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shadeyplace(7)

spicata not aggressive???

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 9:30AM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

Here, muscari is marginally hardy, and can be killed by a real winter. Spicata is a decent, spreading groundcover, but nothing frightening. It's all about the location.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 12:07PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

So, I guess will have to self censor more effectively because someone has a inferiority complex and is frightened of a few plant names. OK, I will try to be nicerâ¦.NOT.

I like Shame boy and Dog weed. I think I will start a thread on this

    Bookmark     May 10, 2014 at 5:22PM
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ms_xeno

Also, I just got some small Calendula starts in exchange for some violet plants. I put them in on Saturday, but they still seem a little droopy. Hopefully they'll rebound now that our weather's finally warming up.

The love-in-a-mist plants are about to bloom. I can't wait, even though we live in a windy spot and the flowers don't last too long.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 7:52AM
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gardenweed_z6a

ms_xeno - another slug deterrent is crushed eggshells. I sprinkle them around my emerging hostas in spring each year. Slugs won't crawl over the shells because they cut them.

I've read that they like acidic soil

I'd say that's an accurate statement--my soil is acid sandy loam and my TLs grow healthy & multiply the longer they're growing in both full shade and part sun beds.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 8:31PM
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ms_xeno

Thanks for the info, gardenweed. I haven't tried shells (not many to use in a 2-family home), but I swear by my cheap beer in old yogurt containers. I honestly wish that other local pests were as easy to deal with *sans* poisons as the slugs are.

If I ever get these things to bloom, I'll add a picture to this thread.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 7:33AM
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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23 USDA 9)

Yes, I know--rampant growth sounds good until you are dealing with it. :) I am in awe of your ability to transport an entire family! There have been times I have spent years just trying to learn the trick of transporting barking-at-all-hours-for-hours dogs into the interior of their homes, to no avail. We were the ones that had to move each time. And then there was the rental neighbor that played the base so loud our windows shook (and no, the homes were not attached!). So far this neighborhood is quiet. But are you for hire should the need arise in the future?

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 11:46AM
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garyfla_gw(10 Florida)

Hi
of all the problems the pond has presented the "BOYS were the most difficult to handle . I was scared to death they were going to drown but that eased as they captured some of my best fish ,containing them in jars as a "gift " for "grandpa "lol there seems to be some silly law about using live ammo on children Figured I'd have to resort to "psychology' no problem as obviosly much smarter than those under 10??
They had names but I called them Beast 1 and 2 never humanize an adversary..??
First conversation with #1 . That's a nice fish pond but WE have a swimming pool!!
Those aren't fish they're maneating sharks!!! so there.
You're a silly old man you can't really keep sharks!!
Oh yeah?? , We could throw your younger brother in to test the theory??
Okay won't do that ?? Stick your foot in the water but be prepared to lose one, which can you do without??
After aLONG time he gingerly stuck in some toes which were immediately attacked by the "peacock bass"lol
have never heard such a small child emit such a loud scream!!!
I examined his toes . I don't think surgery is necessary but be VERY careful in the future ,Fortuneately you escaped the BIG ones .
While it did not stop the visits they never again got in the water!!! About a month later the family moved supposedly because the father got a job But I'm certain it was because of the "sharks:?? Have never seen the "beasts" again but would imagine they have little beasts by now, terrorizing other neighborhoods ??lol
Was a memeorable "pond" problem
Have never found it mentioned in any handbook lol gary

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 6:00AM
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shadeyplace(7)

never tried this but in the situation you are describing I would go ahead with it. There are other things like vinca major, lamiastrum, ditch lilies etc that should do well for you also.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 11:00AM
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princessgrace79(8 PNW)

I don't, but have you thought about something like a caning type shrub? I have a sloped yard and the previous owner planted terraces of snowberry, it has held up the ground very nicely and fills in like crazy (too much, unfortunately). We have clay soil as well.

I would definitely look at vinca minor and some of the spreading sedums. You will want to consider at least a few evergreen plants in my opinion.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2014 at 12:21AM
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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23 USDA 9)

You will need a string trimmer, pruners, ax and/or shovel to whack the plant back. And they really do not look attractive edged due to how they leaf. Seriously, you should remove the plant on the right/pointed end of the bed. It appears that there is a walkway beside it. Unless that walkway is 6-7' wide, you will wish it was not planted there. And for the other plant, you may want to plan for moving the edge of the lawn back as it grows. I like bear's breeches, but it does demand some room.

Do you have sunnier areas for plants? Gazania likes a lot of heat and sun and can easily withstand difficult conditions where other plants struggle. It will probably grow okay where it is too, but if you need to plant a hot area, it is one to consider.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 8:59PM
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katieeyler(9 - Riverside, CA)

The yard is mostly shade. Seriously, when my friend's husband came by one day he asked me what we were going to name our forest. The house faces north and we have jacobina and clivia up against the house and the porch. The only spot that receives a ton of light is the hell strip between the sidewalk and street and I just planted tons of flowers and I don't have room for the bears breeches. I wish I knew what they were beforehand or they would have gone there. If these begin to get out of control I may just widen the planting area next to the path to accommodate them. If that doesn't work, I'll tell myself 'At least they're not as bad as the ailanthus infestation coming from next door...'

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 10:40PM
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Campanula UK Z8

yes you will but it sort of depends on timing. If you keep yours dead-headed, no problem - chop away.....but once the seedheads start to form then it will consider it has done it's job (making more potential babies) and will not send out more flowering stalks. I have loads of this and regularly shear it back because it is a martyr to powdery mildew - hedge trimmers are your friend.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 2:42PM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

Many thanks!
CMK

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 12:50PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

Looking at the density of the patch, I also think it's Anemone canadensis since garden Trollius tend to be clumpers IME while Anemone canadensis is a vigorous spreader.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 7:47AM
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marthastoo(6)

Yup - it's Anemone canadensis after looking it up. Thanks!

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 8:28AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

brilliant job ...

ken

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 6:14PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

There isn't a problem with what you did, but the "cat tail" things were the flowers. I usually cut mine back a bit earlier since I kind of like the flowers and I can do the removal of dead foliage while it's too early to do anything else in the garden (as long as the soil isn't soggy.)

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 7:38AM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

You stated they were very small pieces. I assume they were divisions? Depending on the size and quality of those divisions and when you planted them, that may be the reason they didn't make it. I lost my columbine this past winter, but am already seeing seedlings. I think if they were alive you should be seeing something by now. Columbine are pretty early to emerge IMO.

And for the record, if they were divisions, I've never had much luck dividing them. I realize all the literature says they can be divided, but I've never been successful.

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 9:59PM
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david883(5/6)

I had some that a threw seeds down for last fall/winter only to have them do virtually nothing until the end of the summer last year where they put up a few sets of little leaves. This year they're full plants, ready to bloom. I'm in approx zone 5, too, and I have planted a number of columbine plants bought from nurseries, stores or received in swaps and they have NEVER come back. These that I grew from seeds are the only ones to have done it so far. I know plenty of people grow columbines around here, perennially, with no problems - just my experience.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2014 at 5:34AM
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mxk3(Zone 6 SE MI)

I would do what I call a star pattern: 2 in the front row, 1 in the middle, and 2 in the back row. Put the white one in the middle row, and the second white one in either the first or third row. Space the plants about a foot apart.

Keep in mind in the first year you're probably not going to get that full, lush "mingling" look, but be patient - that will happen.

White tends to make most other colors look brighter. I have a mixed planting of "White Swan" and "Magnus" coneflower, and I really enjoy it. :0)

    Bookmark     May 11, 2014 at 3:45PM
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terrene(5b MA)

I think white and pink coneflowers look pretty together. The mix of Powwow berry and white together would probably give you a more uniform look to the plants. You could try a zig-zag pattern, 3 whites in back and 2 pinks in between in front.

I have Powwow berry, but not white. I've got other whites - 'Primadonna', White Swan and Baby swan and assorted pinks, Prairie splendor, Powwow, Bravado, and a seedling I've selected, and they are sort of randomly mixed. Most were started from seed.

Here's white swan with some random E. purpurea taken a few years ago-

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 7:26PM
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jujujojo_gw(6b 7a)

Posted by ishareflowers 6a. MA. (My Page) on Sun, Nov 3, 13 at 17:14

I love that cultivar!

    Bookmark     January 2, 2014 at 3:06PM
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jujujojo_gw(6b 7a)

A somewhat similar one blooming now -

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 5:03PM
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sunnyborders(5b)

A.M., you're obviously wiser (and less compulsive!) than I am.

A lot of the latitude in the names used for lungworts must reflect uncertainty in parentage, or origin.

For example, Pulmonaria 'Raspberry Ice', according to the patent description, is a sport (from a spontaneous mutation) of P. 'Raspberry Splash'. This type of knowledge presumably requires rare rigourly controlled breeding. In turn, P. 'Raspberry Splash' (patent description) is a hybrid between P. longifolia 'Bertram Anderson' (= 'E.B. Anderson') and P. 'Leopard'. Reading elsewhere, P. 'Leopard' is a hybrid, it seems of P. saccharata.

Generally speaking, it appears that much of parentage of the named lungwort cultivars is vague and unknown. Al least, as has been said, most available lungwort cultivars are derived, in large part, from P. saccharata, P. officials and P. longifolia.

You say A.M., you purchased the plant as P. longifolia. It looks like it is, but sorry I can't add anything to that.

Interestingly, like you, despite the leaves, I thought of (early blooming) P. rubra and P. rubra 'Redstart', which I also have.

All of the P. rubra cultivars I've read of are selections of the species, not hybrids with other lungwort species, such as P. longifolia. I guess though that doesn't exclude the possibility of (minor) P. rubra parentage in the hybrid lungwort.

This post was edited by SunnyBorders on Fri, Apr 4, 14 at 0:48

    Bookmark     April 4, 2014 at 12:44AM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Just a little followup, here's a picture of the foliage, I cut the spent flower stems off a couple of days ago. Is the name "Raspberry Sundae" out in the trade? If not that's the name I'm going to give my seedling. Annette

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 4:06PM
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Nevermore44 - 6a

Nice... how much sun/shade you giving it? I tried one years back and it struggled for a few years before disappearing.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 2:03PM
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shadeyplace(7)

Mine spreads in this place but I have tried it in other places and it also disappeared This is shade and sheltered.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 3:11PM
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gmom2-6boys

Shady, I sent you an email last night. If you have any Blue Delph. I will work out a trade. I love blue flowers and things don't start well here from seed.
gmom

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 9:02AM
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shadeyplace(7)

gmomtry Barry Glick on the web or tennesee wholesale.
remember, it goes pretty quickly, just spring in the garden.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2014 at 9:52AM
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