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shadeyplace(7)

Yes, the woodruff will take over the perennial bed. small hostas, campanula porscharkiana (sp), corydalis, astilbe, heucheras, calamintha, stachys humelo, carex, hellebores, hakon grass.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2014 at 7:49AM
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diggerdee zone 6 CT

The sweet woodruff will not bloom all season, and as it is a groundcover, will spread. I think it is a beautiful plant - love the foliage as much as the blooms - but I would not use it as a bed plant (I have it in my woodland area as a groundcover.)

I'm having a hard time thinking of perennials that will bloom as long as you'd like, and agree with laceyveil regarding foliage and texture, etc. One plant I have along the edge of some beds is geranium biokovo. The foliage is quite nice, IMO, and turns a nice bronzy color in fall as as well. In some of my beds it can get a bit ratty in high summer, but I neglect my gardens an awful lot.

Ah, I just read back through your original post and see that you already have geraniums. Sorry! Although I still think this is a good one! :)

For full sun, some of the creeping sedums may work. I absolutely love creeping sedums, especially the ones that turn reddish in fall and are fairly evergreen. However, depending on the bed the soil may be too rich. Perhaps give one a try and see? Just do your homework - some of them are fairly aggressive (while my kamschaticum is not spreading nearly enough for my purposes!)

Dee

    Bookmark     May 11, 2014 at 11:56AM
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ninamarie(4Ont.)

LINARIA triornithophora - Three birds flying
St. Mary's Thistle - Silybum marianum.
I and most children under 10 start sniggering at the latin name of the latter.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2014 at 10:27AM
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Carolinaflowerlover NC Zone 7b

How about a combo of Latin and common names? I sent my husband a list of what I bought at the sale at the local agricultural center. Streptocarpus Blue Birds was on the list.....he asked if I bought strep throat for blue birds. Poor plant....that is what I call it now. :)

    Bookmark     May 11, 2014 at 10:37AM
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jadeite(6/7)

Check the Vermicomposting forum (link below). The worms don't go into the garden, they won't survive, and you won't be able to make more worm compost. You have to harvest the compost, then you can make worm tea - lots of recipes and suggestions on the Vermicomposting forum. You pour this on your plants and stand back. I use a homemade screen to separate the worms from compost, but there are different ways to do it.

Cheryl

Here is a link that might be useful: vermicomposting forum

    Bookmark     May 10, 2014 at 8:18PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

see link ... flip to WEB side for words ....

4th link ....John WâÂÂs Rotating Screen Harvester is quite a gizmo....

good luck

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link

    Bookmark     May 11, 2014 at 8:44AM
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What are these spring blooming little yellow flowers?Here
Posted by jujujojo_gw(6b 7a) May 10, 2014
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shadeyplace(7)

Anyone know which one exactly?

    Bookmark     May 11, 2014 at 7:41AM
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TulsaRose (Rosie)(7a)

Location?

    Bookmark     May 11, 2014 at 8:29AM
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diggerdee zone 6 CT

FWIW, Mine are planted at the base of oak trees. They grow and multiply, but slowly. I'm not sure I would call them "flourishing", but having never planted them elsewhere, or, for that matter, having never even seen them in anyone else's garden, I don't know how to compare mine to others planted in different situations.

Just this year I noticed about half a dozen new plants, a bit farther away from the originals, and they too have seeded - and are growing - under other oak trees. I do believe oaks are easier to plant under than other trees, so I don't know if that should be taken into account.

Dee

    Bookmark     May 10, 2014 at 10:27AM
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terrene(5b MA)

Mine are planted under a Linden tree (Tilia americana) which do not have particularly aggressive roots. They are on a slope so it is fairly dry (I have well-drained sandy loam). There are other woodland plants in the area. They seem to be doing okay.

Here's a couple pics I took today. These are fairly mature plants started from seed, 2nd or maybe 3rd year blooming, which means they are probably 5 years old -

Here's a couple 2nd year youngsters -

    Bookmark     May 10, 2014 at 7:43PM
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shadeyplace(7)

Only one I have ever had success with is Arendsii
As said above, the night temps and high humidity here just kill off most of the others.

    Bookmark     May 10, 2014 at 3:34PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

They are always good for that late summer shot of electric blue

Of course I agree Campanula. The flowers are the most amazing shade of blue. (Here is some flowers from a couple of falls ago).

They are one of the first perennials to show life each spring.

(Below are my two plants as of today; very vigorous).

But it has been my experience that the stalks can flop if there is an extended dry spell.

I did a bit of an experiment last season and for one of the two clumps I have I did a "Chelsea Chop". It did still bloom and of course was less tall overall.

    Bookmark     May 10, 2014 at 5:49PM
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Campanula UK Z8

Yep - these are secondary spikes but next year, expect a single, much taller spike around June which you can trim when the flowers are blown, for another go-round later in the summer.

    Bookmark     May 10, 2014 at 1:41PM
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brit5467(7b/8a Coastal VA)

Thanks Campanula! Don't have any flowers that are that unique looking so I'm a happy camper...lol
Bonnie

    Bookmark     May 10, 2014 at 3:38PM
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shadeyplace(7)

I think everything is late this year. My grandiflora are up and have been blooming, (but I am in zone 7)! These are (I believe lutea), and they get quite large and spread and reseed.

    Bookmark     May 10, 2014 at 2:26PM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

Not only have I never seen Buddleia reseeding around waste places/roadsides in this area, I can't even get it to survive in my garden, so I don't see invasiveness as an issue locally.

I am highly dubious about the proposition that non-native plants supply no nourishment to native insect/animal species. Clearly chickadees and lots of other birds/animals have adapted to using these plants. There was an article in the Sunday New York Times last week from a garden writer emphasizing this (and recommending that people plant a wide variety of native and non-native plants to nourish the local wildlife)*.

*this writer's recommendations probably should be taken with a grain of salt, seeing as how his article was primarily about gardening with climate change (he seems to think that a single colder than normal winter is good evidence of climate change, which actually is documented not by single seasonal variation but changes occurring over many years).

Here is a link that might be useful: gardening for climate change

This post was edited by eric_oh on Sat, May 10, 14 at 11:14

    Bookmark     May 10, 2014 at 11:13AM
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monarda_gw

"Potentially" means maybe. I think it is a little overzealous to wish to ban every "potentially" invasive plant. People have been growing butterfly bush for a hundred years on the East Coast and they are not invasive. They are not even completely hardy here in many cases.

    Bookmark     May 10, 2014 at 1:04PM
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linaria_gw

I have 3 nice clumps of LQ, let its stalks stay over winter for the last 2 years and never had seedlings.

I found one plant which looked like a reverted version, brown center and yellow petals, but that had just 3 stalks very near to the original, so I rather thought it was some kind of mutation- not a seedling. It was just as tall as the pale yellow flowering stalks, so I labeled it and removed it in fall.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2014 at 5:06PM
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terrene(5b MA)

My Helianthus LQ does reseed lightly. Only a few seedlings, which resemble the parent closely, but nothing out of hand. However it IS a rampant spreader for me, and it runs roughshod over the other perennials and grasses nearby.

3 years ago the voles did a number on the patch. They probably ate 90% of it, along with the Baptisia, some Hostas, Eupatorium, etc. That was one instance where I was kind of glad that the voles had eaten them back. 2 years later you wouldn't even know the voles had touched them, whereas it is taking the other perennials much longer to rebound from extensive vole damage.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2014 at 6:35PM
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jxa44

The pix have been removed :'-( -- boo hoo hoo!

    Bookmark     April 23, 2013 at 1:42AM
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bellarosa(z5/IL)

too bad they removed the pics. i remember them and they were stunning. whatever happened to David? i don't see his posts anymore.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2014 at 2:18PM
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shadeyplace(7)

I have a red one and a gorgeous yellow one (about 20 years) and have never pruned. I DID have to move the yellow one because of construction and I will GUESS that these shrubs do not like to be moved because it took probably 3/4 years for it to recover. I think they are fabulous in bloom and I love their leaves when not >.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2014 at 7:21AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

My pruning is exactly like mxk's. Right after blooming, or while blooming if you want to bring the bloom in the house for a few days. I am pruning for the shape of the tree, sometimes leaving NO foliage, but new growth breaks out immediately. Al

    Bookmark     May 9, 2014 at 10:14AM
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identify this plant plzthank you in advance
Posted by MilaSan(5) May 7, 2014
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shadeyplace(7)

I agree

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 6:52AM
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MilaSan(5)

Thank you all.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2014 at 7:21AM
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plant 5Id plz and thank you
Posted by MilaSan(5) May 7, 2014
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babera(5a (Montana))

Cone flower (echinesia) sp?

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 12:31AM
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MilaSan(5)

Thank you babera, I love cone flowers, so now no where to transplant them.

I also have a critter (woodchuck) who loves these flowers as well.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2014 at 7:20AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

lets us know if the hardware Gods come up with a cheap alternative ...

ken

ps: i once stopped the local plumber [we bump into each other at events in our small town] .. and asked him.. offhand.. if he knew which brand kitchen faucet .... had the little plastic red/blue button on the spigot ... he looked at me like i was insane ... and said.. that its the hot/cold indicator ... i have approached him many times over the years.. to remind him.. that it was the stupidest question i ever asked anyone... lol .. and trust me.. i have asked a lot of stupid questions.. lol .. congrats on the knee..

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 7:44AM
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mnwsgal 4 MN(4)

Thanks, Ken, for the chuckle.

    Bookmark     May 8, 2014 at 6:32PM
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