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I haven't seen a plumbago "Delft" offered for sale. The ones available here and when I lived in Texas were all pale blue - nice enough, but not the rich, deep blue that people most crave.

Evolvulus also falls into the "nice enough" category, no show-stopper though.

This year I am growing these two in my anatomically correct garden.

Hi
Plumbago is also available in red and white and a blue with white edges.. I find these are not nearly as vigorous
The "delft" is definitely worth looking for . Another favorite of mine is the so called "Blue Pea vine the double looks like miniature roses and is a very deep blue . To my eye not a trace of purple All time favorite is a very sky blue tropical water lily produces semi double flowers 14 inches accross standing two feet out of the water!! The anthurs are a strong purple though and the nectary is bright yellow Another is pacific blue delphinium glorious for a short time but can't handle the florida heat lol gary

thanks Ken. I think ive posted a blank post somewhere too. I posted this in the europe section, and hybridising.
I cant find any evidence that it is propagation protected, and think it should be easy to propagate by division. I bought 10 roots from a wholesale place by mail order in the autumn and they didnt mention it being protected. I did intend to commercialy propagate it, yes.
Havent seen it flower yet, but its supposed to have extra large flowers.
My reason for the questions was mostly that I Thought it would be nice to try to cross it with some other herbaceous potentillas. a bit of background info might save some work. DG says "may be sterile or may not come true from seed" but most hybrids dont come true anyway.
The web seems just to repeat the bit about it having big flowers on various catalogue pages from different firms.
Thanks, Charlie

darwin plants certainly do it. Sorry for the multiple postings. Im doing something wrong.

Yep, this definitely looks like Firewitch. Dianthus, especially Firewitch, can bloom from mid spring through late summer and even into fall in some climates, so I don't think you forced it, as much as you probably just gave it the nutrition you needed. Good job!

Here is a link that might be useful: Firewitch Picture

cathey123 - It's usually better to start a new thread to get good answers to your question instead of adding on to another - less confusing since the photos don't relate to your variety.

Do Dianthus bloom spring through summer? It depends since Dianthus is a somewhat varied genus. My D. Greystone blooms just in spring, but has nice gray-green foliage that is tidy and decorative much of the rest of the year. D. barbatus, AKA sweet William blooms in the summer here, and is a biennial or short-lived perennial. I haven't grown D. Firewitch, but several folks above say that it repeats, and I know some of the small carnation-shaped Dianthus bloom through at least part of the summer.

-Gale, they do self sow a bit. I had the occasional one pop up back when I was giving them a try. In more ideal conditions you may find they seed a bit more...
CMK

CMK,
Thanks again, I will have to give a couple of each a try.

Gale

I have found Sooner Plant farm also sell them at a more reasonable price. Don't know much about them but anyone looking for this plant check them out.

Saturn

Before buying from Wayside, I'd read up on Garden Watchdog. I haven't had good experiences with them.

IME many vendors don't ship larger sizes because shipping that much weight & size is expensive. As Gary said, local vendors are much more likely to carry larger sizes. For what its worth, I have planted a good number of small hydrangeas that came mail order in small pots since I live in a rural area with not a huge amount of choice of plants and nurseries. IME they grew quickly, much faster than other types of shrubs, and within a couple of years were good sized shrubs, so you might want to consider smaller sizes if you can be patient.

i put 100% generic round up [which is 41%] .. into the very expensive applicator at the link ...

and drip single drips on offending leaves and/or crowns.. etc ..

and walk away ...

when they start to shrivel in a few days... you can rip them out if you wish.. and the desiccating roots will lose hold on the earth ...

the pure product can be returned to the labeled container... or marked appropriately.. and not stored by the hot dogs ... lol ..

somethings really has to be pissing me off.. to do this... but its surprising.. how many times it happens ... and its usually tree seedlings.. which are impossible to pull out.. by the time i see them a few years later .... snip at the ground and one drip on the cut stump ...

no one ever said.. round up can only be sprayed ...

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link

Well then I guess this is an almost universal annoyance rather than just my personal pet-peeve, lol!

-ngraham, interesting about the TL coreopsis. Didn't know it was so easy to root from stem cuttings!

-campanula, kinda' depresses me too for some reason. Guess starting the season off by doing such disliked chores casts a bit of a gloom on it. Which reminds me I still have to divide those mammoth daylily clumps this year. I already loath the idea, lol! As you can tell, dividing (/digging up large plants in general) is not something I enjoy!

-Ken, cool. Glad to know that method of direct application of killer to the offending plant works without harming the other plant. Now all I need is a steady hand, lol.

Ha ha! This is totally OT, but your "hot dog" comment jogged my memory about a recent event.

Last week (when it was sunny AND snowless) I went for a long walk. I had rounded a corner and was looking at a large and garish house when I noticed they had a lot of little dogs including some wiener-dogs. The gate (which was conveniently open) had a sign which read "dogs bite". I quickly backtracked and took a different route, thinking that nothing would be worse than having "bitten by a wiener" on a medical report.

Well I think you found the worst one with your hot dog vendor scenario. An obituary saying "death by lethal wiener" would undoubtedly trump mine! LOL.
CMK

V. 'Georgia Blue' winters over just fine here, so I imagine yours is just fine. I don't cut it back - the dead leaves drop and new ones form. Here's mine in May without having been trimmed.
From May, 2011

Thanks all ~ can always count on Gardenweb friends to talk me down off the ledge ! Sure miss the mass of blue this time of year, but just knowing it's not dead is worth missing a season of bloom. Thanks again.

Ice plant is a common name that could be anything. If you are talking about Delosperma, some will survive winter outside better than others. If grown inside, a simple shop light is enough to keep them alive through winter. I even root cuttings in winter of the ones I want more of.

The original Delosperma cooperii always did really well wintering small cuttings for me. It'd be a pretty husky plant by spring and ready to flower.

yeah but they are not available in all the sizes when I checked and this site I found has all of them! :)

I can buy a lot of Velcro tape for the price of these supports. I use it with the single stem supports and bamboo poles.

I thread it through the single stem loop and around the plant and stick the ends together. They hold back a surprising amount of weight and are soft on the plants. With bamboo poles I partly put a staple in and run my tape through the staple. Both poles and the tape are reusable. I have used the same tape for 4 years in a row. In the fall I gather it up all and store in a plastic container

At 3 or 4 dollars a roll I can do all my tyingup and still have plenty on the roll.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/45-ft-Plant-Tie-91384/202261952

hi
Check out the family Alocasia colocasia homolomena
There are ast least 150 different kinds ranging from a foot to well over 10 feet, from green to variagated to black to bronze ,spotted splotched . with stripes I'm particularly fond of the blacks with silver veins or apple green with white veins You can get evergreen , summer dormant, winter dormant Have been getting into the so-called "jewel alocasia " which are unreal but delicate and expensive Aroids are my favorite family.
Might mention "borneo giant " gets leaves in excess of 5x12 feet lol makes a great house plant lol gary

I grow EE in very large pots in part-shade on the patio. They get quite large leaves. But, yea - gotta keep them moist, moist, moist!

This year 2 good examples in my garden are Pelargoniums and Fuchsias. We have had no frosts near the house and consequently both are still flowering into the New Year. It looks as if I'm going to have Fuchsias and daffodils out together this February. But, as Daisy and Ken say, the summer stragglers are not exactly in peak condition given the lack of sunshine and quantities of rain we've had.

Many plants grown as 'annuals' in some climates are perennial in their native habitats, so they'll just keep going if they don't get a freeze.

This post was edited by floral_uk on Sat, Feb 8, 14 at 5:01

Hi
I really have never gardened anywhere BUT zone 10 ??
Do have a bit of experience with light frost and a couple of hard freezes over the years . I grow mostly tropicals for this reason. If a plant is adapted to cold temps it usually MUSt have them . Eventually it will decline though sometimes it may take a couple of years . i can grow some temperate plants but mostly as winter annuals.. Much depends on night time lows ,humidity
Generally I've found that Tropicals are far more tolerant of cold than temperates are to heat though.
Some good examples Agapanthus ,Hydrandea ,High altitude orchids almost all temperate fruit trees Bearded Iris tulips daffodils, and most other spring bulbs
gary

Like I said these are probably 20/30 years old and I doubt they have been touched for the past 10 years. So they have been living in the wild.

Beautiful! You might want to contact Kermit of Flowers by the Sea nursery in Elk, Calif. He specializes in salvia and other plants for hummingbirds and should know your climate. I bought Salvia guaranitica âÂÂAmistadâ from him last spring, a purple salvia that was a hot new item from Argentina and reportedly favored by hummingbirds.

My hummers liked Salvia guaranitica âÂÂVan Remsen,â which grew 7 ft tall. The kind of hummers that I got liked the height. Kermit should be able to help you with plants favored by the type of hummers and butterflies in your area.

âÂÂVan Remsenâ is a natural hybrid from the backyard of Dr. James Van Remsen, ornithologist at LSU Baton Rouge, blue in the shade, violet or purplish blue when it gets a lot of sun. I notice that Kermit carries it. A tall salvia at each end of your flowerbed might be nice with short dark purple spikes of another salvia in front of the bergenia. Sorry, I don't know enough about conditions to be of any real help. And a certain amount of sun in California might be quite different from the same amount elsewhere. Good luck!

I can't get these links to work, GW may be backing up right now.
Flowers by the Sea nursery, note listings that say attract both hummingbirds and butterflies, but double check on what is favored by your particular kind of hummers and types of butterflies:
http://www.fbts.com
GW has an excellent forum called Butterfly Gardens, wonderful FAQ with plants listed as host and nectar:
http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/butterfly
Regional guides for butterfly gardening:
http://www.nababutterfly.com/guide_index.html

This post was edited by river_crossroads on Wed, Feb 19, 14 at 22:13

I have Angelina. Your description of yours sounds like that is what you have. Mine hasn't spread itself around much at all. It is in a remote bed that gets swamped in spring snow melt or any time it rains for more than a couple hours. Maybe that keeps it in check.

My guess would be Angelina as well. Depending upon the amount of light it gets, it can look more lime green than gold in the spring and summer, but puts on wonderful fall color!

Here's a photo and some growing information. Hope this helps. Also look at Autumn Charm. It does not grow as low but has really nice fall color too.

Here is a link that might be useful: Angelina Sedum