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paul_(z5 MI)

Some plants yes, others no. Plants grown up against the house seem to most require it. Not really surprising when you consider that they are only getting good sun from one direction and tend to lean a bit that way to begin with.

Lupine is a bit of a trial at my folks' place. They bloom beautifully, but the when their sprinkler goes on or a good rain comes along, the flower heads get so heavy with water and the flowers that they flop over ... sometimes snap completely.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2014 at 2:54PM
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donna_in_sask(2b)

For my gasplant, I cut off the pointy ends from a tomato cage, invert the cage over the gasplant (hopefully before it has leafed out) and then shape the metal pieces I cut off into "U's" to anchor the cage to the ground. Works like a charm and it stays in place indefinitely.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2014 at 6:48PM
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goldiemn(Z4 MN)

I had a beautiful patch of vinca grown over a number of years. Last year, it all disappeared after winter. Replanted in spring and this year, once again, it died. Any idea what kills vinca?

    Bookmark     May 17, 2014 at 5:10PM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

Too cold there?

I pulled it all up from my Mom's yard, I kill Vinca, but I haven't been to your house.

Growlove, that's how I always start a new bed! If you wait until the grass is definitely dead to pierce the smother, you'll have less grass in the planting holes, if that's why it's there. It's hard to wait, isn't it? Could just be from seeds dropped there already, previous years or earlier that year. Mowing with the chute facing away from beds helps too, as well as a border, like bricks, landscape timbers, something easy to trim against or drive mower tires along. If no new seeds are dropped and it can't creep in from lawn, grass won't reappear in beds, except the very occasional sprout. Pull as soon as you see it the first time, while easy to do.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2014 at 12:35PM
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JimDandyGreen

Anybody? Help for a newbie ;) ?

    Bookmark     May 15, 2014 at 10:58AM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Jim, you have posted in the conversations part of the Perennial forum, space for things discussed that do not pertain to gardening. You aren't being ignored, just not seen.

The regular Perennials forum (reached by clicking on Return to Perennials above) or even Growing from Seed would have been better choices.

Helenium grows best in full sun. There are many types, grown as both annuals or perennials, but neither need stratifying (period of moist chill) before they will germinate. Seeds will do best surface sown or just barely covered, some light may be beneficial to germination. Keep seed bed moist. At temps averaging approx 70 F, Helenium seed germinates in 10-21 days.

This post was edited by morz8 on Mon, May 19, 14 at 12:36

    Bookmark     May 19, 2014 at 12:34PM
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lazy_gardens

Ow, that hurts!

Splint up the broken flower stems with chopsticks or something and wait a couple of weeks. Then trim off the dead parts of the plant and let them keep as much live material as possible. They need the leaves top make food to store in the rhizomes

    Bookmark     May 19, 2014 at 4:55AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

there is an iris forum .... lots of great experts there ... if you want to double check us... i usually dont hang there.. because of pix envy .. i want them all ....

but flora is spot on ... even damaged leaves.. photosynthesize.. to store energy in the rhiz, for next year ... so leave them be.. until the usual time to cut them back ...

ma nature damaged them enough.. no piling on ... lol ...

ken

    Bookmark     May 19, 2014 at 7:23AM
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Thyme2dig NH Zone 5

Hpny2, what size do you let them get to before you finally transplant? My seedlings are so small right now. They have true leaves, but are just tiny. Do you usually wait until fall when they're a bit beefier? I've been debating on when to plant them out.

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 2:22PM
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floral_uk z.8/9 SW UK

If you have slugs and snails they'll need protection. Delphiniums are Gastropods caviar.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2014 at 4:29AM
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Campanula UK Z8

Hardy geraniums, aquilegias, aconitum sp.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2014 at 1:58AM
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Linda

SweetKate,

I have that same planting in my front yard and you may want to re-think the sage by your front door. The sage attracts big bumblebees and although they are not at all aggressive, (I work in my garden right next to them), some people are terrified of bees.

Linda
Landscaper and Beekeeper

    Bookmark     May 19, 2014 at 2:06AM
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cenepk10

I read to throw them away and start over when that happens. It will spread - & also to make sure the air flow is good around them... There are better phloxes for humid conditions

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 11:46PM
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Campanula UK Z8

no, don't throw them away.....you can try a Chelsea Chop - cut them back by half, water and feed and inspect the new growth - which will be bushier and more able to support itself. It will be later in flower and the flowers will be a little bit smaller than usual....but this is a very good treatment for many late flowering perennials. One of the most notorious diseases of phlox is eelworm.....which this is not. With an eelworm infection, the leaves tend to curl and grow in very thin strips, looking almost like there is only a central vein and no green substance. This does look like a fungal disease so rather than using copper sulphate (an accepted organic spray for fungal disease), I would be inclined to try a systemic fungicide.

    Bookmark     May 19, 2014 at 1:44AM
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what is this plzthank you in advance
Posted by MilaSan(5) May 7, 2014
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shadeyplace(7)

I have never known the name of this plant but it is the exact WEED I pull out in the spring....those basal leaves always look like they are going to be "something", but no.
I agree with Floraluk

    Bookmark     May 17, 2014 at 12:42PM
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cenepk10

It appears to be rather well fed. Mine are much smaller :)

    Bookmark     May 19, 2014 at 12:08AM
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marthastoo(6)

I'm pretty sure davidrt28 is correct after googling it. I thought it might be rattlebox, but after looking at pics of yellow baptisia online, I'm 99% sure that's it. My plants are very thin because they were completely choked by phlox and weeds which had overtaken almost the entire bed. The thinness threw me, but I imagine now what they can look like if they actually get sun.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 9:31PM
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cenepk10

Yes baptisia. Ding ding ding !!!!! Love mine. A new favorite !

    Bookmark     May 19, 2014 at 12:05AM
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gardenweed_z6a

Check the stem. If it's square, it belongs somewhere in the mint family.

    Bookmark     May 16, 2014 at 4:53PM
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cenepk10

Salvia ?

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 11:59PM
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id plzdoes anyone know this plant
Posted by MilaSan(5) May 7, 2014
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MilaSan(5)

Hi All,

First, thank you all again. I will send a new photo tomorrow.

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 11:01PM
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cenepk10

Dang ! Can't wait to find out !

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 11:57PM
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ellenr22 - NJ - Zone 6b/7a(6b/7a)

I haven't but they sound beautiful. I am going to find a picture of them.

I did find rudbeckias growing all over this season where I didn't plant them.
I don't know what kind they are yet.
It would be wonderful if they turn out to be reseeds of the cherry brandy that I lost to the brutal winter.

    Bookmark     May 17, 2014 at 8:25AM
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cenepk10

Rudbeckias.... Not my favorite for thuggish tendencies.....

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 11:42PM
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steve22802(7a VA)

Adam, what was the cultivar name of these Lupine seeds? Is it a mix of blues and purples?

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 7:14AM
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cenepk10

I planted lupine seeds last spring. They popped up as seedlings - then petered out. They are back this year and about 4" tall. I want your results !!!!!

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 11:28PM
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linaria_gw

That sounds amazing. What kind of soil do you have? The ones around here are quite tame in heavy soil.

Thanks, bye, Lin

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 2:10PM
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jennypat Zone 3b NW MN(Zone 3b NW MN)

I wish I had that problem, mine has not peaked through the dirt yet.....and when it does it's a bit spindly. It's been in it's spot for about 3 years now.

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 10:55PM
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plant idthank you in advance
Posted by MilaSan(5) May 7, 2014
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

This looks to me like one of the native asters, perhaps Heart-leaved Aster, Symphyotrichum cordifolium (formerly called Aster cordifolius.)

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 8:50AM
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MilaSan(5)

This is a newer photo of the same plant, do you still think is the aster?

    Bookmark     May 18, 2014 at 10:04PM
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