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boday

The strangest losses I've ever had was Monarda 'Raspberry Wine' and 'Fireball' plus one of two Persicaria Polymorpha due to large snow cover. Go figure.

I only whimper occasionally on pulling all the Echinaciea last summer infected by diseased plants from garden centers.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2013 at 12:10AM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

I lost more plants than I care to consider to the voles, including several hosta and clematis and a 5 year old Baptisia. Happily the Baptisia had a few seedlings and I am now planting in wire cages and watering in with a mix that includes castor oil. I'm also planning to start setting traps to reduce the number of voles.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2013 at 8:10AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

for me here in MI ... we have basically 3 waves of weeds ...

of which this purslane IS A WEED ...

in march.. we have the perennial weeds.. that wintered over ... pull them out ...

then there is the early crop of annual weeds ... these would be the ones that sprout in warm soil.. and enjoy cool nights ...pull them out ...

and then come the heat of the summer weeds ... that need hot soil to sprout .. and thrive in hot nights.. relatively speaking... so here come the purslanes.. and the crabgrass ... you would swear they double in size.. every warm night ...

to forestall all of them.. and reduce your weeding ... you need a mulch ... most of these things germinate on the soil surface .. and if you cover the surface.. you reduce germination by 90% or so ... also.. you bury the 50 billion dormant seeds on the soil surface ... and finally. the mulch will make it easier to pull out what does grow.. as it will keep the soil more friable.. loose ...

so there you go.. pull them out.. add some mulch ... and you should be well on your way ..

ken

    Bookmark     June 28, 2013 at 7:46AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

I have portulaca seedlings and they don't look like this. I do have that particular weed and I didn't realize it was purslane. Which is actually supposed to be a very nutritious green to eat.

Agree, mulch keeps the weeding down. :-)

    Bookmark     June 29, 2013 at 7:00AM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Aster Blue Autumn, in the three years I've had it has stayed very short and heathy with pretty flowers. All thou I don't know what experiences others have had with it. So far Royal Candles has been taller.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2013 at 8:27PM
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boday

Yellows? Someone say yellows? Check out Heliopsis 'Tuscan Sun' Should comply with your wish in the sunny spot.

    Bookmark     June 29, 2013 at 12:24AM
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gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)

Hemlock's leaves are shiny, cow parsley not so much. And both can have purple speckling on the stem, although the poison hemlock's tends to be very pronounced. Could also be Cicuta maculata or water hemlock....as toxic (maybe even more so) and almost identical to the Conium in appearance except for its preference for wet sites and tuberous root structure.

ALL are weeds - best to get rid of anything with this appearance.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2013 at 7:17PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Thanks everyone for all the good information. It did have shiny leaves and was growing in a moist spot. Glad it's gone.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2013 at 8:15PM
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ontnative(5b Can/USDA 4)

I have the short variegated Sol. Seal and find it looks good with so many plants. I have it growing with Geranium phaeum, G.phaeum album, Mertensia virginica, Short's aster, Erythronium Pagoda, Bottlebrush grass, Heuchera villosa, etc. Both the Mertensia and Erythronium bloom early, before the Sol. Seal really gets going in the spring. The leaves of these first two wither away as the Sol. Seal gets to its full height. The aster has arched branches that curve over the Sol.Seal in Sept-Oct, in a pretty lav.blue colour.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2013 at 8:16AM
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trovesoftrilliums(5)

In a dry neglected spot.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2013 at 5:15PM
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funnthsun z7A - Southern VA

Got my order today. Everything looked good and it was a BIG order except for the Rudbeckia Goldsturm and they were small and really trimmed and some of the leaves were mushy from travelling wet. Kind of holy, too, looks like something has been munching on them. I think they will recover, but could have been a little healthier on those. Otherwise, though, a great order and certainly can't beat the prices, regardless! I would definitely order from them again.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2013 at 4:16PM
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trovesoftrilliums(5)

Mine came yesterday and most if the plants looked excellent. The coreopsis look the worse but still ok--comparable to local plants on summer sales but more interesting choices.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2013 at 5:08PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

I have a couple of invasive plants growing in chimney tiles, the square fired clay type. The bottom is sunk 8"-12" down, and the plant is planted in soil in the tile that is about 1 1/2 feet above the rest of the garden. In the 6 or more years of using this raised planter technique none of the plants have escaped. I got my tiles as cutoffs or damaged pieces from a mason.

I also have used regular planters, but have raised the planter up on thick pavers so that the roots can't escape through the drainage holes. Perhaps one of these techniques will work for you.

    Bookmark     June 27, 2013 at 8:38PM
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ontnative(5b Can/USDA 4)

Just FYO about trying a non-invasive variety of the white gooseneck loosestrife. I tried one of these new hybrids several years ago. It was nice enough, but did not have the charm of the old original. The flowers were sort of chubby and bunched on the stems. I grew it for a few years and then discarded it.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2013 at 8:31AM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

super... congrats ....

how about a picture???

ken

    Bookmark     June 28, 2013 at 7:37AM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

Spray with a rabbit repellent.

    Bookmark     June 28, 2013 at 5:50AM
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seedmoney(Zone 8b)

Thanks for your kind words, Lin.
I actually prefer this white variant over the regular "blue" ones. Any idea if the white flowered type will come true from seed? The plant in question is isolated from the others.

    Bookmark     June 27, 2013 at 4:18PM
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linaria_gw

that depends on their pollination habit/technique, I once had volunteers of a white Centranthus ruber, all of them white as well; clueless about Dianthus though, self-pollination would make that happen,

bye, Lin.

    Bookmark     June 27, 2013 at 4:39PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

They also love fallen leaves keeps soil cool and moist. Happy worms giving nutrients to plants and airy soil The beauty awaits.

    Bookmark     June 27, 2013 at 3:16PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

I love them.

    Bookmark     June 27, 2013 at 3:18PM
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funnthsun z7A - Southern VA

Looks like Patty meant to say Coreopsis Galaxy, not Mercury Rising. Love the combo of those together, though. Beautiful!

    Bookmark     June 27, 2013 at 2:33PM
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Patty W. zone 5a Illinois

Your correct Galaxy, duh

    Bookmark     June 27, 2013 at 2:57PM
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gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)

What you are discovering online is correct - other than these both being a variegated cultivar of euphorbia, they are nothing alike. 'Silver Swan' is a sliver-white variegated selection of E. characias. It blooms with a pale, greeny-white flower bract and should get to about 30-36" tall.

'Ascot Rainbow' is a variegated xmartinii hybrid. It has a lot more color than 'Silver Swan' - a mostly creamy yellow base with just a touch of green along the leaf midribs. New growth comes in with a reddish tint and in my area, the entire plant colors up brightly (red, pink, orange) during cold weather. The flower bracts are a pale chartreuse yellow on a pretty compact (18-24") plant.

Placed side by side, IMO the two plants look nothing alike. If you were trying to match the Silver Swans, I doubt you would be satisfied with Ascot Rainbow, although I think it is a stunning plant all on its own. Silver Swan presents a very 'cool' appearance that combines great with darker colored foliage and slivery blues. Ascot Rainbow looks best with warmer colors - golds, bronze, toffee tones.

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 1:37PM
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chueh(7B)

Thank you gardengal48.

    Bookmark     June 27, 2013 at 12:51PM
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lizbest1(5)

If it's flopping so that the center is bare and the blooms are faded/gone you can cut it back as hard as you'd like, it'll start growing again and bloom in 6-8 weeks. Mine do the same thing but I'm probably 2-3 weeks behind you--mine are blooming and standing up nicely right now....

    Bookmark     June 27, 2013 at 1:00AM
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