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woodyswife(z5 OH)

I've got Glomerta Superba and although its pretty now and beautiful when it flowers in June it is terribly invasive--I'm afraid it's gonna strangle everything else in my bed. I don/t know how to control it short of tearing up the whole bed. Oh well--I should listen when people say a plant is invasive, but at least it's nice to look at.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 8:53AM
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gyr_falcon(Sunset 23 USDA 9)

I love the many campanulas; unfortunately, they are not fond our hot summers and die out after a year or three. C. poscharskyana is about the only one that toughs it out for many years, but it does not spread as quickly here as it does in other areas. I still give them garden space if I can grab some for reasonable prices for temp plants.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 12:20AM
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Karen Mickleson

Wow! Great work, tecklehound--neighbor. Thanks for your suggestions. I'll be looking them up. What is that grass in the lower right corner?

Also, I want to thank TexasRanger for the great, inspiring photo of the firecracker plant, which I must add to my mix.

Karen

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 11:46PM
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teckelhound(Z9 SF Bay)

The grass in the right lower corner is Uncinia uncinata, purchased at Annies. The plant pictured is 2 years old, and it has been a few years since I took this photo and the plant is the same size.

    Bookmark     April 23, 2014 at 12:09AM
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colorado_plantswoman

One of my best performers has been Nemesia.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 6:46PM
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flowergirl70ks

Pentas and lantana grow well together in large pots, with some kind of red grass in the middle.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 9:05PM
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brit5467(7b/8a Coastal VA)

THANKS!! didn't know. If I make it, will be my first one.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 9:03PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

I have seen lots of them in the woods of the Sandwich mountains in NH but not where I live here in Texas. I loved these when they would appear in spring and cool rainy times

    Bookmark     April 21, 2014 at 10:28PM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Great picture, I've only seen this once, when DH and I went for a walk around Newcastle Island here in B.C. one summer.

Annette

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 1:06PM
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gardenweed_z6a

I wouldn't give up on them so soon considering the extraordinarily harsh winter that is finally (grudgingly) loosening its grip. According to my garden notes, this year we're nearly 6 weeks behind where the garden was in 2012. I have new growth on many perennials but much later than I've seen in recent years.

If the plants were well established and protected from extreme conditions by a sizeable blanket of snow cover, chances are most will survive whatever Ma Nature throws at them.

Gardening (hopefully) teaches patience. Give them more time.

    Bookmark     April 20, 2014 at 8:05PM
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woodyswife(z5 OH)

Give em time. I thought mine were gone but are now greening up.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 8:57AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

I have a seedling that hasn't bloomed yet and I'm moving mine now, just because I keep wanting to move it and not getting around to it.

I think it depends on the weather in your case. If it is already getting hot by the time it finishes blooming you might want to wait for Fall, but if it's comfortable temperatures and the 7 day forecast looks good and you give it a lot of TLC, I'd say move it after blooming. I always dig a large rootball, water it in well and I cover mine with an overturned milk crate for about a week after moving.

    Bookmark     April 22, 2014 at 6:34AM
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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

I agree with jayco, find out where it's happy (as cheaply as possible), then add as needed.

    Bookmark     April 20, 2014 at 6:06PM
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TexasRanger10(7)

I just grow the annual kinds like that one above growing in beach sand. They are just getting ready to open right now, they have naturalized but not invasively so, They come up in fall, winter over, are very early bloom & they keep it up consistently until fall. It doesn't get easier, cheaper or more reliable than that. Sometimes I get solid yellow but others are various amounts of yellow on red.

I should add, I grow them dry, mean & lean, not moist, rich or pampered.

This post was edited by TexasRanger10 on Sun, Apr 20, 14 at 21:57

    Bookmark     April 20, 2014 at 9:44PM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

In my experience, 'Early Sunrise' does stay at around 18 inches or less.

Kevin

    Bookmark     April 20, 2014 at 10:06AM
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gardenweed_z6a

My 'Early Sunrise' plants were grown from seed via the winter sowing method which likely accounts for their additional height. My winter sown Siberian iris plants grow a full foot taller than those from a hothouse/garden nursery.

sara82lee - since Kevin confirmed the height of 'Early Sunrise' in his garden, please disregard the information I posted above regarding height. I'm glad the color and bloom time information was helpful.

Kevin - I wish my winter sown plants grew to less than 2 ft. since where I planted them (at the base of an oak tree) they sure look odd growing so tall!

    Bookmark     April 20, 2014 at 7:56PM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

Gee, you mean you don't live in the nice flat part of West Virginia? ;)

    Bookmark     April 19, 2014 at 7:50PM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

Ha, the nice flat part of WV. But even in the mountains there are open areas and then there are frost pockets--in a holler at the foot of a mountain that cold air just streams down on you. And as for that 20 degree night--I didn't cover the peas, up a couple of inches--who covers peas!!?? And they got bit pretty bad. Never, ever seen or heard of that.

    Bookmark     April 20, 2014 at 6:16AM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

I just love people who give a ⢠name to a wild plant. They even gave a Northwestern mountain name to a Texas southwestern plant. Way to go. I know it by O. speciosa var berlandierii. It grows wild around me and I like to place it on walls and let it roam in my grass (what wild grass that I have). I let it wander at will. Yes it gets into my garden , but , hey, I am not a neat gardener. If you are, rip it out now. It is a thug for a small garden and it will cover an area and look best when it is bloom and then , in Texas, it disappears after awhile. Google it up in DG and there are lots of comments evenly decided between positive and negative.

    Bookmark     April 18, 2014 at 7:43PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

This plants home ground is some pretty rangy thin soil. Some semi arid wildflowers when given good fertile ground and ample moisture will quickly die from such rich environments. This guy, on the otherhand does not die. it probably thinks it has died and gone to heaven. It has entered the land of milk and honey as far as it is concerned and morphed into a thug.

Mine normally stay somewhat contained, but I starve it. It gets nothing from me. It does go for the deeper dirt. It does not like my thin rocky gravelly dirt but likes the ground that has been effected by leaf litter and the deeper clay of the adobe soils over the thin rocky Brakett soils.

    Bookmark     April 19, 2014 at 11:29PM
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zzackey(8b GA)

Yes.

    Bookmark     April 19, 2014 at 12:39PM
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gardenweed_z6a

Yes--it'll send down roots and become its own separate plant.

    Bookmark     April 19, 2014 at 5:35PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

shade it somehow ...

i would have dont this on a rainy day ...

actually i cant even tell if this is indoors or outdoors... crikey ..

bag it to raise humidity if indoors..

ken

    Bookmark     April 19, 2014 at 4:55PM
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gardenweed_z6a

I'll add my vote to the "leave it alone and see what happens" suggestion. Plants generally adjust themselves to the conditions in which they're grown.

    Bookmark     April 19, 2014 at 5:33PM
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katob Z6ish, NE Pa

I would think thats the reason. It's really sad since usually the nicest plants are the ones most likely to rot. Maybe the stems are too thick and juicy and when they freeze all that moisture causes the stems to burst open.... They always seem to die from the center out, not from the edges in as you might think from too much cold.
My best plants usually self seed around August, depending on when they get enough rain to germinate.

    Bookmark     October 8, 2013 at 6:39PM
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garystpaul(4)

I just took off the thick but loose layer of shredded dry leaves I used to cover plants in my cold frame and I was surprised to see that all of the 'Red Skin' digitalis survived our unusually bitter winter. Now, whether I can plant them out and bring them into bloom is another matter, but I'm optimistic.

Being something of a foxglove fanatic, I'm constantly trying them. Many is the time I've had the experience of others up North, that the overwintered plants either don't make it or rot during the first weeks of spring, even when overwintered in a cold frame. This year, I kept the covers on, onto which I'd piled evergreen boughs, and just now got around to removing the boughs and the mulch. I suspect my momentary success has to do with the careful watering in fall (not too much) and holding them until now.

We'll see.

Thank you for your responses last year.

Gary

    Bookmark     April 19, 2014 at 1:28PM
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TulsaRose (Rosie)(7a)

"Barrington Belle" was developed by Carl G. Klehm so I would trust the images found at Klehm's Song Sparrow website. Have you considered returning the plant to the garden center?

Here is a link that might be useful: Carl G. Klehm

    Bookmark     April 19, 2014 at 6:10AM
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WendyB(5A/MA)

Yeah, I do trust the images at Klehm's, that's what concerns me. I sent the garden center an email asking if I could return it after it blooms if it is not close to the picture. No response as yet.

I think I probably will return it anyhow and just be patient til bloom time and then go shopping. Seems to be much more evidence it is red than pink.

    Bookmark     April 19, 2014 at 9:21AM
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