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ugly leaves.. and ugly plants.. in late august.. never bother me ...
as the sun declines .. the plants start declining.. especially those that peaked in spring ...
it often comes down to you deciding they are pissin you off.. and getting rid of them for something else.. rather than solving the mystery ...
what marl said.. if your pix are on your hard drive.. if not.. then you will need some other advice about your fancy gizmo ... what is the gizmo.. and i bet someone will know and advise ...
ken



Love this plant! Unfortunately it is biennial (or sometimes a short lived perennial). I grew mine from seed but the plants did not set seed. Maybe not enough warmth to get good seed set? The smell of the flowers is very peculiar, reminds my of ecoline (some kind of ink). In my garden the flowers attract not only bees, wasps and bumblebees but also a lot of flies.




I was feeling quite smug back in 2009 when I dug out the burdock, root and all. Last summer I noticed a little one, and ignored it. This year, I have been punished with about 12 more of these plants, all bigger and taller than the original. One of them has grown up through my Japanese Maple, and is about 8 ft high, lol. I suppose I'll try vinegar and then Round-Up this time. Sounds like it's worth smuggling across the border into Canada. I had a good chuckle at a lot of the comments on this very old thread - enjoy :)

Nice plant.
I have Rudbeckia "Viette's Little Suzy" which is more compact than "Goldsturm", but tends to sprawl if you don't stake it.
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...No I don't think so peren.all.... it gives me the opportunity to plant something else instead.... I haven't the time or space to put up with plants that underperform.... which is such a shame as it's not something I enjoy doing really....but I would need a huge garden for all my discards over the years....

Just reread this post about persicaria and thought I would add my experience to date with Painters Palette. I have had this in my gardens for 10 years? Maybe longer and have moved it around quite a bit. I have found here that it does the best with less than 5-6 hours of sun. It really appreciates a decent amount of shade. It looks great all season.
Sherry

I see the same thing almost every year. You don't need to do anything and they will bloom nicely next spring. It they bother you, you can cut the leaves off (but new ones will emerge, they are like grass), they will be fine next spring as well.


...I just posted on another thread, that Persicaria 'J.S. Caliente' is not hot for me... and it should be, that's what I was expecting and I'm so disappointed.... I've been looking forward to these all winter...
...Rudbeckia 'Deamii' is another that I'm not sure I like too much... lots of yellow daisy flowers but this and 'Goldsturm' I think are maybe not to my taste... whereas 'Henry Eilers' I'm liking very much..... bit different that one...
...Hot... Helenium 'Rubinzwerg'... and Aster 'Monch'... but they're well known in any case..
...Pennisetum 'Karley Rose' was slow to get going but it's taken off and I'm liking this one too...
..I also have Aster 'Wunder von Stafa' a sister seedling to 'Monch' and got this specifically because it flops and that's just what I wanted for its position.... I've had this before and I love the colour and graceful nature...
...Sedum 'Matrona' is just gorgeous too, but that gets the Chelsea Chop in May... a must for this plant I find...
..Stipa gigantea is always a show stopper.. I can't be without it, also Festuca 'Elijah Blue'... and Miscanthus 'Kleine Fontaine' which is just coming into flower right now... a most elegant weeping form...
...Petrorhagia illyrica 'Pink Starlets'.. I think that's the variety name.. is fast becoming one of my favourite ground coverers, underplantings.... it's just finishing now, been in flower since June... rather Gypsophila like.. dainty sprays of little pink/white flowers on a spreading plant...
..and finally, my hottest of the lot... Geum 'Blazing Sunset'.. still in bloom, since May, and I just love this blazing Geum with my roses, grasses and everything else to be quite honest....
...sorry cat, got carried away...


Such a nice thread, I like Helianthus as well.
@campanula: only reason I could think of is too much rain?
My Lemon Q I got from neighbours at the alottment, plonked them in the ground, hardly any TLC, and even in the next dry year they thrived.
now we had a terribly dry hot summer, some of the few things not bothered at all are the increasing clumps of LQ, growing through dry spells of 4weeks without rain.
my soil is heavy, "well wormed" and with a good organic part due to mulching every plant bit instead of composting it.
and I need to look for those other cultivars,
have a nice weekend, bye, Lin





Thanks, Maureen.
Admit I can manicure/shave? the flowering of some perennials (especially daylilies) before taking their picture.
There is an overlap, in flowering, between some of our daylilies and the heleniums. For earlier blooming heleniums, we also have 'Sahin's Early Flowerer' and little 'The Bishop'.
Of course, you tidy up your plants before photographing them. A concept that my DH, a non gardener, doesn't seem to understand. I'm fortunate that he is willing to take photos that I can share while I am indisposed. I am learning to use his fancy camera to take my own photos after the plants have been spruced up.