13,520 Garden Web Discussions | Perennials

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sunnyborders(5b)

Woody, understand the point about bold curves (actually also one of David's past lecture themes).

I suspect that designing (even maintaining) a mixed perennial garden for a larger area is much easier (relatively speaking) than doing it for a smaller area.

Will certainly be in touch about Merlin's Hollow, Woody.
Nice and bright here, but wish it would warm up a bit more. But at least the lungworts and the primulas seem to be handling it. They're just beginning to flower in the sunniest locations.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 2:50PM
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pam_whitbyon(6 Niagara)

Lovely garden. I too am always amazed by the sudden spring transformation in our area. The garden equivalent of jumping out of oilskins into bikinis.

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 2:34PM
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mori1(5b/6a)

Like most have said, its really hit or miss. Last year they lily bulbs bag, the ones that have 3 or 5 to a bag for a dollar. I got 3 or 4 bags. As far as the plants go, I rarely buy plants there anymore. With Lowes, Ace Westlake hardware store, farmer market, Kaw valley and Grass pad, I can better deals than Walmart. They have a wide selection and much better customer service.

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 1:36PM
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duluthinbloomz4

One of the problems we run in to here is plants come into the Big Boxes and garden centers - even the good ones - too early for optimal planting conditions. And even some of the very reputable places will be glad to sell you zone inappropriate or iffy stock - not exclusively a WM trait. In past seasons, I've notices many of WM's garden center plants come from no farther away than Michigan, Wisconsin and southern Minnesota. After an extended and extremely harsh winter like the one we're slowly emerging from, people are anxious to buy and get their hands in the dirt.

Here it is, May 7, still snow piles here and there and the air temp is only36 o. I could buy early, house things in the garage and by Memorial Day or the week after have all kinds of stressed out and root bound things. This is a part of the country where the calendar isn't your best guide.

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 2:08PM
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shadeyplace(7)

I was imagining a foot of hardwood mulch. I sure would not just stick a bulb or perennial in that. Possibly amend the existing soil with it, but not just plant in it.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 10:19AM
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ladychroe(z6 NJ)

No, this is a foot of black-dyed shredded wood mulch. I can't imagine planting perennials in it.

My husband had knee surgery in January and is not up to the task.

Planting tulips deeply keeps them from dividing and weakening, and they are more perennial. I planted a lot of bulbs both ways and got a better return rate with the deeply planted ones.

    Bookmark     May 7, 2014 at 12:26AM
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ryseryse_2004

I am in Z5a and my delphiniums have been up for about 2 weeks - they are currently from one to four feet tall so yours should at least be poking through.

I agree with Ken - that wonderful deep snow cover that lasted from Nov. through March was great protection for everything. I had some winter damage to my Junipers but nothing else. In fact, I have lots of mum plants that are coming back like gang-busters. First time for that!

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 11:52AM
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david883(5/6)

My agastache is springing up in one area but very slow to start in another (shadier).
In that same shadier area I have gaura mariposa (midnight pink) and they haven't shown any sign of life. I did move them a little last fall and they didn't quite seem to perk back up to normal. I need to drive around the neighborhood - one of my neighbors has a HUGE mass of gaura in the front of their house that I'm just envious of.

Best of luck - my fingers are crossed for you!

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 8:07PM
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ryseryse_2004

I have many herbs - catmint included growing in gravel along my pathways. That, thyme, dill and peppermint seem to not even need soil! Also they are very drought- tolerant.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 12:06PM
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terrene(5b MA)

I've got Catmint growing the edge of my "xeric" garden, which is a dry bed in the southwest corner of the yard and close to the sidewalk. It is partly-mostly sunny and the soil is somewhat lean. This bed rarely gets watered, only if I recently planted something, or seedlings, or we have a serious drought and just to keep plants alive. The catmint does really well under such conditions, so I save the more fertile beds for perennials that don't (which would be most of them).

Just checked that bed out today and the 'Junior Walker' is blooming a little!

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 6:28PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

I have acid fine sandy loam and had this for a few years before I ended up shovel pruning it. It had a lot of dieback each winter, even though it spent much of the winter buried in snow, and never grew enough during the growing season to catch up to the losses. So it got smaller every year over several years until I got rid of it.

I know that full sized Itea virginiana is growing within 1/2 hour or so of here, so I wonder if 'Little Henry' has a more southern provenance and isn't quite as hardy. Mine was growing in a well-mulched bed in part sun with high bush blueberries, Yaku Rhodoendrons, Cornus alternifolia/pagoda dogwood and Kalmia latifolia/mountain laurel, so it should have been happy.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 6:36PM
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jitsmith(5)

Thx nhbabs, glad for the foreknowledge. You may be right about provenance, Bluestone lists it as Zone 5. Sounds as if you're on the cool end of that and I'm on the higher. If I can't find anything else that seems right I may give it a try anyway.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 5:33PM
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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

I haven't ordered from Gilbert Wilde, but I've seen their gardens. I wouldn't hesitate to order from them...but I suspect they won't ship till fall.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 12:21PM
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ryseryse_2004

Gilbert Wild definitely. Most of my hostas and peonies came from there. They have wonderful sales and the roots are large and healthy.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 2:58PM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

Disporum 'Night Heron'...
CMK

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 1:14PM
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ladychroe(z6 NJ)

Monarda?

I had some clematis that I grew on trellises in morning sun only. They didn't get huge in the 4 years I had them, but they did flower. I had Comtesse de Buchard (lavender) and Pink Flamingo (cream and pink bells). There was a purple too, but I forget which it was.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 1:52PM
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stfowler(6b)

Yes. They still have all the leaves on them. I've got them laid out all nice and neat. Totally won't forget them, just want to give them the best chance of survival.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 7:18PM
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paul_(z5 MI)

Assuming these were grown outdoors ....

If the roots are still in clumps of moist dirt, I'd plant them where you are going to grow them. Water to keep moist. As long as leaves are green, the bulbs are still in the "gathering energy" mode to store food for next year's flowers.

If the roots were rinsed off or the dirt on the roots has completely dried out so that the roots have dried up, then that pretty is it for the season. In that event, I'd follow the directions the gardens gave. However, whether to wait until October to plant is another Q.
1) Once the greenery has died off an the stems have been removed, you could give the bulbs a week or two longer to make sure the area from which the stems have come off the bulbs has dried. Then there is no reason you can't simply plant them then.
2) If you are considering planting a number of other bulbs in the Fall, it might be easier to wait so you can keep better track of what you planted where.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 9:51PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

We took off quite a few. .... What should I do? Could this beautiful bird be part of the cause of my lack of peaches.

==>>> its seems your lack of peaches.. was you picking a lot of them off???? ... why???

do try the fruit forum .... there are a multitude of reasons for crop failure ... include a harsh winter ... a frost or freeze that kills the flowers before they get pollinated ... reduced bee population.. etc ...

and perhaps even birds... but i think that reason is really stretching it ... but then i have never grown peach.. wherever you are ... with BOs around ... i can only speculate ...

ken

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 7:24AM
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gardenper(8)

If you keep your tree to a certain size, you might be able to put bird netting around it. Depending on how you set that up, you might be able to save some blooms and fruits.

I wonder if one of those fake owls nearby might scare the oriole(s) away?

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 1:18PM
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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

The more sun the better, for the most part. It's a glade/prairie plant. I've grown in western exposure and it doesn't perform nearly as well as full sun.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 8:16AM
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specialmn1

Thank you for your help and the photos, beautiful!
I think I will try to find a another spot in full sun...I'm running out of room!

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 9:20AM
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mxk3(Zone 6 SE MI)

Thanks! I will try the vinegar.

    Bookmark     May 4, 2014 at 7:29PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

and a stout wire brush with a handle ... something you can really scrub with ... rather than steel wool ...

DEPENDING on how thick the buildup is ... perhaps kevin is more on top of doing this every year ...

compared to me.. who would do it once a decade... or declare it a natural decoration on the pot.. lol ... and never do it...

ken

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 7:19AM
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Ruth_MI(z5MI)

Rub a few between your fingers and see what they smell like. I guess i'm not 100% sure tiny seedlings already have a scent if they're Nepeta, but if they do, you'll have your ID!

I do this a lot when I'm unsure of new growth.

    Bookmark     May 4, 2014 at 9:49PM
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gardenweed_z6a

Another option is to check the stems. If they're square, chances are they're nepeta--my Walkers Low plants have square stems, which places them in the mint family along with monarda.

    Bookmark     May 4, 2014 at 10:47PM
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gardenweed_z6a

A few more bites of eye candy:

Winter sown Barlow columbine

WS lupine

WS Iberis/candytuft

Breezeway pot ghetto

    Bookmark     May 3, 2014 at 10:57AM
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SnailLover(5a MI)

Oh wow, what gorgeous pics! I can see why WS would be addictive. I'll have to look into this for next winter. My coworker gave me poppy seed pods last summer which I stored in the garage all winter. (Not sure if that counts as overwintering, lol) I think the mice all had turns at them. Maybe next year I'll get some more and try winter sowing. Yep, can definitely see this as being addictive!

    Bookmark     May 4, 2014 at 2:22PM
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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23 USDA 9)

Yep, that is a trencher chain! I don't think we owned a large trencher at the nursery/landscape business. It must have been from when my husband worked with a tree farm, and they replaced their trencher's chain. (I was busy raising a baby then, so we had moved away from self employment). It was probably sitting in the field for 25 years.

I have always liked adding root knots and twisted branches into my landscape. Acorn woodpecker storage graineries and nest holes were also something I have long wished we could import for the local Nuttall's woodpeckers. Unfortunately, I don't have a source near our home and I cannot safely transport that type of stuff from the nursery land in another county, because the oaks died from a disease/beetle infestation that could be spread. :(

    Bookmark     May 4, 2014 at 3:13AM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

-michey1st, forgot to reply to you earlier....BRILLIANT! I have some chicken wire hanging around here somewhere- might give that a try. Thanks ;-)
CMK

    Bookmark     May 4, 2014 at 12:16PM
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