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Oh, one of my favorite plants! I started out with two small sections 25 years ago; now there are so many I use them as a fill-in groundcover. Subtly variegated-leafed whitish and purple-flowering plants have joined the collection. And I am trying to get my hands on some B. ochracea, too. Your neighbor's patch looks nice peeking out from under the conifer.
lilsprout, you got my quirky sense of humor. Most people aren't familiar with the endlessly repeated adage of "3 years..
But I should have answered the question, which isn't as simple as, is it enough sun?... For your columbine, just fine, & having a preference for moist soil. While the daylily in bloom, likely gets enough sun, if it's until 2:30.
Whereas, I'm not even familiar what zone ne Ohio is & can say if your lavender can survive winter. Some may make it with protection, to zone 5? possibly with protection & well drained soil & if it's a hybrid...That can be a really tough question, as its a matter of plant hardiness & your zone & how much winter protection & if the soil drains well enough in winter & things to do, such as that, but does prefer full sun exposure & not severe exposure to elements of winter.
Shasta daisies can be an odd lot, depending on if its a newer hybrid, or just regular old ordinary, tried & true, 'Alaska'. Others can be picky about too much or not enough water in summer & soil , not only grown in, but planted into & I've seen some thrive in afternoon sun, where other cultivars may just melt, in the same conditions... & some drought tolerant in hot afternoon sun & others constantly thirsty, with afternoon shade!
Try giving your daylily some fertilizer and make sure it gets adequate water, afterwards.. If it still looks sparse, then maybe try another more vigorous one. There are thousands to chose from, just like Hosta selections.
Some daylilies entirely lose leaves in winter and others may have a few short ones, waiting for spring to arrive (at least down here where I'm at, in zone 7/8) & with the past winter, the ice age, from... I'd better not say!
hth you decide about what to expect, & when planning & planting in the future.
Full sun plants only require a min. of 6-8 hours of direct sunlight. I had Lavender, Blue Flax, perennial Foxglove, perennial Snaps, Dianthus, Thymus serpyllum, Daylily, Chives, Daffodil, Sedums, etc., that did great beneath a Cherry tree. They received sun from a.m. through about 2-2:30 pm and then filtered light to med. shade. This bed never got any amendments except leaf fall....soil was mostly sandy/gravelly and infertile towards the perimeter, which for the most part fit about everything planted here.
I grow polychroma, "bonfire" and 'First Blush'. Bonfire will spread around a bit where it is happy, but I like it, so I don't mind. Polychroma would take over the garden if allowed, but I still like it. Deadheading it would prevent it's world-conquering tendencies. First Blush is a lovely plant - tidy, compact and always pretty from early spring through late fall.
I also really like E. grifitthii - it spreads, but only through the bed where it is planted. It is easily controlled.
E. amygaloides 'purpurea' is a spreader too, but easy to control here.
Looking through my lists, it is interesting how many I have tried and yanked because of their aggression or they failed in our climate.
Yes, it is possible that the Pirouettes are better behaved. A little self seeding never bothers me. I do tend to mulch heavily, and they are growing under a camellia where I rake up the spent flowers in the spring while the begonias are still dormant. So it is also possible I am interfering with self-seeding. Nevertheless, they are truly lovely in a very special way. I really like this plant.
I would venture to guess, if your soil is depleted of sufficient nutrients & they haven't been divided often enough, & you cut for long stem bouquets, you get reduced flowering such as seen above in photos.
Long stems being cut annually, is not nearly the same as deadheading, which is removal of just the tip, where the flower was...
That isn't to say, heard of people with extremely rich soil, mowing them down after blooming, and getting huge flower displays, the following year. So, there is something that just isn't right, about those three, going on & can't dig in your soil, don't know how much you or how many stems you cut off, or the last time these were divided.
Perhaps, after going dormant in autumn, carefully dig ( as the roots are brittle) & see what's with the soil, & while you are at it, divide them to rejuvenate them. Then add a slow release fertilizer when replanting & amend the soil too...
Sometimes I get request for seeds from different places and to go through my disorganized mass of seeds and make some sense out of them, label and get them to the post office eats up my day. It is at some of those times , That I am made glad that this is not my business. All I want to do is traipse through the hill and dale collecting seed, feeling connected.
At the end of summer, some of the seeds at a store across the street, will reduce them to only just pennies a pkt. Including; Delphiniums, Canterbury Bells, Columbines, Perennial wildflower mix, etc..
Then , recycle a padded envelope & pay the least, using first class rate... to U.K.
Apart from that, collect what I can, from my own garden...
Just requires a little patience, of a few months.
Rouge- that is a really nice plant! I'm glad to hear it came back as well as it did, good for you!
I'm polygonatum free right now but when I go visiting and see plants I've given away I wonder why.... But then I guess you can't grow everything lol
I picked up another pot of this plant from another nursery just yesterday! (I never noticed this plant last season for sale and now I see it at multiple nurseries).
I planted one in a shady spot while the other was put in a part sun locale.....a bit of an experiment for which I will see the results next season.
(Anyone have success with it planted in a good shade spot?)
Thanks again for the feedback.
Morning glories need lots of sun...
There are shade loving clematis...see link below. You would need to put a piece of wire fence around your lamp post so the clematis tendrils have something to grab on to. Otherwise it won't grow.
I finally learned that after 5 years of trying to tie my clematis up and around my lamp post. Never worked.
Here is a link that might be useful: shade loving clematis
Virginia Creeper is a native climbing vine. It doesn't have much of a bloom, but is lush green all summer and turns a beautiful red in fall. It provides berries for birds and is a host plant for many moths. It can be very enthusiastic and spread into everything around it.
Martha
A note about the New Zealand delphs. I was thrilled to even get them to grow here in our hot dry climate. They did well for 3 years, then died. I was told I should have divided them, as they can bloom so heavy they bloom themselves to death.
Anybody else have that happen?
flowergirl, it may be the heat of summer that does the Delphs in, ifwarm nights goe well on into September , before cooling off. I think they have an eventual limit, to warm nights, even if 'tolerant' to the heat'.
gardenat902. I've grown the crazy daisy & awaiting results of some of my own hybridization. The Henri moss rose sounds interesting, Is it actually a 'moss' rose?
Nevermore, I had one Dropmore grow in my new garden & bought a root of Anchusa "Loddon Royalist' but appears stunted & maybe ordered a bit late, or was sent just a little too late? It is a fabulous blue, either one, no doubts....
David, I've been enamored with most Eryngiums, ever
since seeing one in person, thinking it had been artificially painted deep blue! (& not talking about ordinary planum, which often gets passed off, for everything else, but what it really is. I'll have to post a photo of some in flower already!
campanula, which Aconitu (m are you growing? I really like nappelus, in violet blue (Bressigham?), but it may be notoriously diffficlut from seeds. Which one(s) are you growing?
gardenweed, some that which you easily grow up in CT, simply get baked to death down here.
Ranchers might pay you to dig some up. Theres other plants native gardeners like that ranchers hate. Gutierrezia & Oxytropis (Locoweed) look great in a native garden but are hated by ranchers. Astralagus is also poisonous to cattle, these same cows are real good at spreading cactus by eating the pads and dropping them in piles to form new plants infesting areas with cactus. You really have to wonder about cows eating prickly pear cactus. Of course its mostly Texas cows since Okie cows have better pickings and more native grassland still intact in spite of the ongoing drought, its been a hard time for grazers.
'woody', the picture I posted is a grouping of 3.
(I have one or two cordifolia in another location).
Rouge, my cordifolia made it through the winter and is spreading but it definitely doesn't look as vigorous as that or does it have such large flowers. I'm afraid my conditions are more challenging. Mine are trying to compete with Maple roots.
I think I am going to buy a few of those 'Sugar & Spice' and offer them a better position than the last batch I planted. Further away from the tree roots.