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diggerdee zone 6 CT

Many years ago, when I first started gardening, I tried these and loved them, only to find out that they didn't overwinter. I haven't grown them since, although I often toy with the idea of growing some as annuals.

I actually did buy some from my nephew's school fundraiser last year, but now that I think of it, I don't think I ever saw them, lol. Guess they were brought by him to a family function to give to me and forgotten there, lol.

Dee

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 10:13PM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

Those are exceptional Paul. I particularly like that pink/purple spotted one. Are these all named cultivars? Are they fairly long lived plants for you?

I've managed to kill the two Belemcanda I tried years ago. Maybe I ought to give it another go with the Belemcanda or the X Paracanda.

PS. kudos for using the giant "X" to indicate it's a bigeneric/intergeneric hybrid!!! It always kind of annoys me when I see one listed without it, lol. What can I say, it is one of my plant pet-peeves. ;-)

Thanks for sharing those awesome pics.
CMK

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 10:02PM
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diggerdee zone 6 CT

I've grown citriodora for a few years - didn't start any this year. I really love the blooms and the bloom pattern on this.

I may go back to this next year, as I am sick and tired of trying to grow didyma - never does well for me and this year I discovered I had that horsemint moth worm. Eh!

The citriodora was nice and easy and looked great. Admittedly I've never tried any others, but I do love the citriodora.

Dee

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 7:29PM
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river_crossroads z8b Central Louisiana

PeterâÂÂs Purple is beautiful but I donâÂÂt have full sun and it grows too tall and skinny at my place. Entirely the fault of my conditions, not the fault of the plant, I think. One of our many violent rainstorms will knock it over. I give it a haircut and it comes back but takes awhile to start blooming again.

Natural hybrid of 2 different native monarda created in the yard of Texas native plant expert and namesake Peter Loos. Nice smell like its M. fistulosa ancestor, but does not taste as good. Vibrant color that can stand up to Texas-size heat!

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 9:09PM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

I think you are doing a great job getting some pics! I caught these two the other day, they didn't see each other at first. Is the standing cypress Ipomopsis rubra?

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 3:17PM
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GreatPlains1(7OK)

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    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 4:21PM
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auron22(6b OH)

My apologies Gyr_Falcon,

I'll revise the list, without photos to share. I have no intentions to use them for commercial gain. It was for anyone that did not know what a plant was and wanted a quick look at what it looks like and how many different ways it can look (spring flowers/fall colors for example).

In the near future I will probably add descriptions of each plant for more practical use of the list. Height/width, bloom color/time, light requirements.

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 6:04PM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

I think you could do and use this a lot easier as a spreadsheet. I keep one of my own garden notes also.

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 3:19PM
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mulchmama

I've been cutting back Joe Pyes to tidy them up for over ten years. It makes a huge improvement. The plant is shorter, more compact, not likely to flop, and produces more blooms -- but a bit later. When they get to be about 18" tall, I shear tham back by half, and about a month after that, I cut them back again, but by about a third. I stop cutting them back around July 4th. The timing might be different in your area, but you know how to figure it out.

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 2:12PM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

Rabbits did the job for me early in the season. In fact, they kept chewing my Little Joe to the ground over and over. I was afraid it wouldn't make it. For some reason, they stopped and it did recover. It just started to bloom about a week ago and is only around 2 feet tall, but I can't say it branched out like normal pinching does. It's definitely very full however - more from the base of the plant.

Kevin

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 2:36PM
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GreatPlains1(7OK)

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This post was edited by GreatPlains1 on Tue, Aug 27, 13 at 0:30

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 11:47PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

GP1, love that Desert Four OâÂÂclock and the Blue Hair Grass is very cute. I'm planning on ordering that 'Blond Ambition'.Thanks!

Karin, no problem with a thread drift, I like penstemons too, although mine all disappeared on me this spring.

Babs, IâÂÂve seen a car dealer near me that used ribbon grass in the ground, wow, what a job they are going to have keeping that in control, itâÂÂs spreading in a dense matt. Japanese and Siberian Iris are a good substitute and they look nice with your SolomonâÂÂs Seal. Thanks!

CMK, I have a lot of part sun and IâÂÂd have to watch the moisture levels, I may give that Blue Oat Grass a try. Putting the aggressive plants in under a tree, good idea. ItâÂÂs not easy finding something that grows vigorously under trees.

I do like that âÂÂAureolaâ and IâÂÂm going to keep my eye out for that. Thank you!

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 12:45PM
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what is this perennial? It has poinsettia-like brachssee attached photo
Posted by gardenmomma(VA z7) August 27, 2013
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wieslaw59

Looks like an oak tree seedling to me.

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 9:47AM
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katob Z6ish, NE Pa

The leaves do look oakish, but if you look at the back part of the plant you can see the red bracts similar to a poinsettia. Compare it to wild poinsettia, an euphorbia related to the Christmas poinsettias and also a southeast native plant.

Here is a link that might be useful: NC wildflowers website

    Bookmark     August 27, 2013 at 12:04PM
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spedigrees z4VT

Woodyoak, the crabapple in my photo is an American Spirit, but the fruits on my Profusion and Prairiefire look identical. I don't think these fruits are edible, except by the birds. Last spring, flocks of robins, and other birds, dined on them. Before that, I didn't think that even birds would eat these fruits. I think these trees are all some sort of Asian ornamental trees.

My grandmother had one of the old varieties of crabapple trees that you refer to, and she put up delicious spiced crabapples one year. I'm nostalgic for them too!

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 4:49PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

That's a pretty apple, Woody. I am sure everyone feels this way, but don't you think certain foods, fruits and vegetables especially tasted better when you were young? I wonder if it is an illusion, or if it was our 'young' taste buds or is it actually that it was tastier? :-)

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 4:53PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

if you start tearing out everything with mildew.. in fall... you arent going to have much left ... come spring

why would you destroy a perennial????

cut them back

ken

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 2:27PM
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mary_max

Ha you always make me smile when I read your comments! Its like what a fool person asks such a dumb question. Haaaa Thanks for the answer. I was hoping I didn't have to tear the plants out. Let me ask another question. Is it time to cut things back in zone 5? I need to clean up things before I can move anything or before I can plant out my summer sown things. Oh lovely summer sowing . Free plants!

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 2:58PM
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teri2(7B TN)

I've never grown it myself but, if you Google it, it's generally accepted that it's high on the invasive list.

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 6:22PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

the link post.. just fell to page 2 ...

you WILL regret... not removing it

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 8:07AM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

I'm not sure if that is new growth. It seems a bit early for the plant to be doing that. I enlarged the photo and compared the leaves in the center to the leaves on the blooming stems and they are very, very different. Are you sure something else didn't self-sow right in the middle of the plant? That happens. It's hard to say. I'm aware that new growth leaves look very different from the older leaves, but there's something about these leaves that just doesn't look right - almost like another plant right smack in the middle.

There isn't much you can do about it now, but make a note and see what's going on with this plant either after it's done blooming or next spring. You might have to lift it out of the ground to see if something else is growing there.

Kevin

This post was edited by aachenelf on Mon, Aug 26, 13 at 6:34

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 6:02AM
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jacqueinthegorge(USDA 8 / Sunset 5)

I agree, looks like a different plat erupting in the middle of your rudbeckias. Don't know what though.

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 6:53AM
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jujujojo_gw(6b 7a)

Posted by Auron22 6b (My Page) on Sun, Aug 25, 13 at 20:09

Thank you so much. I notice neither squirrel nor bird attempt to eat them. The vine is really messy but it is not on my property.

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 10:24PM
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david883(5/6)

I have this stuff creeping up and through my privacy fence from the woods behind me. It even makes it way to climbing up some trees and is very hard to pull out without ripping branches and leaves off the trees. What a pain!

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 6:14AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

I almost bought a 'Little Spires' yesterday. I'm thinking about taking out my Perovskia after 15 years in the same bed because it is flopping & driving me crazy. Especially this year, since we've had a lot of rain. But regardless, I do have other things in the bed that need water and I do have clay soil. I heard that 'Little Spires' remains upright, so if anyone has that variety, how is it doing?

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 5:27AM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

I bought 'Little Spires' this past spring and so far it is completely upright. I like it - lots. Seems very sturdy. I'm not so sure about the ultimate height however. I think it's advertized at 2 feet, but I'm sure mine is taller which makes me wonder what it will do in year 2 and after.

Kevin

    Bookmark     August 26, 2013 at 5:49AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

seriously ....

the orchard 2 miles from my house.. has a 6 foot stack of them for sale..

and somehow.. a woman who drove 65 miles to meet a total GW stranger.. is too shy to go ask an orchard.. if they have baskets for sale..

crikey woman ... which on is it.. franklin.. want me to call them for you????

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: i called.. no one answered ...

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 4:48PM
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spedigrees z4VT

We bought a half dozen baskets on line some years back. I can't locate the receipt, so not sure where we purchased them, but here are a few places that sell them:

http://wooddowels.frankedmunds.com/category/wood-baskets

http://www.wasserstrom.com/restaurant-supplies-equipment/cooking_woodbasket_1000148

http://www.groworganic.com/1-bushel-basket-with-2-handles.html

    Bookmark     August 25, 2013 at 5:49PM
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