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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

I have acid fine sandy loam and had this for a few years before I ended up shovel pruning it. It had a lot of dieback each winter, even though it spent much of the winter buried in snow, and never grew enough during the growing season to catch up to the losses. So it got smaller every year over several years until I got rid of it.

I know that full sized Itea virginiana is growing within 1/2 hour or so of here, so I wonder if 'Little Henry' has a more southern provenance and isn't quite as hardy. Mine was growing in a well-mulched bed in part sun with high bush blueberries, Yaku Rhodoendrons, Cornus alternifolia/pagoda dogwood and Kalmia latifolia/mountain laurel, so it should have been happy.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 6:36PM
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jitsmith(5)

Thx nhbabs, glad for the foreknowledge. You may be right about provenance, Bluestone lists it as Zone 5. Sounds as if you're on the cool end of that and I'm on the higher. If I can't find anything else that seems right I may give it a try anyway.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 5:33PM
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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

I haven't ordered from Gilbert Wilde, but I've seen their gardens. I wouldn't hesitate to order from them...but I suspect they won't ship till fall.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 12:21PM
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ryseryse_2004

Gilbert Wild definitely. Most of my hostas and peonies came from there. They have wonderful sales and the roots are large and healthy.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 2:58PM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

Disporum 'Night Heron'...
CMK

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 1:14PM
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ladychroe(z6 NJ)

Monarda?

I had some clematis that I grew on trellises in morning sun only. They didn't get huge in the 4 years I had them, but they did flower. I had Comtesse de Buchard (lavender) and Pink Flamingo (cream and pink bells). There was a purple too, but I forget which it was.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2014 at 1:52PM
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stfowler(6b)

Yes. They still have all the leaves on them. I've got them laid out all nice and neat. Totally won't forget them, just want to give them the best chance of survival.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 7:18PM
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paul_(z5 MI)

Assuming these were grown outdoors ....

If the roots are still in clumps of moist dirt, I'd plant them where you are going to grow them. Water to keep moist. As long as leaves are green, the bulbs are still in the "gathering energy" mode to store food for next year's flowers.

If the roots were rinsed off or the dirt on the roots has completely dried out so that the roots have dried up, then that pretty is it for the season. In that event, I'd follow the directions the gardens gave. However, whether to wait until October to plant is another Q.
1) Once the greenery has died off an the stems have been removed, you could give the bulbs a week or two longer to make sure the area from which the stems have come off the bulbs has dried. Then there is no reason you can't simply plant them then.
2) If you are considering planting a number of other bulbs in the Fall, it might be easier to wait so you can keep better track of what you planted where.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 9:51PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

We took off quite a few. .... What should I do? Could this beautiful bird be part of the cause of my lack of peaches.

==>>> its seems your lack of peaches.. was you picking a lot of them off???? ... why???

do try the fruit forum .... there are a multitude of reasons for crop failure ... include a harsh winter ... a frost or freeze that kills the flowers before they get pollinated ... reduced bee population.. etc ...

and perhaps even birds... but i think that reason is really stretching it ... but then i have never grown peach.. wherever you are ... with BOs around ... i can only speculate ...

ken

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 7:24AM
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gardenper(8)

If you keep your tree to a certain size, you might be able to put bird netting around it. Depending on how you set that up, you might be able to save some blooms and fruits.

I wonder if one of those fake owls nearby might scare the oriole(s) away?

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 1:18PM
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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

The more sun the better, for the most part. It's a glade/prairie plant. I've grown in western exposure and it doesn't perform nearly as well as full sun.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 8:16AM
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specialmn1

Thank you for your help and the photos, beautiful!
I think I will try to find a another spot in full sun...I'm running out of room!

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 9:20AM
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mxk3(Zone 6 SE MI)

Thanks! I will try the vinegar.

    Bookmark     May 4, 2014 at 7:29PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

and a stout wire brush with a handle ... something you can really scrub with ... rather than steel wool ...

DEPENDING on how thick the buildup is ... perhaps kevin is more on top of doing this every year ...

compared to me.. who would do it once a decade... or declare it a natural decoration on the pot.. lol ... and never do it...

ken

    Bookmark     May 5, 2014 at 7:19AM
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Ruth_MI(z5MI)

Rub a few between your fingers and see what they smell like. I guess i'm not 100% sure tiny seedlings already have a scent if they're Nepeta, but if they do, you'll have your ID!

I do this a lot when I'm unsure of new growth.

    Bookmark     May 4, 2014 at 9:49PM
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gardenweed_z6a

Another option is to check the stems. If they're square, chances are they're nepeta--my Walkers Low plants have square stems, which places them in the mint family along with monarda.

    Bookmark     May 4, 2014 at 10:47PM
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gardenweed_z6a

A few more bites of eye candy:

Winter sown Barlow columbine

WS lupine

WS Iberis/candytuft

Breezeway pot ghetto

    Bookmark     May 3, 2014 at 10:57AM
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SnailLover(5a MI)

Oh wow, what gorgeous pics! I can see why WS would be addictive. I'll have to look into this for next winter. My coworker gave me poppy seed pods last summer which I stored in the garage all winter. (Not sure if that counts as overwintering, lol) I think the mice all had turns at them. Maybe next year I'll get some more and try winter sowing. Yep, can definitely see this as being addictive!

    Bookmark     May 4, 2014 at 2:22PM
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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23 USDA 9)

Yep, that is a trencher chain! I don't think we owned a large trencher at the nursery/landscape business. It must have been from when my husband worked with a tree farm, and they replaced their trencher's chain. (I was busy raising a baby then, so we had moved away from self employment). It was probably sitting in the field for 25 years.

I have always liked adding root knots and twisted branches into my landscape. Acorn woodpecker storage graineries and nest holes were also something I have long wished we could import for the local Nuttall's woodpeckers. Unfortunately, I don't have a source near our home and I cannot safely transport that type of stuff from the nursery land in another county, because the oaks died from a disease/beetle infestation that could be spread. :(

    Bookmark     May 4, 2014 at 3:13AM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

-michey1st, forgot to reply to you earlier....BRILLIANT! I have some chicken wire hanging around here somewhere- might give that a try. Thanks ;-)
CMK

    Bookmark     May 4, 2014 at 12:16PM
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woodyoak zone 5 Canada(5b)

Probably Trillium erectum....It is a native wildflower but, unless your house was built in a wooded area, it was most likely planted - perhaps from wild stock from a nearby woods....? They will go dormant in the summer. If you want to move it, wait until it is dormant and then dig up the root, which looks vaguely bulb-like. If it's happy where it is, I'd be inclined to leave it rather than risk losing it in a move.

    Bookmark     May 3, 2014 at 4:47PM
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Lucky_Lad

Thanks Woody, here's a picture where it lives. If you want to really see it you have to wade through the lilacs to lift a flower. But they give it the shade it likes. I guess I'll leave it.
Laddie

    Bookmark     May 3, 2014 at 8:29PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

any such.. you use according to the label .. perhaps supplemented by the companies website ...

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: all links on that page are from the CO. website.... after the first advert

    Bookmark     April 29, 2014 at 9:06PM
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mzdee(6b)

Have you considered Milorganite? Of course there is no true deterrent besides buckshot for a hungry deer, this seems to work well for me. My prperty is not frnced but I did grow some veggies last summer with no issues. If nothing else it is a lot cheaper than other offerings and my Canas absolutely thrived on it.

    Bookmark     May 3, 2014 at 1:19PM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

Looks pretty healthy to me.

Brown leaf tips can be a sign of low humidity, but also could relate to other culture problems. Having older leaves turning yellow from time to time is normal.

Frequency of watering per week is not a good measure of sufficiency (or overwatering). Make sure the pot isn't sitting in water and that the soil a few inches down isn't staying soggy between waterings. Too much water or fertilizer or too small a pot could be a problem. These palms like at least a bright location, preferably at least a few hours of sun a day (moving them suddenly into full sun could cause leaf burning).

Good luck.

    Bookmark     May 3, 2014 at 11:11AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

you might also want to chime in the the houseplant forum .. and the palm forums ... if there is one ...

is that a very new leaf.. if so.. you might be over-watering ...

and the media in the pot behind.. looks awful peaty ... which further retains a lot of water ...

we dont do palms in MI ... but i see them in sand country ... and a peat media is just about the polar opposite of sand ...

so i suggest you look to your media also ...

ken

    Bookmark     May 3, 2014 at 12:11PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

I don't see a plant.

    Bookmark     May 3, 2014 at 1:23AM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

Could you hold it up closer?

    Bookmark     May 3, 2014 at 11:13AM
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santamiller(8b TX)

We've had more rain that you? Holy crap. You're in serious trouble! :) It's just pitiful here. Where exactly are you? We have a place in East Texas and they've had a ton of rain over the winter and spring. Sure wish we'd get some of it.

    Bookmark     May 3, 2014 at 8:48AM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

I am in the Hamilton Pool area north of Dripping Springs by 10 miles. We have had about 1.5" since The beginning of the year. We had healthy rains in November and then nada.

    Bookmark     May 3, 2014 at 9:05AM
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