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nanaclaire(5b)

Mine is only maybe 6-7" tall. I was thinking of putting it in a big planter I have. But thinking I should wait till early Spring? I doubt we'll get any flowers this Fall but you never know. They may show up in October. Being it is so small, I'm thinking it won't bloom.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 8:13PM
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gardenweed_z6a

Montauk daisy - Nipponanthemum nipponicum - thrives in sandy conditions, not surprisingly near the shore. It does have rubbery foliage and blooms late--in October where I am. Yes, it's in the daisy family but as far as I'm aware it's not a Shasta daisy that blooms mid-summer.

It's quite a woody plant that should be pruned in spring (since it blooms in the fall) to control height/size. I grew my plants from seed via winter sowing but have so far not been overly impressed with their performance in the perennial garden beds. It's definitely a low/no-care perennial aside from pruning to control size/shape.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 8:39PM
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sunnyborders(5b)

Mostly cutting back, thinning things out, deadheading, removing stakes and some restaking (latter phlox after heavy rain and New England asters).

Main focus, cut out the beginnings of mildew, increase air flow between plants and make sure the perennials have enough water; plus tidy up.

Picture: yesterday.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 9:44AM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Transplanting to do and weeds to pull things like that. Waiting for the horrid heat to break. Right now I'm just pulling dead material off, dead heading roses and pulling dried daylily scape's out so moisture doesn't turn to rot in this heat.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 11:50AM
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david883(5/6)

Miclino - I bought some sort of veronicas last spring... FULL SUN it said up and down the label. I must have bought 5 or 6 of them. After a few days in full sun they started declining... a few weeks all but one were gone. Dug up the remaining one (or what was left of it) plopped it in full shade and today its growing happily. Its "one of those things" I guess. I feel your pain

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 6:04AM
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woodyoak zone 5 Canada(5b)

I have various types growing in shady conditions - but not the deepest shade - and they do fine.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 10:00AM
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diggerdee zone 6 CT

Funny that your photo was asked about Karin. I've passed it by several times in reading this thread, and each time I admired the rose. For some reason this evening as I was scrolling past it yet again to read the newest posts to this thread, it really caught my eye, and I was going to comment on really what a nice garden it is! I don't know why it took me so long to really see it, but thank you for sharing it!

:)
Dee

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 7:19PM
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jujujojo_gw(6b 7a)

Another example:

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 8:57AM
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nanaclaire(5b)

Thanks... going to look that up.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 8:01AM
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nanaclaire(5b)

YEP, that's what I believe it is. Thanks again. I'm going to read the info on it. Maybe I can find out why it isn't growing much. and no blooms... but is does say blooms Sept/Oct but didn't see any last year.

Got some info. Grows in well-drained soil and last year and this year we got a lot of rain. I think where I have it planted gets too soggy so I'm going to find a new home for it. I think I should move it in the early Spring though. It might not matter b/c I doubt it will bloom this year.

    Bookmark     August 28, 2013 at 8:08AM
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diggerdee zone 6 CT

Many years ago, when I first started gardening, I tried these and loved them, only to find out that they didn't overwinter. I haven't grown them since, although I often toy with the idea of growing some as annuals.

I actually did buy some from my nephew's school fundraiser last year, but now that I think of it, I don't think I ever saw them, lol. Guess they were brought by him to a family function to give to me and forgotten there, lol.

Dee

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 10:13PM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

Those are exceptional Paul. I particularly like that pink/purple spotted one. Are these all named cultivars? Are they fairly long lived plants for you?

I've managed to kill the two Belemcanda I tried years ago. Maybe I ought to give it another go with the Belemcanda or the X Paracanda.

PS. kudos for using the giant "X" to indicate it's a bigeneric/intergeneric hybrid!!! It always kind of annoys me when I see one listed without it, lol. What can I say, it is one of my plant pet-peeves. ;-)

Thanks for sharing those awesome pics.
CMK

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 10:02PM
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diggerdee zone 6 CT

I've grown citriodora for a few years - didn't start any this year. I really love the blooms and the bloom pattern on this.

I may go back to this next year, as I am sick and tired of trying to grow didyma - never does well for me and this year I discovered I had that horsemint moth worm. Eh!

The citriodora was nice and easy and looked great. Admittedly I've never tried any others, but I do love the citriodora.

Dee

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 7:29PM
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river_crossroads z8b Central Louisiana

PeterâÂÂs Purple is beautiful but I donâÂÂt have full sun and it grows too tall and skinny at my place. Entirely the fault of my conditions, not the fault of the plant, I think. One of our many violent rainstorms will knock it over. I give it a haircut and it comes back but takes awhile to start blooming again.

Natural hybrid of 2 different native monarda created in the yard of Texas native plant expert and namesake Peter Loos. Nice smell like its M. fistulosa ancestor, but does not taste as good. Vibrant color that can stand up to Texas-size heat!

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 9:09PM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

I think you are doing a great job getting some pics! I caught these two the other day, they didn't see each other at first. Is the standing cypress Ipomopsis rubra?

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 3:17PM
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GreatPlains1(7OK)

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This post was edited by GreatPlains1 on Wed, Sep 4, 13 at 1:39

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 4:21PM
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auron22(6b OH)

My apologies Gyr_Falcon,

I'll revise the list, without photos to share. I have no intentions to use them for commercial gain. It was for anyone that did not know what a plant was and wanted a quick look at what it looks like and how many different ways it can look (spring flowers/fall colors for example).

In the near future I will probably add descriptions of each plant for more practical use of the list. Height/width, bloom color/time, light requirements.

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 6:04PM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

I think you could do and use this a lot easier as a spreadsheet. I keep one of my own garden notes also.

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 3:19PM
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mulchmama

I've been cutting back Joe Pyes to tidy them up for over ten years. It makes a huge improvement. The plant is shorter, more compact, not likely to flop, and produces more blooms -- but a bit later. When they get to be about 18" tall, I shear tham back by half, and about a month after that, I cut them back again, but by about a third. I stop cutting them back around July 4th. The timing might be different in your area, but you know how to figure it out.

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 2:12PM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

Rabbits did the job for me early in the season. In fact, they kept chewing my Little Joe to the ground over and over. I was afraid it wouldn't make it. For some reason, they stopped and it did recover. It just started to bloom about a week ago and is only around 2 feet tall, but I can't say it branched out like normal pinching does. It's definitely very full however - more from the base of the plant.

Kevin

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 2:36PM
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GreatPlains1(7OK)

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This post was edited by GreatPlains1 on Tue, Aug 27, 13 at 0:30

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 11:47PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

GP1, love that Desert Four OâÂÂclock and the Blue Hair Grass is very cute. I'm planning on ordering that 'Blond Ambition'.Thanks!

Karin, no problem with a thread drift, I like penstemons too, although mine all disappeared on me this spring.

Babs, IâÂÂve seen a car dealer near me that used ribbon grass in the ground, wow, what a job they are going to have keeping that in control, itâÂÂs spreading in a dense matt. Japanese and Siberian Iris are a good substitute and they look nice with your SolomonâÂÂs Seal. Thanks!

CMK, I have a lot of part sun and IâÂÂd have to watch the moisture levels, I may give that Blue Oat Grass a try. Putting the aggressive plants in under a tree, good idea. ItâÂÂs not easy finding something that grows vigorously under trees.

I do like that âÂÂAureolaâ and IâÂÂm going to keep my eye out for that. Thank you!

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 12:45PM
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what is this perennial? It has poinsettia-like brachssee attached photo
Posted by gardenmomma(VA z7) August 27, 2013
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wieslaw59

Looks like an oak tree seedling to me.

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 9:47AM
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katob Z6ish, NE Pa

The leaves do look oakish, but if you look at the back part of the plant you can see the red bracts similar to a poinsettia. Compare it to wild poinsettia, an euphorbia related to the Christmas poinsettias and also a southeast native plant.

Here is a link that might be useful: NC wildflowers website

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 12:04PM
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spedigrees z4VT

Woodyoak, the crabapple in my photo is an American Spirit, but the fruits on my Profusion and Prairiefire look identical. I don't think these fruits are edible, except by the birds. Last spring, flocks of robins, and other birds, dined on them. Before that, I didn't think that even birds would eat these fruits. I think these trees are all some sort of Asian ornamental trees.

My grandmother had one of the old varieties of crabapple trees that you refer to, and she put up delicious spiced crabapples one year. I'm nostalgic for them too!

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 4:49PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

That's a pretty apple, Woody. I am sure everyone feels this way, but don't you think certain foods, fruits and vegetables especially tasted better when you were young? I wonder if it is an illusion, or if it was our 'young' taste buds or is it actually that it was tastier? :-)

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 4:53PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

if you start tearing out everything with mildew.. in fall... you arent going to have much left ... come spring

why would you destroy a perennial????

cut them back

ken

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 2:27PM
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mary_max

Ha you always make me smile when I read your comments! Its like what a fool person asks such a dumb question. Haaaa Thanks for the answer. I was hoping I didn't have to tear the plants out. Let me ask another question. Is it time to cut things back in zone 5? I need to clean up things before I can move anything or before I can plant out my summer sown things. Oh lovely summer sowing . Free plants!

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 2:58PM
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