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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Here's a closeup of the 3" flower, NOT one of the stinky ones.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 4:08PM
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Buddy-boy

Hi Cleo
Some of the old flower heads I sea look daisy like
Has this plant been situated indoors because it looks like a plant that has not had the appropriate sunlight, if that is the case prune hard and place out doors do not over water, dont kill it with kindness

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 3:07PM
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Cleopatra3

Hello! Yes it has been inside for a few or then 3 days that I had it for but as soon as I noticed it had lost all of its leaves I put it outside (person as plant place said it could be placed inside. I now think she was wrong clearly) do u think there is anyway of saving this plant?

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 3:26PM
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Glen4sure(7a)

This is petite bee balm that is purple.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 11:32PM
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ked1985(7a NoVA)

I am sad to say the pest that came with my transplanted fire marshall was not slugs, but those worms. I deadheaded the entire thing and am distraught to say the least. I might just replace it before I get too attached.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 12:35PM
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green_go (Canada, Ontario, z 5a)(5A)

I like combining foliage plants with yellow and purple/burgundy leaves:

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 9:57AM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

Have you thought about adding an ornamental grass? Pannicum 'Ruby Ribbons' might work. Here's a link

For a yellow grass how about yellow foxtail grass .

I think a grass can add a lot to a planting. Here's a shot of my Pannicum 'Chyenne Sky' with 'Red Velvet' yarrow.

That coreopisis in the earlier shot is Zagreb. Very hardy, it will spread but it's easy to rip out and give away from you don't want.

    Bookmark     June 18, 2014 at 12:26PM
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mnwsgal 4 MN(4)

I removed my scutellaria after several years as it self seeded too much. Think it would work well as a ground cover.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 10:46AM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

I don't have problem with the seeding because we are so dry. I do use it as a ground cover that disappears and then I have leaf mulch and salvia romeriana. They duke it out.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 8:57PM
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katefisher(Z7_NorthernCA)

Thanks Nancy. I'll just cut it back for the moment I think then. It will wait until fall/springtime.

Kate

    Bookmark     July 3, 2008 at 10:59AM
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ocelaris(7a)

Yikes, google hit it on the nose! I know this is old, but just wanted to pipe up that I too have a Geum 'Mrs Bradshaw" that I got from a nursery (quart sized pot), and I planted it last week and it got real hot real fast 80s-90s (mid june) and it's wilted almost completely in one day! I have drip irrigation on it daily, and it just didn't have the root system apparently to keep up. Anyways, just wanted to share the crazy similarity 6 years later. Geums apparently don't do well when moved in the heat!

I googled "site:gardenweb.com/forums geum wilted" and this was the first hit!

and googled "site:gardenweb.com/forums geum wilted" and this page was top of the

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 7:12PM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

If the flowers open during the day, they are likely Oenothera fruticosa "sundrops". A spreader but fairly easily removed if it overgrows its bounds.

If the flowers open at dusk, it could well be Oenothera biennis, common evening primrose, considered a noxious weed which should be removed immediately.

    Bookmark     June 16, 2014 at 7:17AM
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ryseryse_2004

I find it very long lived (NW Illinois) and it is a great plant to intersperse all over the garden for a touch of yellow early in the spring. In my gardens I find that in early spring most everything is purple/blue, pink and white. The yellow adds a zing. It is so easy to take bits off of it and plant it all around. I love seeing it here and there in my hosta beds.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 3:51PM
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getyourleash(z7 Mid-Atl USA)

Lollipop Verbena!! Re-seeds like the lady next door with 10 kids!! (Yes, I live next to woman with 10 children. Luckily, they are mostly grown.)

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 2:34PM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

I also have an abundence of verbena on a stick. But I find them very easy to yank, so I don't mind. I just get them when they're tiny.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 3:37PM
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aseedisapromise(zone 5 SD)

I think that the yarrows are not short lived as long as they get divided and moved around periodically. At least I had some Moonshine for ten plus years and also Summer Pastels for almost that long. Occasionally the Moonshine would reseed, and sometimes I would replace the older plant if it got ratty looking with a newer one. I never noticed Summer Pastels seedlings, but had plenty of it from division. Also you can peg down the side growth of Moonshine and get new plants that way.

Having said that, I don't know how they do in warmer, possibly more humid areas. What splitrock says is good to know. I am hoping the OP will give his/her plant a bit more water this first year while it gets established than it will need in subsequent years. I am finding I need to water the Strawberry Seduction yarrow that I planted here this year, even though we have had some good rain.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 2:55PM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

I have a Coronation Gold that's been growing in amended clay for 10 years. I'll divide it this year (it really needs it) but it's certainly a sturdy plant. And it's never seeded for rme.

In 2011 I planted Red Vevel and Terra Cotta; both are going strong. Terra Cotta has seeded a litle for me. It also is a sprawler but that might be because the soil it's growing in is rather rich. Yarrows perfer a lean soil.

Last year, I planted a Pommegranite which was absolutely gorgeous. Sadly, this awful winter killed it so it got replaced with Cerise Queen this year.

I love yarrow. I think the feathery leaves and flat flower heads make a great contrast to other plants.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 3:20PM
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TexasRanger10(7)

I just stumbled across a vine that will take shade in the Bustani catalog. Its called Spurred Butterfly Pea. Centrosema virginianum. 5' to 8' native perennial zone 5 to 10. I'd never heard of it before.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 2:44PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

I have been wanting this one for awhile. I need to find some seeds. Too bad Bustani stopped internet salesâ¦.. I need another plant like a hole in the head.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 3:13PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

I think the transition of one interests is always he hardest right before one finds the groove.. Letting go of one activity for another is often not as smooth as one would like or think it should be. I think it is the letting go of the love and grieving the ski's being put away. I like the gathering of ski bums in the garden. almost like a joyful wake. I think the acknowledging rituals that we make in our daily lives really help and are a joy in themselves. Pretty soon you will be tubing those freezing river.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 9:42AM
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karin_mt(Zone 4)

Wow, wantonamara, those are great insights, and spot on. Of course today we have a winter storm warning, Beartooth pass is closed, snow is falling up high. But I'll stay the course! Must finish the paths this week!

I agree so much about the work in progress theme. This has always been fine as I've enjoyed the process. But I think a shift toward an end goal of less maintenance will help guide future progress. I was so close to impulse buying a $100 dwarf 'beehive' spruce yesterday in light of the need to have more shrubs. That's a bit steep for an impulse buy but it's the right idea.

Thanks again for the helpful words and strategies!

Karin

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 2:42PM
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gringo(z8 VA)

Well, I'll be darned, can't find one . Likely tossed it out, after a cold glass of ice water had got it wet & dried out, wrinkled, as I do tend to save packets, I usually save the various kinds of packets, as I like the different graphics, & save them, over the years & may have thought I had a duplicate & simply tossed all of them out, in error.
But maybe you can see an image of the packet, (a stock photo) used by Burpee, of packet for sale, if I'm not mistaken...Now that, ought to be rather easy to do, on the internet..as opposed to sifting all over again, through boxes, of saved seed pkts. from over nearly 20 years. lol

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 1:33PM
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diggerdee zone 6 CT

Hmm, there is some diffierence, at least from Burpee's site. The centers on yours are bigger, and more yellow (although the color could be a photo thing.). See link below for Burpee's photo of them.

Dee
P.S. I like yours better!!

Here is a link that might be useful: crazy daisy on Burpee site

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 2:03PM
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shadeyplace(7)

S. 'silver carpet' blooms rarely and so you don't have all those ugly flowers. Also Helen von stein has big leaves and rarely blooms (never for me). Other than stachys, you could use Japanese painted fern, one of the silver leaves Brunneras, Pulmonaria, Russian sage, Helichrysum petiolare (all though an annual) forgot to mention blue fescue...

This post was edited by shadeyplace on Sat, Jun 7, 14 at 8:16

    Bookmark     June 7, 2014 at 5:48AM
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gringo(z8 VA)

I don' t know how much shade, Salvia argentea can tolerate..
I much prefer the 'Silver Lace' dusty miller, for exactly just what the name implies about its' foliage, but there are fairly newer other cultivars like 'Cirrhus' (sp?) with broader leaves.
Then there are Verbascum, like the bombycifera, that is also a biennial, with silver fuzzy rosette of leaves. Unless, possibly the flower stalk is removed before too long? Not quite sure yet, as it is my first year with it...
For major display, artichoke are rather splendid, for extreme architectural appearance & silver foliage. But, with another winter, like the past one, it would be annual anyways!

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 1:55PM
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true_blue(Mtl Can Zone 4b)

Thanks dBarron. I'll try to move it when it's dormant or just take some root cuttings and plant it in the sunniest area in my garden.

Campanula, I've tried seeds (especially if I have a lot of them or if I'm impatient!) as late as mid June. But it's a hit and miss. Last year I was sort of lucky, got a few flowers, as October was weirdly warm, but it's a risk.

Anyway good luck with your poppies :-)

    Bookmark     June 13, 2014 at 9:58PM
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gringo(z8 VA)

I've made repeated attempts with the 'Super Poppy' series & managed to get one of them to bloom., out of many in the series, maybe it was 'Manhattan'? & no, it didn't last long at all, flower or plant!
Although, one year I had sown seeds & one managed to stay in flower (the single bloom) lasting, for well over ten days... yeah, believe it or not!
I suspect, it must have had 'Super Poppy' genetics, in its background lineage..
They are of hybrid origins & that process was likely started, with original work by Burbank, is my best guess. But, later on the ' Super' series was developed by De Welt(?) in California & the entire lot, purchased by a British lady, Sandy Worth, holding the National Collection, over there in England..
I tried 'Plum Pudding' from seeds, in winter (impatience) & it was so cloudy, only one held onto to life & after just one day of exposure outside, that was the end of it.
Yet, with a couple "Plum.Pudding" bare roots, one flowered & it was orange. Very disappointing, to say the least. I gather, someone was trying to make a profit, as they are typically propagated by roots, when a named variety & hadn't heard much about reverting, except by seeds...

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 1:08PM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

Thanks, Michael and campanula. That's what I figured since it's not like my garden doesn't have plenty of ants of its own. It was just really odd to see that they had colonized there.

    Bookmark     June 15, 2014 at 6:27PM
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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

Only thing may be that the could be aphid or scale farmers. And thus vector those insects...but the ants of themselves aren't harmful to the plant.

    Bookmark     June 17, 2014 at 12:34PM
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