I planted here this year, even though we have had some good rain.

I have a Coronation Gold that's been growing in amended clay for 10 years. I'll divide it this year (it really needs it) but it's certainly a sturdy plant. And it's never seeded for rme.
In 2011 I planted Red Vevel and Terra Cotta; both are going strong. Terra Cotta has seeded a litle for me. It also is a sprawler but that might be because the soil it's growing in is rather rich. Yarrows perfer a lean soil.
Last year, I planted a Pommegranite which was absolutely gorgeous. Sadly, this awful winter killed it so it got replaced with Cerise Queen this year.
I love yarrow. I think the feathery leaves and flat flower heads make a great contrast to other plants.








Possibly Butterfly Blue, even though it doesn't look very blue. There is also Butterfly Pink, I think.
Definitely Butterfly Blue. I could never get it to overwinter, although it does bloom profusely all summer.
Hopefully you'll have better luck.