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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

I would look around to see if you can find Annabelle locally, and if you can, think about canceling the order. I found Annabelle here, and I am quite rural. Also, IME if you are willing to wait a year or two once you have one plant, Annabelle will create suckers and you can have as many as you want. I give away hunks since it's so prolific.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2015 at 4:39AM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

Hopefully we are all talking about the same nursery? I ordered from the Scappoose Joy Creek a few years ago. I was thrilled with the quality of their plants. Wonderfully packaged and bigger than expected.

I agree with GG about them probably holding off on sending because of the heat. One of our wholesale plant reps from that general area of OR said it was almost as painfully hot there as it was here (Spokane, got well over 100 degrees last week!).

CMK

    Bookmark     July 7, 2015 at 8:20AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

what they said... my way ...

you plant plants in soil.. mother earth ...

mulch does not become soil... once you spread it on top of soil ...

pull back mulch.. plant in soil .... leave a small circle of bare earth around the plant.. to insure water soaks into the soil ...

ken

    Bookmark     July 7, 2015 at 7:23AM
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edlincoln(6A)

The purpose of mulch is really to kill small plants that can't reach above the mulch. If you are planting a small plant, you really have to scrape the mulch away from the spot you plant it.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2015 at 7:53AM
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peren.all(5a ON Canada)

Yes I definitely meant pull it out. You may need a shovel or trowel to help you follow the roots since they may be entangled with the Coreopsis.

Urushiol is the oil within the PI that you need to break down. Washing twice works for me but follow NHBabs advice if you are concerned. ( I don't think it is overkill ) Years ago I had it so badly that I had to have a Cortizone? treatment taking 9 pills the first day then 8 the next day then 7....

    Bookmark     July 7, 2015 at 5:10AM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

peren, I also had to go the cortizone treatment route years ago. I was pulling weeds out from my azaleas and didn't see the PI. You could actually see my yanking pattern - my left led was covered, only the front of my right leg, my hand and arms and my neck - ugh.

Currently that is not an option, so I have to extra careful. I'm already on cortizone for a chronic condition and it's taken me over two years to get down to a very low dose. Bumping up to a mega dose, even for a day, would wreck havoc with my body.

diggerdee, sorry you have that much to deal with. Not fun at all.

NHBabs, oh dear!There is a cat that belongs to someone in my area that likes to roam at night. She like to visit me to get petted and also get stoned on my catmint. Maybe I should stop petting her just in case.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2015 at 6:25AM
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fleur_zone4

I planted 2 of these last summer on a chainlink fence. They remained about 2 feet tall the entire summer but had berries in the Fall. I was disappointed by the lack of growth but this year.... wow! They went from a 2x1 little things to each covering a 7x4 area in 6 to 8 weeks since spring started. Very happy with these (variegated variety) They did have a little die back from the worst winter in 30 years, but came back beautifully.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 8:46PM
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Campanula UK Z8

It is astonishingly difficult to get this plant in England - I really don't know why since we have various parthenocissus vines everywhere...but nonetheless, I tracked down a plain green one to cover the outside of my horsebox (camouflage). I planted it a couple of years ago but this season has been it's first growing season, and so far, it has been slow. However, as we are all veterans in the ivy wars, this has not troubled me one whit - in fact, I was quite happy for it to loll about for a year or 2 before reaching skywards - not least as I am still slightly nervous about this complete unknown (for me) climber. Given the blackberry patch which we call the garden is so rampantly out of control, what is one more thuggish plant except a counterweight to the other thugs in what will no doubt be an all out aggression-fest? True, I did get a bit bent out of shape the first year in the wood but have completely altered my perspective on weeds, invaders, nuisance plants and, of course, a whole range of fauna which lives off the proceeds. As long as I can cut holes for windows and doors, I don't mind living underneath a cascading liana...and as we have nothing remotely like those astonishing berries, I look forward to finding out a whole lot more about ampelopsis...and failing that, I could, at a pinch, rain liquid death around it - much as I have been dealing with ivy and nettle.

    Bookmark     July 7, 2015 at 2:12AM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Thanks. But I think you are being too kind.

The remaining "Rio" is so healthy and I really like the white flowers on the darker red stems but these days there are so many of these "Coral Bells" that look very similar...similar to "Rio". So to be honest it is the broken symmetry that too much bugs me. And this is also true for the missing BB. It is crazy that I keep going back again and again to these buddleia. They are so "foo foo" as Ken might say, in our zone. But having one survive gives me (false?) hope.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 7:40PM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

Hee. I completely understand. I have spent lots of money because I wanted a particular cultivar and those in my local nurseries were not the exact variety I wanted. A lot of times for me it's a color thing.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 8:17PM
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dowlinggram

I have had malva for some time. I don't know what kind because it came as a self seeded plant from a friend. Mine looks very much like yours and I have it in white too. Mine does sprout from dropped seeds in places I don't want it and I transplant it. I find if I give it a bit of protection for a few days it transplants better. They have a tap root so make sure you get the whole root. Try putting water in the hole where you want to put it and letting it soak into the ground before you plant. This lets the roots hit moist ground right away. Then cover the plant with an upside down flower pot and leave it on for 2 or 3 days. You may have to put a stone on top to hold it down. Then take it off and watch it for a couple of days to see if it wilts. If it does then cover it for a day again. Covering the plant with a flower pot allows the plant to set down it's roots without coping with hot sun and other environmental hazards until it gets it's roots established.

A note--If you cut it down after most of the flowers are gone and it has a lot of seed pods it will send up new shoots and bloom again. Try saving some seeds and sprinkle them on the ground where you want them in very early spring or winter sow them

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 4:17PM
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docmom_gw Zone 5 MI(5)

I second the suggestion to sprinkle seeds where you want them to grow. That way you don't need to bother with transplanting and fussing over them. If they pop up where you don't want them, just yank them out.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 8:03PM
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Marie Tulin(6a Boston MA suburb)

Well, I just might remember. Miracles do happen, though not ususally with my memory. The experiment will better than you imagine. I also planted hundreds of Bluestone muscari and was really mad when they ran out. But I was determined to finish the border, so I order from Colorblends. The muscari were at least 2 if not 2.5 times bigger. But we'll see in two years.

BTW, the idea of the blue sweep on the back hill was yours, Mindy, about 4 or 5 years ago. It takes me a while to get around to some projects.

    Bookmark     December 2, 2009 at 9:40PM
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Michele Justin-Behm

I inherited some yellow tulips from my mother 4 years ago. Maybe it was 5 anyway last year they started to heave and I put more soil over them because I did not have time to deal with them. This spring they came up and they were beautiful however way too many leaves so I dug them up after they bloomed and had finished. And I have at least 100 bulbs. I am asking this because some of the bulbs are smaller some are quite large. Will the small bulb bloom? And if these bulbs die out every year why do mind keep blooming? I have a few varieties but we're given many so I'm not sure what they are.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 6:23PM
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Campanula UK Z8

Or possibly symphyandra - a close relative of the bellflowers.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 2:33PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

I had not heard of symphyandra. They for sure do look like many campanulas.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 2:39PM
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texasranger2

I've been lazy with photos this year but remember when we were sowing tall verbena seeds? Mine are up and blooming, a bit thin so far but they are working well with the 'Los Lunas' Little Bluestem plants I ordered from HCG. Its a work in progress. Did yours come up? I couldn't find the old post so I'm posting it here. I plan to let these just go to seed and naturalize in that spot and hope for a better showing of them next year. They are tall and a couple started blooming since late May, some are still short.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 2:09PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Did yours come up?

Good memory tr2.

I got sidetracked this spring and it was so late by the time I put them in the ground and to make a long story short they went in a location which has tall wild grasses and thistles and raspberry canes. So I have no idea if they germinated and are able to compete with all the nearby 'hellions'. If I see nothing by September I will purchase more seeds this winter.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 2:36PM
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val(6a)

No, I hadn't planned to incorporate it in my garden, it's at the edge and wondered about leaving it....there are ALOT of leaves/seedlings nearby in my lawn tho!

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 2:42AM
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texasranger2

I'm growing it in a difficult, dry, mostly shady area among other low growing mostly native plants that will take the conditions like echinacea, purple hyssop & scarlet sage. I found mine in an abandoned field slotted for leveling and commercialization and brought it home just for that purpose, along with a couple others -- white asters, liatris & maximillian sunflowers.

To get irritatingly technical, I don't think of native wildflowers as weeds. If its growing in a place where its not wanted, any plant is a weed and that includes trees.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 11:53AM
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rober49(5 St Louis)

I've grown bleeding hearts at other locations over the years & never had them spread. this spring is the 1st time I've ever seen this occur. I also have several volunteer bottle brush buckeyes & smoke trees.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 9:40AM
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rober49(5 St Louis)

I read the info on that link. how would you divide these? dig them up & split the roots?

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 9:48AM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

I garden in deer country and I make a serious effort to grow almost nothing that is really appealing to them--no hostas, only 6 day lilies, no yews, only two hydrangeas. in the shade garden, where they tend to enter the yard, the only appealing plant is Solomon's seal (which they sometimes destroy) and Begonia grandis, which I keep sprayed. Other shade plants include Brunnera, Pulmonaria, Epimediums, ferns, primroses, Actea, Geranium macrorrhizum, etc. Ini the large sunny beds, plants are also highly deer resistant--Agastaches of many types, Salvias, Coreopsis, Irises, Pardancanda, Nepetas, Achilleas, peonies, etc.

I feel that if you garden in deer country, there is very little point in planting a free lunch for deer when there are many alternatives.

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a2zmom(6a - nj)

I live two blocks from the county park, so lots of deer. I use something called "Deer Solution" which has a cinnamon smell. Deer leave everything alone, including hostas and lilies. The on;y thing I won't plant is tulips - they love that so much that I'm not sure anything would deter them.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 8:00AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

its a free show of ma nature.. leave it there.. and watch the show ..

its breaking down the mulch..

ken

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 5:06AM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

that part's fine, Ken, but it's pretty unattractive next to my lavender and pincushion flower.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 7:53AM
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sunnyborders(5b)

interesting, Dowlinggram,

Only have several of the Arizona series which were purchased as plants in flower a couple of years ago and they're still going strong.

As indicated, the Arizona series contains the first Gaillardia introduced for which vernalization of the seeds is not required.

Think that the Arizona series consists of seed strains of Gaillardia x grandiflora (itself of hybrid origin - both perennial and annual); indicates variability from the seed propagation. It will be interesting to see whether yellow creeps back into the flower colour. Whatever the case, sounds like you're going to get something good.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 7:37AM
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texasranger2

Laugh. Should you feel guilty over plants found in the alley in the trash? I've stooped that low before but it was many many years ago. Perfectly salvageable plants just sitting there when all they needed was a bit of trimming and TLC, I couldn't resist. Dumpster diving at its best but seems I heard its illegal now.

    Bookmark     July 4, 2015 at 3:54PM
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engrgirl(Zone 4 MN)

Thank you all for the comments, and especially texasrangers photos- that looks exactly like what I saw. I think the fact that some areas were more "webby" than others made me think it wasn't just the way the plan grows, but maybe it was different stages of development. And I swear, when I did the paper test there were two different type of crawling bug-dots.... Wonder what they were? In any case, thank you all and I'll ask before panic next time. Hopefully these plants come back, but if not the $4.50 tuition isn't too bad. :-)

    Bookmark     July 6, 2015 at 6:07AM
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