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aachenelf z5 Mpls

I cut almost every-single- peony-flower in my garden each year. Why let the wind and rain ruin them when I can indulge my senses indoors? Pure heaven......

I still have tons of flowers the next year.

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 4:50PM
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gringo(z8 VA)

I would venture to guess, if your soil is depleted of sufficient nutrients & they haven't been divided often enough, & you cut for long stem bouquets, you get reduced flowering such as seen above in photos.

Long stems being cut annually, is not nearly the same as deadheading, which is removal of just the tip, where the flower was...

That isn't to say, heard of people with extremely rich soil, mowing them down after blooming, and getting huge flower displays, the following year. So, there is something that just isn't right, about those three, going on & can't dig in your soil, don't know how much you or how many stems you cut off, or the last time these were divided.

Perhaps, after going dormant in autumn, carefully dig ( as the roots are brittle) & see what's with the soil, & while you are at it, divide them to rejuvenate them. Then add a slow release fertilizer when replanting & amend the soil too...

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 9:34PM
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tradescantia sweet katenice
Posted by davids10 z7a nv. May 30, 2014
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kimka(Zone 6B)

I had Sweet Kate. But I find after a couple of years, it seems to revert back and look a lot more like Z. blue.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 3:18PM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

One of my favorites along with Sweet Kate.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 3:19PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

Sometimes I get request for seeds from different places and to go through my disorganized mass of seeds and make some sense out of them, label and get them to the post office eats up my day. It is at some of those times , That I am made glad that this is not my business. All I want to do is traipse through the hill and dale collecting seed, feeling connected.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 11:04AM
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gringo(z8 VA)

At the end of summer, some of the seeds at a store across the street, will reduce them to only just pennies a pkt. Including; Delphiniums, Canterbury Bells, Columbines, Perennial wildflower mix, etc..
Then , recycle a padded envelope & pay the least, using first class rate... to U.K.
Apart from that, collect what I can, from my own garden...
Just requires a little patience, of a few months.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 1:42PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

It looks like a S. farenacea 'Victoria' . Can't be sure. There are so many varieties of them..

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 8:21PM
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pam_whitbyon(6 Niagara)

I'd agree it's Victoria - one of my favourites. It's an annual for me and I don't usually see blooms till late June.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 1:27PM
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katob Z6ish, NE Pa

Rouge- that is a really nice plant! I'm glad to hear it came back as well as it did, good for you!
I'm polygonatum free right now but when I go visiting and see plants I've given away I wonder why.... But then I guess you can't grow everything lol

    Bookmark     May 28, 2014 at 9:16PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

But then I guess you can't grow everything

Frustrating isn't it!

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 8:08AM
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sunnyborders(5b)

Yes thanks, Rouge.

Tried uploading it first, before I wrote anything (other than a few Xs).

    Bookmark     May 25, 2014 at 8:06PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

I picked up another pot of this plant from another nursery just yesterday! (I never noticed this plant last season for sale and now I see it at multiple nurseries).

I planted one in a shady spot while the other was put in a part sun locale.....a bit of an experiment for which I will see the results next season.

(Anyone have success with it planted in a good shade spot?)

Thanks again for the feedback.

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 7:43AM
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lkzz(7b)

Morning glories need lots of sun...

There are shade loving clematis...see link below. You would need to put a piece of wire fence around your lamp post so the clematis tendrils have something to grab on to. Otherwise it won't grow.

I finally learned that after 5 years of trying to tie my clematis up and around my lamp post. Never worked.

Here is a link that might be useful: shade loving clematis

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 8:55PM
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docmom_gw Zone 5 MI(5)

Virginia Creeper is a native climbing vine. It doesn't have much of a bloom, but is lush green all summer and turns a beautiful red in fall. It provides berries for birds and is a host plant for many moths. It can be very enthusiastic and spread into everything around it.

Martha

    Bookmark     May 30, 2014 at 7:40AM
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flowergirl70ks

A note about the New Zealand delphs. I was thrilled to even get them to grow here in our hot dry climate. They did well for 3 years, then died. I was told I should have divided them, as they can bloom so heavy they bloom themselves to death.
Anybody else have that happen?

    Bookmark     May 28, 2014 at 9:38PM
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gringo(z8 VA)

flowergirl, it may be the heat of summer that does the Delphs in, ifwarm nights goe well on into September , before cooling off. I think they have an eventual limit, to warm nights, even if 'tolerant' to the heat'.

gardenat902. I've grown the crazy daisy & awaiting results of some of my own hybridization. The Henri moss rose sounds interesting, Is it actually a 'moss' rose?

Nevermore, I had one Dropmore grow in my new garden & bought a root of Anchusa "Loddon Royalist' but appears stunted & maybe ordered a bit late, or was sent just a little too late? It is a fabulous blue, either one, no doubts....

David, I've been enamored with most Eryngiums, ever
since seeing one in person, thinking it had been artificially painted deep blue! (& not talking about ordinary planum, which often gets passed off, for everything else, but what it really is. I'll have to post a photo of some in flower already!

campanula, which Aconitu (m are you growing? I really like nappelus, in violet blue (Bressigham?), but it may be notoriously diffficlut from seeds. Which one(s) are you growing?

gardenweed, some that which you easily grow up in CT, simply get baked to death down here.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 11:11PM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Is anyone growing it? I love the look of the quilted pattern on the leaves and the little pink flowers are quite pretty.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 9:46PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

I know that they are toxic. All larkspurs are. Cows are SO DUMB. I no longer have to worry about cows.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 2:15PM
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TexasRanger10(7)

Ranchers might pay you to dig some up. Theres other plants native gardeners like that ranchers hate. Gutierrezia & Oxytropis (Locoweed) look great in a native garden but are hated by ranchers. Astralagus is also poisonous to cattle, these same cows are real good at spreading cactus by eating the pads and dropping them in piles to form new plants infesting areas with cactus. You really have to wonder about cows eating prickly pear cactus. Of course its mostly Texas cows since Okie cows have better pickings and more native grassland still intact in spite of the ongoing drought, its been a hard time for grazers.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 6:46PM
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maozamom NE Ohio

When you cut back your caryopteris in the spring stick a few cuttings in the ground. That's the only reason I still have Sunshine Blue and Dark Knight. Also take cuttings from your neighbors plant and you'll have it too.

    Bookmark     May 26, 2014 at 10:00PM
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aseedisapromise(zone 5 SD)

That's a good idea. Thanks. I did have a branch that touched the soil root on the variegated one I had first, but they both died the next winter. Today I did find a "Longwood Blue" at the local purveyor, and since it was only five dollars for a quart pot I figured I would try it.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 4:02PM
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best bordersits all together
Posted by davids10 z7a nv. May 26, 2014
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Thyme2dig NH Zone 5

Thanks for sharing! Beautiful. Is that a rose on the right that really changes color as the flowers fade?

    Bookmark     May 27, 2014 at 8:19PM
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lvmygrdn1(7)

Wow. Gorgeous.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 3:47PM
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mnwsgal 4 MN(4)

Congratulations on your success. Nice to share the excitement of a new gardener.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 12:35AM
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aseedisapromise(zone 5 SD)

Great job with the iris. I have lots of half-high transplants this year too. They will be at their peak next year. You can thin out the other side of the clump this fall.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 3:25PM
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verbena rigida and some othersgangbusters
Posted by davids10 z7a nv. May 29, 2014
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

I think that is how long I had it and it exploded the last year. I live next to huge ranches so I am very careful about exotic plants naturalizing because no one other than the cows and the deer are weeding out in these stretches of land..

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 1:37PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

It is amazing how regional a plant invasiveness can be. I see differences in plants even within 20 miles. Salvia chiquita seeds out like hell on my land but in town on their clay, the seeds never sprout. The plants stay sized moderately. I am on a porous limestone and the things go crazy. I backed my plants off from a slope so the downpours we get do not carry the seed too far.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 1:50PM
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lalala (6b - Metro Boston)

I usually don't do anything, maybe deadhead the flowers at most. Last year I cut the foliage way back in midsummer to see if it would make them look tidier. They did look nice and neat once they grew back, but it took a while for them to rebound, and in the meantime they looked pretty ratty. I don't think it is worth the effort unless they are really sprawly. You might experiment to see what works for you. They can take the abuse.

    Bookmark     May 28, 2014 at 9:16PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

I cut mine back last year. The foliage was looking ratty after a few dry spells, so in August sometime, maybe, I just cut off all the ugly foliage which was most of it. Believe it or not, the leaves came right back, healthy and clean looking going into the fall. This spring, they are looking better than any spring I've seen them. So I feel it was a good thing. I will probably do it again this year. They didn't need it right after flowering though, it was later in the summer. I would do it anytime the plant was looking worse for wear.

    Bookmark     May 29, 2014 at 11:15AM
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