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Yes thanks, Rouge.

Tried uploading it first, before I wrote anything (other than a few Xs).

I picked up another pot of this plant from another nursery just yesterday! (I never noticed this plant last season for sale and now I see it at multiple nurseries).

I planted one in a shady spot while the other was put in a part sun locale.....a bit of an experiment for which I will see the results next season.

(Anyone have success with it planted in a good shade spot?)

Thanks again for the feedback.

Morning glories need lots of sun...

There are shade loving clematis...see link below. You would need to put a piece of wire fence around your lamp post so the clematis tendrils have something to grab on to. Otherwise it won't grow.

I finally learned that after 5 years of trying to tie my clematis up and around my lamp post. Never worked.

Here is a link that might be useful: shade loving clematis

Virginia Creeper is a native climbing vine. It doesn't have much of a bloom, but is lush green all summer and turns a beautiful red in fall. It provides berries for birds and is a host plant for many moths. It can be very enthusiastic and spread into everything around it.

Martha

A note about the New Zealand delphs. I was thrilled to even get them to grow here in our hot dry climate. They did well for 3 years, then died. I was told I should have divided them, as they can bloom so heavy they bloom themselves to death.
Anybody else have that happen?

flowergirl, it may be the heat of summer that does the Delphs in, ifwarm nights goe well on into September , before cooling off. I think they have an eventual limit, to warm nights, even if 'tolerant' to the heat'.

gardenat902. I've grown the crazy daisy & awaiting results of some of my own hybridization. The Henri moss rose sounds interesting, Is it actually a 'moss' rose?

Nevermore, I had one Dropmore grow in my new garden & bought a root of Anchusa "Loddon Royalist' but appears stunted & maybe ordered a bit late, or was sent just a little too late? It is a fabulous blue, either one, no doubts....

David, I've been enamored with most Eryngiums, ever
since seeing one in person, thinking it had been artificially painted deep blue! (& not talking about ordinary planum, which often gets passed off, for everything else, but what it really is. I'll have to post a photo of some in flower already!

campanula, which Aconitu (m are you growing? I really like nappelus, in violet blue (Bressigham?), but it may be notoriously diffficlut from seeds. Which one(s) are you growing?

gardenweed, some that which you easily grow up in CT, simply get baked to death down here.

I know that they are toxic. All larkspurs are. Cows are SO DUMB. I no longer have to worry about cows.

Ranchers might pay you to dig some up. Theres other plants native gardeners like that ranchers hate. Gutierrezia & Oxytropis (Locoweed) look great in a native garden but are hated by ranchers. Astralagus is also poisonous to cattle, these same cows are real good at spreading cactus by eating the pads and dropping them in piles to form new plants infesting areas with cactus. You really have to wonder about cows eating prickly pear cactus. Of course its mostly Texas cows since Okie cows have better pickings and more native grassland still intact in spite of the ongoing drought, its been a hard time for grazers.

When you cut back your caryopteris in the spring stick a few cuttings in the ground. That's the only reason I still have Sunshine Blue and Dark Knight. Also take cuttings from your neighbors plant and you'll have it too.

That's a good idea. Thanks. I did have a branch that touched the soil root on the variegated one I had first, but they both died the next winter. Today I did find a "Longwood Blue" at the local purveyor, and since it was only five dollars for a quart pot I figured I would try it.

Thanks for sharing! Beautiful. Is that a rose on the right that really changes color as the flowers fade?

Wow. Gorgeous.

Congratulations on your success. Nice to share the excitement of a new gardener.

Great job with the iris. I have lots of half-high transplants this year too. They will be at their peak next year. You can thin out the other side of the clump this fall.

I think that is how long I had it and it exploded the last year. I live next to huge ranches so I am very careful about exotic plants naturalizing because no one other than the cows and the deer are weeding out in these stretches of land..

It is amazing how regional a plant invasiveness can be. I see differences in plants even within 20 miles. Salvia chiquita seeds out like hell on my land but in town on their clay, the seeds never sprout. The plants stay sized moderately. I am on a porous limestone and the things go crazy. I backed my plants off from a slope so the downpours we get do not carry the seed too far.

I usually don't do anything, maybe deadhead the flowers at most. Last year I cut the foliage way back in midsummer to see if it would make them look tidier. They did look nice and neat once they grew back, but it took a while for them to rebound, and in the meantime they looked pretty ratty. I don't think it is worth the effort unless they are really sprawly. You might experiment to see what works for you. They can take the abuse.

I cut mine back last year. The foliage was looking ratty after a few dry spells, so in August sometime, maybe, I just cut off all the ugly foliage which was most of it. Believe it or not, the leaves came right back, healthy and clean looking going into the fall. This spring, they are looking better than any spring I've seen them. So I feel it was a good thing. I will probably do it again this year. They didn't need it right after flowering though, it was later in the summer. I would do it anytime the plant was looking worse for wear.

I don't know how seeds will work for you, but it might be worth a shot. Here are baby pictures of mine, three plants started from seed last spring. The larger leaf is about six inches across and I'm surprised any of them survived my neglect, let alone grew as well as they did.
The seeds were from the NARGS seed exchange.

I already checked out Fraser Thimble farm and it will cost me 40 dollars with shipping, A little too much for my pocketbook right now for one plant. Think I'm going to wait until early 2015 when other nursery may have it stocked again.
I will check out the NARGS website in the meantime for seed.

Your infiltrator looks like campanula glomerata. Very pretty in bloom but quite the spreader. If you figure out how to control it let me know since I've got my own problems here with the same plant.
Stupidly I'm waiting until after it blooms to eradicate.... But I've said that for the last three years (and about 200 square feet ago)

Your 'Pinks' are Armeria maritima aka Thrift or Sea Pink. Pinks by itself refers to various Dianthus. Armeria needs full sun and an open position since it is native to sea cliffs. So the Campanula glomerata needs to come out of there asap. You might have to dig it up to extricate the Campanula roots.

Mine didn't spread at all over several years. It remained in a clump unlike the other plants you mentioned. It didn't spread by seeds either.

There was crown vetch there when we moved in, it was there for many years and I never found it anywhere else even though the property was very unkempt and barely mowed for a few years before we bought it. It was originally cut many years ago as a boat launch, although the erosion from the lake had made it a ramp to a 10' drop off. We received permission to recut it in because it was existing, and as part of that we replanted more crown vetch as it is an accepted form of slope stabilization. Originally they wanted stone.

I keep reading how Liriope Spicata will spread like crazy. I can only find Liriope Muscari of course, which supposedly doesn't spread very much at all.

Thanks everyone! That's very helpful. I've decided to do it. Already trimmed one clump and I am very happy with how it looks.

One of the reasons I grow Siberians is for the foliage, which not only stays lovey through the summer but turns a good yellow in the fall. I wouldn't want to cut mine, even though it's such a pain to cut out the old bloom stalks.

Perfect! Thanks!

I noticed on the link it says something about the plant having a darker color in rich soil... maybe that's what mine are missing since I don't remember it being as dark a pink. The foliage is a really nice color though.
....wait, I just tried to find a picture and realized we had a really late freeze which burned all the blooms. maybe I'll be impressed this year! In any case I should give it some food and see if that helps the colors.