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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Another snowdrop lover here, I have 5 different varieties but only know what one is for sure 'ikariae'. One double, one very tall, one not quite so tall and the little common one make up the rest of what I have. One day I'll sit down and peruse Judy's Snowdrops and see if I can sort them out. I'd love to see a picture of yours, growing in drifts must be a glorious sight.
The drifts of English Bluebell you have over there are so very beautiful, I've finally managed to get them going, just a pitiful 5 or 6 but it's a start. Spanish Bluebells grow like weeds here, in fact they are hard to get rid of once you've got them, but those elusive little English Bluebells I can only wish.

Annette

    Bookmark     March 4, 2014 at 11:12AM
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katob Z6ish, NE Pa

Great story and great find. I bet subduing the brambles or at least making an attempt at it will go far in making your woods more snowdrop friendly. Before you know it you'll be shooing away early spring snowdrop tours!
I'd love to see pictures too :)

    Bookmark     March 5, 2014 at 12:18PM
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jujujojo_gw(6b 7a)

Maybe

    Bookmark     March 5, 2014 at 9:53AM
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grandmamaloy(7)

Hi,

I have a friend who grows leafy spurge and it seems to thrive...with competition and with very little care. (I live in zone 7) I wish I had a place to plant it! There are annual varieties, but I'm talking about the perennial type that is a perennial in zones 4 to 9. It's hard to decide if the blossoms or the fall color is more beautiful to see.

Here is a link that might be useful: Leafy perennial spurge

    Bookmark     March 5, 2014 at 10:38AM
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gardenweed_z6a

You've received good information from the above posters. FWIW, my own Buddleia/butterfly bushes were grown from seed via winter sowing. Seed germination appeared to be nearly 100% so the seeds on the cultivar B. davidii. 'Black Knight' at least are viable.

My winter sown plants are growing in full sun as well as part sun and have, since 2010, achieved a height of not more than 7 ft. each season. I prune them in March every year, cutting the stems down to 10 inches or less. The spread of each is not more than 5 ft.

A named cultivar will seldom have blooms of more than one color which would suggest some computer-enhanced view of the buddleia in your photo. Since my own plants were grown from seed, the blooms are all consistently, uniformly lavender but no less attractive to pollinators from what I've observed.

More important in my view & experience is that Buddleia is not bothered by any pests and needs no supplemental nutrients or moisture in order to thrive in my garden beds. I especially appreciate "plant it, enjoy it, forget it" perennials.

    Bookmark     March 2, 2014 at 8:01PM
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Ashlie Neevel

Thanks UK for the definition.

Thank you gardenweed also for your reply. I appreciate all the input.

    Bookmark     March 5, 2014 at 5:11AM
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dandy_line(3B (Brainerd, Mn))

R. hirta is easily grown in the baggy, or out of the baggy. No need to mess around on the easy things. Look how eager the species is to multiply in the garden.

    Bookmark     March 3, 2014 at 7:30PM
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twrosz

"I've had good germination of numerous types of Rudbeckias through routine planting in sterile grow-mix - no need for baggies, filters etc." ... indeed, just surface sow these upon a good quality starting mixture and keep covered to maintain moisture until seedlings are up and running ... they're sooo easy!

Terrance

    Bookmark     March 5, 2014 at 12:24AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

even for TN.. arent you a bit early on the spring fever thing???

has anything actually started growing????

ken

    Bookmark     March 3, 2014 at 5:01PM
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gardenapprentice

Hydrangeas buds are breaking' maples have their reddish flowers and buds are breaking on most trees and shrubs we have mid 60s and upper 50s

    Bookmark     March 4, 2014 at 11:57AM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

I haven't seen a plumbago "Delft" offered for sale. The ones available here and when I lived in Texas were all pale blue - nice enough, but not the rich, deep blue that people most crave.

Evolvulus also falls into the "nice enough" category, no show-stopper though.

This year I am growing these two in my anatomically correct garden.

    Bookmark     March 2, 2014 at 10:33AM
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garyfla_gw(10 Florida)

Hi
Plumbago is also available in red and white and a blue with white edges.. I find these are not nearly as vigorous
The "delft" is definitely worth looking for . Another favorite of mine is the so called "Blue Pea vine the double looks like miniature roses and is a very deep blue . To my eye not a trace of purple All time favorite is a very sky blue tropical water lily produces semi double flowers 14 inches accross standing two feet out of the water!! The anthurs are a strong purple though and the nectary is bright yellow Another is pacific blue delphinium glorious for a short time but can't handle the florida heat lol gary

    Bookmark     March 3, 2014 at 6:44AM
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charlie-ia

thanks Ken. I think ive posted a blank post somewhere too. I posted this in the europe section, and hybridising.
I cant find any evidence that it is propagation protected, and think it should be easy to propagate by division. I bought 10 roots from a wholesale place by mail order in the autumn and they didnt mention it being protected. I did intend to commercialy propagate it, yes.
Havent seen it flower yet, but its supposed to have extra large flowers.
My reason for the questions was mostly that I Thought it would be nice to try to cross it with some other herbaceous potentillas. a bit of background info might save some work. DG says "may be sterile or may not come true from seed" but most hybrids dont come true anyway.
The web seems just to repeat the bit about it having big flowers on various catalogue pages from different firms.
Thanks, Charlie

    Bookmark     March 2, 2014 at 4:18PM
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charlie-ia

darwin plants certainly do it. Sorry for the multiple postings. Im doing something wrong.

    Bookmark     March 2, 2014 at 4:35PM
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sammyholderman

Yep, this definitely looks like Firewitch. Dianthus, especially Firewitch, can bloom from mid spring through late summer and even into fall in some climates, so I don't think you forced it, as much as you probably just gave it the nutrition you needed. Good job!

Here is a link that might be useful: Firewitch Picture

    Bookmark     February 27, 2014 at 12:39PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

cathey123 - It's usually better to start a new thread to get good answers to your question instead of adding on to another - less confusing since the photos don't relate to your variety.

Do Dianthus bloom spring through summer? It depends since Dianthus is a somewhat varied genus. My D. Greystone blooms just in spring, but has nice gray-green foliage that is tidy and decorative much of the rest of the year. D. barbatus, AKA sweet William blooms in the summer here, and is a biennial or short-lived perennial. I haven't grown D. Firewitch, but several folks above say that it repeats, and I know some of the small carnation-shaped Dianthus bloom through at least part of the summer.

    Bookmark     February 28, 2014 at 11:02PM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

-Gale, they do self sow a bit. I had the occasional one pop up back when I was giving them a try. In more ideal conditions you may find they seed a bit more...
CMK

    Bookmark     February 28, 2014 at 10:27PM
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gdjcb

CMK,
Thanks again, I will have to give a couple of each a try.

Gale

    Bookmark     February 28, 2014 at 10:48PM
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saturn1956(6)

I have found Sooner Plant farm also sell them at a more reasonable price. Don't know much about them but anyone looking for this plant check them out.

Saturn

    Bookmark     February 28, 2014 at 9:52AM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

Before buying from Wayside, I'd read up on Garden Watchdog. I haven't had good experiences with them.

IME many vendors don't ship larger sizes because shipping that much weight & size is expensive. As Gary said, local vendors are much more likely to carry larger sizes. For what its worth, I have planted a good number of small hydrangeas that came mail order in small pots since I live in a rural area with not a huge amount of choice of plants and nurseries. IME they grew quickly, much faster than other types of shrubs, and within a couple of years were good sized shrubs, so you might want to consider smaller sizes if you can be patient.

    Bookmark     February 28, 2014 at 6:37PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

Disregard this post. The California forum gave me answers.

==>>> well?? .. what was the answer???

ken

    Bookmark     February 28, 2014 at 11:50AM
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Suzi AKA DesertDance So CA Zone 9b

Ken,

They suggested bugs or disease, so I am going to put a couple leaves in a zip lock and take it to my local nursery to get their expert opinion.

Suzi

    Bookmark     February 28, 2014 at 12:01PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

i put 100% generic round up [which is 41%] .. into the very expensive applicator at the link ...

and drip single drips on offending leaves and/or crowns.. etc ..

and walk away ...

when they start to shrivel in a few days... you can rip them out if you wish.. and the desiccating roots will lose hold on the earth ...

the pure product can be returned to the labeled container... or marked appropriately.. and not stored by the hot dogs ... lol ..

somethings really has to be pissing me off.. to do this... but its surprising.. how many times it happens ... and its usually tree seedlings.. which are impossible to pull out.. by the time i see them a few years later .... snip at the ground and one drip on the cut stump ...

no one ever said.. round up can only be sprayed ...

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link

    Bookmark     February 26, 2014 at 8:09AM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

Well then I guess this is an almost universal annoyance rather than just my personal pet-peeve, lol!

-ngraham, interesting about the TL coreopsis. Didn't know it was so easy to root from stem cuttings!

-campanula, kinda' depresses me too for some reason. Guess starting the season off by doing such disliked chores casts a bit of a gloom on it. Which reminds me I still have to divide those mammoth daylily clumps this year. I already loath the idea, lol! As you can tell, dividing (/digging up large plants in general) is not something I enjoy!

-Ken, cool. Glad to know that method of direct application of killer to the offending plant works without harming the other plant. Now all I need is a steady hand, lol.

Ha ha! This is totally OT, but your "hot dog" comment jogged my memory about a recent event.

Last week (when it was sunny AND snowless) I went for a long walk. I had rounded a corner and was looking at a large and garish house when I noticed they had a lot of little dogs including some wiener-dogs. The gate (which was conveniently open) had a sign which read "dogs bite". I quickly backtracked and took a different route, thinking that nothing would be worse than having "bitten by a wiener" on a medical report.

Well I think you found the worst one with your hot dog vendor scenario. An obituary saying "death by lethal wiener" would undoubtedly trump mine! LOL.
CMK

    Bookmark     February 26, 2014 at 1:41PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

V. 'Georgia Blue' winters over just fine here, so I imagine yours is just fine. I don't cut it back - the dead leaves drop and new ones form. Here's mine in May without having been trimmed.
From May, 2011

    Bookmark     February 24, 2014 at 10:25AM
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lincann

Thanks all ~ can always count on Gardenweb friends to talk me down off the ledge ! Sure miss the mass of blue this time of year, but just knowing it's not dead is worth missing a season of bloom. Thanks again.

    Bookmark     February 25, 2014 at 11:42AM
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echinaceamaniac(7)

Ice plant is a common name that could be anything. If you are talking about Delosperma, some will survive winter outside better than others. If grown inside, a simple shop light is enough to keep them alive through winter. I even root cuttings in winter of the ones I want more of.

    Bookmark     February 23, 2014 at 12:01AM
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dbarron(z7_Arkansas)

The original Delosperma cooperii always did really well wintering small cuttings for me. It'd be a pretty husky plant by spring and ready to flower.

    Bookmark     February 23, 2014 at 8:11AM
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themaryrice

yeah but they are not available in all the sizes when I checked and this site I found has all of them! :)

    Bookmark     February 17, 2014 at 3:51PM
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dowlinggram

I can buy a lot of Velcro tape for the price of these supports. I use it with the single stem supports and bamboo poles.

I thread it through the single stem loop and around the plant and stick the ends together. They hold back a surprising amount of weight and are soft on the plants. With bamboo poles I partly put a staple in and run my tape through the staple. Both poles and the tape are reusable. I have used the same tape for 4 years in a row. In the fall I gather it up all and store in a plastic container

At 3 or 4 dollars a roll I can do all my tyingup and still have plenty on the roll.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/45-ft-Plant-Tie-91384/202261952

    Bookmark     February 21, 2014 at 1:52PM
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