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laceyvail(6A, WV)

My 'Ozawa' have come and gone.

    Bookmark     September 26, 2013 at 6:27AM
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rouge21_gw(5)

UPDATE:

Just yesterday I was able to pick up several small but well rooted "Ozawa".

    Bookmark     September 28, 2013 at 8:09AM
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bugbite(z9a FL)

Thanks Rosie,
I haven't purchased a guara for many years. All that I have grown lately have self seeded and they are very unpredictable. I saved seed found the best plants in the past and they never came up like the mother plant.
I don't fertilize this plant. And the soil in this spot is not really improved.
It has a side spout which is lying near the ground. Don't want to lift it for fear that it might crack off.
I will tell Bobalu that you said he was gorgeous. Actually, I will use the word "handsome". He's a little sensitive about that. :-)

    Bookmark     September 26, 2013 at 2:05PM
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emmarene

Wow! is right. I love it.

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 7:50PM
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gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)

Blue looks like hardy plumbago, Ceratostigma plumbaginoides.

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 5:36PM
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CottageintheCity

That's it! You guys rock! Thank you!

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 5:46PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

i have ..not very often .. tricked a z6 into living over winter for a year or two ... in a perfect micro climate ...

i highly doubt you will have any luck tricking mother nature into 2 or 3 zones ...

google propagation of such.. and see if you cant take a couple small pieces off the side.. rather than digging up a huge plant ...

in other words.. try to over winter it.. but cut your odds....

in the alternative... you are basically going to have to pay the bucks.. and grow a perennial as an annual ... of which.. many of our annuals actually are ...

ken

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 7:23AM
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kfless(5)

Ken,

I appreciate the advice of taking some, rather than, all of it from the yard. I hadn't thought of it. I really didn't expect it to grow so much in 2.5 months.

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 10:37AM
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rouge21_gw(5)

I know these two really don't go together but it is as it is.

An unnamed aster (nepalenis?) and Oenothera "Lemon Drop".

    Bookmark     September 26, 2013 at 6:16AM
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river_crossroads z8b Central Louisiana

My combo is Salvia guaranitica âÂÂVan Remsenâ and Tradescantia pallida âÂÂPurple Heart,â the purple foliage planted along the wall in the picture that has a pinkish purple flower.

The salvia is blue in the shade but turns violet blue or purple in the sun, grows to 7 ft tall and has been blooming for 4 months. Hummingbirds love it. Picture taken 9/21/13.

    Bookmark     September 27, 2013 at 8:44AM
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gardenweed_z6a

RyseRyse_2004 - prior to the most recent adjustment to USDA hardiness zones I was Z5 and my hellebores were already planted in my garden beds when I took this picture a couple of winters ago where my hellebores were growing:

That's my front lawn. I'm guessing all that snow melted & made my hellebores really happy because they've more than doubled in size since. I'm also guessing they might have been in bloom under the snow but chances are they didn't really bloom until most of that melted. I could be wrong but am guessing it's a preference thing--I love anything that blooms so having these blooms so early in the season is a welcome sight.

amy1717 - thanks for the tip about the free photo site. I'll be sure to check it out.

I sailed aboard the schooner 'Nathaniel Bowditch' every summer for 30 years (check out the link). The ship was built in East Boothbay, Maine in 1922. Also sailed with her for Sail Boston 2000 and again in 2007. Fell in love with sailing after doing a couple Outward Bound sailing challenges in Maine.

Would enjoy a pic of your boat if you have one. Some friends I met aboard the Bowditch have a 50 ft. boat down on the Chesapeake.

Sorry I'm not yet on Facebook.

I could sure give you hosta divisions if we were closer--had to divide quite a few of my designer plants when they were close to a decade growing where I planted them. We've had so much rain this season they're most of them twice their normal size. Ye gods!!!

Would be happy to give you divisions once the weather cools if you're willing to pay the shipping.

Here is a link that might be useful: Schooner Nathaniel Bowditch

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 10:52PM
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amy1717(TX 9)

gardenweed - First off, WOW, that's a lot of snow! Hard to imagine anything blooming under all that, but who would know? Glad to see some of your photos -- they're beautiful! What lovely color in that bloom.

Too bad you're not on FB yet -- don't want to go off on a sailing tangent here, but will post the link to our online blog from the 2007 trip, which has probably more photos of us & our boat than anyone cares to see. Ours looks like a dinghy compared to the Bowditch!! I'll have to show that one to my other half, good inspiration for our next great adventure :)

Out of curiosity, what part of CT are you in? My aunt & uncle live there, near Willimantic, and Mom did for some years before coming back to TX, so I got to spend a few vacations up there in the '90s. Beautiful area -- I loved discovering Indian Pipes and all the wild ferns in the woodlands behind her house.

Might take you up on those divisions -- do they ship well? Let me know when that's a possibility!

This post was edited by amy1717 on Fri, Oct 4, 13 at 0:31

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 11:26PM
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gardenweed_z6a

HAHA I'd pay to see Ken scream like a girl !!

Wouldn't we all?

    Bookmark     September 24, 2013 at 8:18PM
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Karolina11(6b Central PA)

Definitely agreeing with the above!

Kevin, I would have never even imagined raccoons going after pond fish! Learn something new everyday. What size tank do you keep them in indoors?

Karin, my aunt keeps talking about how we should grow and can some vegetables. I've never done it because I just know I would forget something with so many steps! Glad you were able to retrieve them without hurting themselves!

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 8:23PM
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gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)

I think a lot will depend on its flowering condition :-)) Mums sold for fall color tend to be very heavily budded - best to purchase them in bud rather than bloom as the flowers tend to go over rapidly. But the development of the buds into flowers is certainly stimulated by sunlight. Excessive shade may very well stunt or abort the flowering.

So you've got this choice to make - a heavily budded plant that may not fully develop its flowering potential in that much shade or one already into its flowering cycle that may not produce for as long as you like (IME, a ready-to-go mum lasts about 2-3 weeks max in bloom).

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 1:57PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

yep.. i would pick one.. with one single flower open... to confirm color ...

and enjoy it for a month ...

but i still would not repot it ...

ken

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 7:16PM
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susanzone5(z5NY)

Those kinds of lilies are always alive and can be replanted at any time. Just don't store them. They need to be underground as soon as possible.

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 6:27PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

if they are selling them at the stores for october planting...

one might surmise... that you can do it...

yes.. it would be better if they werent green.. but if you dont do it now.. lets be honest.... will it ever get done.. lol ...

i would leave the green attached.. so i replanted at the same depth.. and cut it off in a few weeks when it browns..

or if you leave them.. it will remind you in spring.. where you put them.. so you dont plant annuals over them.. been there.. done that.. lol

ken

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 7:15PM
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bugbite(z9a FL)

You are so right. Wasps, not bees.
As wrong as it is, I call anything that has a stinger a bee.
If I get lucky enough to get a honey bee which is rare, I brag that I saw a honey bee. Again that is probably the wrong word, but I am too old to care.
Now when one of the many bumble bees that are around here in the spring landed on my wife's pants leg and then she bought it in the house (unknowingly) and then she sat on it and the stinger shot into her leg.... Well, she called that bee by a different name, which I can't print here. :-)

Here is a link that might be useful: Bee clothing

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 3:16PM
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terrene(5b MA)

So many things eat the milkweed in my garden that I am lucky if the Butterflies can have enough leaves to support them. Hasn't happened, yet.

Yes, milkweed does seem to attract a panoply of insects - not to mention the occasional critter that chomps it down. This is why I regularly patrol mine and either squish or banish all insects. The lady bugs and occasional spider get tossed into another garden, but most get squished. I like insects, but since my property is a Monarch waystation, I raise and tag Monarchs (didn't see any this year unfortunately), and I collect seed, I want the foliage and seedpods to be healthy. The Monarchs are welcome, but the other bugs not so welcome.

Edited to add: this doesn't include flowers! all pollinators are welcome on those.

This post was edited by terrene on Wed, Sep 25, 13 at 18:57

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 6:56PM
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ninamarie(4Ont.)

They are a gorgeous shot of red and easy to grow. I put mine in full sun in a non-irrigated, non-fertilized garden with good drainage. No problem with overwintering or blooming, but the plant is only a year old in the garden, so I'm not sure how long it blooms once mature. They bloom easily in pots and would likely be good container plants.
In the meantime, what is BBS?

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 9:59AM
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paul_(z5 MI)

BBS = Big Box Store (places like Lowes, Home Depot, etc)

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 2:04PM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

It should regrow OK. Increase your husbands allowance on condition he does his own mowing. Al

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 9:58AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

or... move it from the base of a maple ...

or build a proper bed for plants...

why is there grass right up to the trunk of a maple with a fern in the middle of it..

in defense of hubby... sounds like a bed would have stopped him ...

and i apologize if there is a bed.. and he still couldnt help himself ...

ken

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 12:12PM
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gardenweed_z6a

According to my notes, where I am B. australis normally blooms sometime in May rather than later in the growing season.

I would love to add plenty more Baptisia in my garden but thanks to winter sowing, my beds are pretty much chock-a-block full of perennials I grew from seed.

    Bookmark     September 24, 2013 at 8:12PM
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Nancy zone 6(6b)

The blue baptisia australis I have blooms in April/early May. Maybe I've got some kind of new cross :) Last year when it bloomed so very late, I thought it was just because it was 1st year's bloom, & it had been a crazy hot June. When it behaved the same way this year, I decided it must be the norm for the plant.

    Bookmark     September 25, 2013 at 7:13AM
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ryseryse_2004

I love the dark leaves but my main question is, does it re-seed all over the place? The other perennial hibiscus do and it is starting to get annoying.

    Bookmark     September 24, 2013 at 10:45AM
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boday

I can't really tell about the reseeding as I planted mine this spring. But the bloom color is so rich and the plant as a whole is so striking, that it becomes the focal point and effectively the rest of the flower bed becomes support for the plant. Between that and the palm leaves of the castor bean next door, it's tropical.

I almost hear the tinkle of "Pearly Shells"

Now someone on here mentioned pinching the plant back, to produce more stems, which I'll do next year. Should increase the number of blooms.

    Bookmark     September 24, 2013 at 9:01PM
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Nevermore44 - 6a

All the standard form white blooming echs seem to do well for the most part. So if you like it more then white swan.... i say go for it.

    Bookmark     September 23, 2013 at 4:41PM
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diggerdee zone 6 CT

mxk, I've been hoping someone responds. I did buy this a year or two back from Bluestone, and really loved it. I never got it planted out, though, and lost it over the winter in its little two-inch pot. I've been debating whether to try it again, so I was hoping someone with more experience with it woud chime in.

It was a beautiful, crisp white bloom, with nice green centers, and the petals seemed to be more rigid than White Swan. I really did like it, and may give it another shot.

Sorry I can't be of more help!
Dee

    Bookmark     September 23, 2013 at 10:03PM
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