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Amazing. We battled them in Chicago my entire pre-Kansas life, and they were always gone by mid-August, turned into grubs that killed the lawns. They showed up in KC a year or two ago, but so far so good here. If we ever get heavily intested -- it's time to move again!


In "the old days" lol, I had much better luck overwintering potted mums. Almost every one I planted survived and throve for several years.
It's only been the last 6 to 8 or so years that I've had problems. I can't help but wonder if it is because back then, they were sold in September. Now the supermarkets have them in the end of June. Actually, I find it's getting harder and harder to find mums that will last through October and into November because they are all bloomed out by September.
I still plant most of them, but never with much hope of survival.
Dee

Mammoth Mums are quite hardy and have survived my zone 4 winters until I got tired of them and gave them away. Do not cut them back in the fall, the stems help to protect the crown over winter. Also, it's a bit late to tell you this now, but planting mums in the spring improves the survival rate.

Mine is only maybe 6-7" tall. I was thinking of putting it in a big planter I have. But thinking I should wait till early Spring? I doubt we'll get any flowers this Fall but you never know. They may show up in October. Being it is so small, I'm thinking it won't bloom.

Montauk daisy - Nipponanthemum nipponicum - thrives in sandy conditions, not surprisingly near the shore. It does have rubbery foliage and blooms late--in October where I am. Yes, it's in the daisy family but as far as I'm aware it's not a Shasta daisy that blooms mid-summer.
It's quite a woody plant that should be pruned in spring (since it blooms in the fall) to control height/size. I grew my plants from seed via winter sowing but have so far not been overly impressed with their performance in the perennial garden beds. It's definitely a low/no-care perennial aside from pruning to control size/shape.

Mostly cutting back, thinning things out, deadheading, removing stakes and some restaking (latter phlox after heavy rain and New England asters).
Main focus, cut out the beginnings of mildew, increase air flow between plants and make sure the perennials have enough water; plus tidy up.
Picture: yesterday.


Transplanting to do and weeds to pull things like that. Waiting for the horrid heat to break. Right now I'm just pulling dead material off, dead heading roses and pulling dried daylily scape's out so moisture doesn't turn to rot in this heat.

Miclino - I bought some sort of veronicas last spring... FULL SUN it said up and down the label. I must have bought 5 or 6 of them. After a few days in full sun they started declining... a few weeks all but one were gone. Dug up the remaining one (or what was left of it) plopped it in full shade and today its growing happily. Its "one of those things" I guess. I feel your pain

Funny that your photo was asked about Karin. I've passed it by several times in reading this thread, and each time I admired the rose. For some reason this evening as I was scrolling past it yet again to read the newest posts to this thread, it really caught my eye, and I was going to comment on really what a nice garden it is! I don't know why it took me so long to really see it, but thank you for sharing it!
:)
Dee

YEP, that's what I believe it is. Thanks again. I'm going to read the info on it. Maybe I can find out why it isn't growing much. and no blooms... but is does say blooms Sept/Oct but didn't see any last year.
Got some info. Grows in well-drained soil and last year and this year we got a lot of rain. I think where I have it planted gets too soggy so I'm going to find a new home for it. I think I should move it in the early Spring though. It might not matter b/c I doubt it will bloom this year.

Many years ago, when I first started gardening, I tried these and loved them, only to find out that they didn't overwinter. I haven't grown them since, although I often toy with the idea of growing some as annuals.
I actually did buy some from my nephew's school fundraiser last year, but now that I think of it, I don't think I ever saw them, lol. Guess they were brought by him to a family function to give to me and forgotten there, lol.
Dee

Those are exceptional Paul. I particularly like that pink/purple spotted one. Are these all named cultivars? Are they fairly long lived plants for you?
I've managed to kill the two Belemcanda I tried years ago. Maybe I ought to give it another go with the Belemcanda or the X Paracanda.
PS. kudos for using the giant "X" to indicate it's a bigeneric/intergeneric hybrid!!! It always kind of annoys me when I see one listed without it, lol. What can I say, it is one of my plant pet-peeves. ;-)
Thanks for sharing those awesome pics.
CMK

I've grown citriodora for a few years - didn't start any this year. I really love the blooms and the bloom pattern on this.
I may go back to this next year, as I am sick and tired of trying to grow didyma - never does well for me and this year I discovered I had that horsemint moth worm. Eh!
The citriodora was nice and easy and looked great. Admittedly I've never tried any others, but I do love the citriodora.
Dee

PeterâÂÂs Purple is beautiful but I donâÂÂt have full sun and it grows too tall and skinny at my place. Entirely the fault of my conditions, not the fault of the plant, I think. One of our many violent rainstorms will knock it over. I give it a haircut and it comes back but takes awhile to start blooming again.
Natural hybrid of 2 different native monarda created in the yard of Texas native plant expert and namesake Peter Loos. Nice smell like its M. fistulosa ancestor, but does not taste as good. Vibrant color that can stand up to Texas-size heat!


My apologies Gyr_Falcon,
I'll revise the list, without photos to share. I have no intentions to use them for commercial gain. It was for anyone that did not know what a plant was and wanted a quick look at what it looks like and how many different ways it can look (spring flowers/fall colors for example).
In the near future I will probably add descriptions of each plant for more practical use of the list. Height/width, bloom color/time, light requirements.









There you are gardengal! Nice that you had a little time off while summer is still with us. Thanks for the name of the brands of potting soil. I can find Farfards locally, I'm pretty sure. Expensive, but, maybe it's worth it. I will also change what I'm looking for with the bark fines and see if that helps.
Well, your cottage by the sea sounds very cozy. And I guess there is always a trade off, no matter what. The deck sounds wonderful and I would imagine you could just about live out there. :-) I bet all your guests don't mind staying out on the deck, one little bit. lol
Gardengal, thanks so much for info on potting soil. Your huge deck with views of Puget Sound must be wonderful - sounds like it is well-deserved after lots of hard work. Enjoy!