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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Kluttery, not at all. It's a fairly dramatic plant in the garden, bold leaves with a lot of texture.

My own was slow to show up. I had dug up and potted mine when I moved my garden, it spent last year until late Fall in a large pressed paper pot along my baking hot driveway but at least getting regular (hose) water. I planted it when the bed was finally ready late Nov, and two weeks later we had temps in the teens.

I found one lonely shoot mid April and was close to ordering a replacement. I'd planned it as an anchoring plant for that area and needed it to do well. With some warmer weather more stems finally began to break ground and as of this week there are 9 unfolding. I've even put some temporary wire fencing around it so the deer don't walk on it before it's up and strong, I want every stem there is with none tromped or broken.

    Bookmark     May 25, 2014 at 12:46AM
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rouge21_gw(5)

"Bronze Peacock" came up relatively early for me (for a Rodgersia) with "Fireworks" arising much later.

Here is BP as of May 28, 2014. Many more offshoots this spring than last; looking forward to it being full grown with pink flowers.

This post was edited by rouge21 on Thu, May 29, 14 at 12:59

    Bookmark     May 25, 2014 at 1:33AM
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Fluffy...what am I?Thanks!
Posted by BlueBirdPeony(5b NE Ohio) May 23, 2014
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vera_eastern_wa(5a-5b)

Prairie Smoke...native.
The will create a nice ground cover.

Here is a link that might be useful: Geum triflorum

    Bookmark     May 24, 2014 at 8:25AM
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BlueBirdPeony(5b NE Ohio)

That's it exactly. Thank you. It's quite pretty and behaves pretty well- doesn't spread here quickly.
Mine get full sun and seem to do very well.

    Bookmark     May 24, 2014 at 9:11PM
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tepelus(6a SW MI)

Very cute.

Karen

    Bookmark     May 24, 2014 at 7:46PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

EVERYTHING is movable./.. its called the nursery business ...

BUT!!! ... there are key seasons to do such... and SUMMER IS NOT ONE OF THEM ...especially for a newb ....

BTW .. its a shrub.. and there is a shrub forum ... check in there around 9/1 ... if you want to contemplate moving them ... it is done when they are dormant ... not in the heat of the summer

ken

ps: in the mean time.. think about how hard you want to work for a 20 or 30 dollar plant .. frankly.. i would prefer not to spend 5 hours digging and hauling this thing around the yard.. for 20 freakin dollars... i would cut it flush to the ground.. apply stump killer.. and go buy a new one ...

saving a planting mistake.. because its been there since the idiot original owner planted a darn tree in front of a window without the foresight to understand THAT IT WILL GROW OVER THE WINDOW ... is NOT a reason to save it ... get rid of it.. and plant your own mistakes... lol.. it took me 5 years at my first house.. to finally understand this ... dont waste the 5 years i did ...

    Bookmark     May 24, 2014 at 2:11PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

Rhododendrons and azaleas have shallow roots. Even large ones are possible to move, though I would do it in the early fall and then keep them well-watered until things freeze up for the least stress on the plant.

On the rhododendron and azalea forum there have been many threads about moving rhododendrons and/or azaleas; since they are the same genus and grow the same way, they are moved the same way. I did a search for "moving" on that forum and got several threads. Here are two.
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/azalea/msg052147512331.html

Here is a link that might be useful: moving an azalea

    Bookmark     May 24, 2014 at 2:23PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

thx for the info

ken

    Bookmark     May 24, 2014 at 2:00PM
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terrene(5b MA)

That doesn't look like any Monarda species I've grown, which includes M. didyma, fistulosa, citriodora, punctata, and bradburiana.

    Bookmark     May 24, 2014 at 2:27AM
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vera_eastern_wa(5a-5b)

Leaves don't look right, but crush a leaf and if it smells of oregano then you have M. fistulosa or didyma.

    Bookmark     May 24, 2014 at 8:30AM
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phlowerpower(5)

Or are they suggesting you leave it in indirect sunlight for a couple of days before planting in out in full sun?

I just purchased 3 rudbeckias and immediately planted them in my full sun bed. They look good so far.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 9:14PM
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shadeyplace(7)

They might do better in full sun but I have mine (for years) in partial shade and they do very well. Are these plants in pots or bareroot?

    Bookmark     May 24, 2014 at 8:05AM
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Michaela .:. thegarden@902 .:. (Zone 5b - Iowa)

Shadeyplace - Thanks for your answer! I hope you are correct.

Ken - They were in a bag, just tubers I guess and not roots. Similar to how daylilies come a lot of times from online sources. I've had good luck growing maximilian sunflowers & daylilies in this way, but I wasn't sure if planting them during what would normally be their bloom time, if it would mess up their growth for the year.

Martha - You are correct. I didn't realize they were tubers though, thank you for clarifying that.

Yep, they are sure in a nice shady spot! Thank you for your response. I don't mind too much if they don't bloom this year, just hoping they do sprout so I know if they are duds or not. I've never purchased flowers from costco so I'm anxious to see how they do.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2014 at 12:11PM
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gringo(z8 VA)

Well, its counter to the method & ways i've had great success with & that's to pot up first, then place in direct sunlight & lightly fertilize the roots at least once until growth appears. Once growth appears let it grow in sun until it just begins to get hot & then plant it in the shade, carefully, as the roots are brittle & so is any new growth not yet above ground yet.
Keeping well watered if inadequate rainfall, helps it to keep it from going dormant earlier, especially if it gets hot before or during start of summer, too.
Trying out Dicentra 'pink' this year, but bought early while peat in baggy was still moist & have a few flowers now. I'm in coastal Virginia & its been rather warm lately and they're doing fine..Make sure the tops are upright, when planting also...

    Bookmark     May 24, 2014 at 3:58AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

stop pulling them.. every piece you break off will resprout ... [thats probably how you managed to propagate them all over the yard ...]

get a very expensive applicator .. such as at the link .. this allows very precise application.. and little usage ... [as noted.. it is NOT a spray thing]

cut to one inch from the ground... apply FULL Strength RU ... on the cut...

return unused RU to the labeled container.. do not store near the hotdogs ...

repeat every month or so ... since you are killing a bulb/corm/rhizone??? ... [as compared to a root system] ... it might take repeated applications ...

yes.. you can do this.. right in the middle of another plant ... it will not sneak into the other plant.. in the dead of the night .. or thru the ground... i do it with tree seedlings in my hosta.. all the time ...

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 7:31AM
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sara82lee(8a - SE Va)

Lol Ken. I always look forward to reading what you have to say.

A squeeze bottle like that is a fabulous idea! I like it way better than painting! Wonder if it needs to be Plochmans specifically. Haha. You actually had me believing that the "applicator" you referred to was going to be expensive. I was very curious about what might be in your link!

Sounds like a good game plan/project for a nice long weekend!

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 10:27PM
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david883(5/6)

I have one in the front yard. Its in a mostly sunny spot, decent soil (not too sandy, not too rich) with some hardy cactus, russian sage and salvias. Mine doubled in size last year (first year) and I know it bloomed for a little bit at one point but I honestly can't say I remember the color. I remember reading, too, that it could be white or it could be a blue/lilac color. Having said that, I don't think its really grown for the flowers - I chose it because its low-growing habits and color (you're absolutely right - this with a dark purple ajuga would be beautiful! Like I said, mine is with the dark purples of salvia and light blues of russian sage but a deep, almost black purple would be beautiful with this!).
I'm right on the border of zone 5 and 6 in Michigan. I'm sure I don't need to tell you what a crazy winter we had and, even though snow insulates, we still had a few weeks for -10ð and my creeping sunshine made it through. Never dragged a hose across mine, and its still quite small, but it seems to be very dense and matted so I would imagine, after a little maturing, it would be able to stand up against a hose.
If you already have them give them a try and if they don't work out then I have some false lamium I can send you... talk about a resilient ground cover (JUST KIDDING lol)

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 6:13AM
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david883(5/6)

Just saw mine blooming the other day and they were white FYI. Just wanted to update you.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 9:24PM
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How often?Should a person divide or replant Irises? And Primroses? Jenny P
Posted by jennypat Zone 3b NW MN(Zone 3b NW MN) May 22, 2014
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jennypat Zone 3b NW MN(Zone 3b NW MN)

First answer......bearded iris. I have a number of clumps around my gardens, and got to thinking that maybe I should divide or split them, as they have been in the same place for 5 years or more. I don't get borers up here.

Second answer, Primula....I have one plant, planted on a whim I don't know how many years ago.....at least 5 maybe 10. It comes back every years and blooms, but I am thinking maybe I should be doing more with it than just enjoying it! Yes I would like more!

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 12:32AM
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mxk3(Zone 6 SE MI)

I divide bearded iris when the clumps get crowded/are taking over neighboring perennials. Mine grow at a good clip - they are happy where they are growing. I divide in mid to late summer. Very easy to do, just dig and separate the rhizomes, replant at a shallow depth - I usually leave a bit of rhizome above the surface. I normally don't have problems with borer but have in some years; if I notice tunnels on the leaves mid-summer I cut the leaves back to the point where the tunneling stops - have to leave some green to feed the rhizomes. No, it isn't pretty, but I have the iris in a spot where other plants hide the foliage to a large degree.

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 7:41AM
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diggerdee zone 6 CT

Yes, Texas, I love the color of the columbine as well! I don't know why this one hasn't spread like all the others - its the only one I have of this color, which is why I worry that moving it will kill it!

That little red flower is charming - is it a portulaca? It reminds me of portulacas I had out by the street, in a very dry, hot, sunny area with poor soil, where they did well. They reseeded all around, including out in the street, in the cracks of the asphalt! Those I would definitely move, so they didn't get mowed over. Of course, I had to be careful that *I* didn't get mowed over trying to save them, lol!

Hope your tremors subside, and very soon! That's got to be a scary!

Dee

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 10:05AM
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davids10 z7a nv.

verbascums, campanula sarastro-a vicious thug-sunflowers-do the finches actually eat any of the seeds or just fling them around-eryngium bourgatii- beautiful but i dont need a thousand-would love to have dicentra seed itself though

    Bookmark     May 23, 2014 at 1:01AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

One of the better online databases is here:

Here is a link that might be useful: Clothiers

    Bookmark     May 20, 2014 at 7:18PM
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nopeeking

Thanks! :)

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 10:20PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

phlowerpower, all 5 HB geraniums did survive this past epic winter. (I am so glad as I have been unable to source this variety anywhere).

But just like the previous spring they did take their time reappearing (Rozanne poked almost 2 weeks earlier).

Is it easy to find HB in the States?

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 8:09PM
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phlowerpower(5)

Glad to hear they are growing this year. I hope they prove to be good garden plants again.

They have not been easy to find, for me.
Last fall I pre-ordered several through Santa Rosa Gardens but their crop failed over the winter and their plug supplier discontinued carrying them. The only other online supplier I have found is Munchkin but they have it listed out of stock. My nearby town has three decent nurseries, but I have not seen HB at any of them. They seem to carry Rozanne...and Rozanne. :) A local grocery store has a seasonal garden center and today I found a few HB there, much to my surprise.

Now to decide where to put them....The area I was planning on now has fading tulips, so I need to decide if I work the plants in between the tulip foliage of if I just give up on the tulips returning. They were Triumphs, so probably do not have much chance of returning, but i still have a hard time pulling the foliage.

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 9:40PM
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gardenweed_z6a

I second floral's comment--it definitely isn't any yarrow I've ever seen.

You can also post the photo on the Name That Plant forum here on GW and generally get a definitive ID pretty quickly.

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 5:45PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

I would say that you lucked out. Beautiful plant.

    Bookmark     May 22, 2014 at 9:35PM
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