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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

why replant what needs to be moved... wont it be going back????

two choices ....

make a nursery bed .... even just a pile of wood chips.. dig up plants.. nestle them in.. and 'hold them over' for the week or two of the project ... replant.. the spread mulch .... this plan might seem slightly backwards.. to order the finish mulch first.. but is brilliant.. if i say so myself.. lol ... make it part of the project and have him deliver and place it.. where you need it for the storage ... sorta like nurseries.. who bury ball and burlaps in mulch ...

or use plastic grocery bags .. dig plant... insert in bag .... carry to holding area in full shade ... set down.. open bag flat .. and let them lay there for the duration ... pick up.. and replant after it is all done ... throw bag away .. water and mulch ....

take lots of pre and post pix ....

good luck

ken

ps: might be an interesting NEW post about how others have 'held plants over' ... if you dont address it solely to me.. lol ...

    Bookmark     June 26, 2013 at 8:00AM
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gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)

I love this plant!! I know it can be a problem but I find it behaves rather more nicely if you stress it a bit. More sun, less water and spreading growth slows dramatically. it doesn't try to take over the world.

No reason why it shouldn't respond to RoundUp or any other broadleaf herbicide if you are in a position to use such.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 4:34PM
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gardenweed_z6a

A non-chemical alternative to Roundup might be vinegar. I use regular white vinegar as a weed killer in my garden because I don't like using harsh chemicals. Vinegar kills whatever it touches so I'm careful to pour it slowly on the weeds--briars, crabgrass, dandelions, poison ivy--and avoid getting any on my plants. I pour it on both the foliage and close to the stems at ground level.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 6:53PM
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woodyoak zone 5 Canada(5b)

I planted a couple of Branford Beauty a year or two ago. They are very small still; at this point they have more of the low/wide look of a JPF, so I'm not sure yet hom they'll look longterm.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 4:47PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

hey.. the wall.. did you go with a mason.. or a landscaper.. that was the pressing issue...

ken

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 4:54PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

Bringing this back up because I have really impressive blooms this year.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 12:29PM
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judyhi(6)

They don't ask, they just eat. LOL!

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 2:58PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

I have never seen this plant showing any blackened leaves. I have it in my very dark shade hosta garden. It actually reseeds and I have had to remove the babies to other areas. In 5 years I have 5 new huge plants.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 12:19PM
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simcan(z5b/Toronto)

@katusha, yes, I do this with several plants and it works very well...Brunnera, Pulmonaria, Lady's Mantle, Bachelor's Buttons, Husker's Red Penstemon, variegated Symphytum, to name only a few off the top of my head. Keeps things fresh-looking and healthy, as many spring flowering plants can look ratty after bloom. Sometimes I wait until the plant splays, showing the basal growth coming up and sometimes I just shear it right to the ground. I have never lost a plant this way.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 1:40PM
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donna_in_sask(2b)

^Just make sure you aren't bringing in bugs as well...

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 12:34PM
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Campanula UK Z8

I keep many pots of perennials outside till they are a good flowering size - I make a long windbreak using poles and green shade netting and line the pots (at least 5inches, 1litre size) along the length of it. I can keep a few hundred pots going as long as they are both out of strong winds and direct sun. I water by hand, just running along the rows a few times with a 10litre can.

    Bookmark     June 25, 2013 at 7:28AM
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gailwrite(6KY)

I've had good luck just digging up the whole clump and pulling apart the sections. Works in early spring or after the bloom in summer.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 10:11PM
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gailwrite(6KY)

I've had good luck just digging up the whole clump and pulling apart the sections. Works in early spring or after the bloom in summer.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 10:12PM
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jayco(5b NY)

Yeah my other geraniums are like that.... I'm hoping it will seed itself as I've left all the seed pods on.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 5:05PM
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Marie Tulin(6a Boston MA suburb)

If you are short on time, use good hand sized hunks with roots. Throw them on the ground you want covered. Put some dirt over them. Water regularly. They'll grow well with this abusive treatment.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 8:26PM
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can u brade perennial peppersJust wondering if u can
Posted by michael1846(6) June 24, 2013
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

Do you mean braid? As long as you don't break the stems, you can do that to any plant with long, flexible stems. Curious about your motivation...?

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 12:23PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

You probably want to ask this question on the vegetable forum, though the varieties of peppers I grow, the stems are a bit too easily broken to braid easily. You also might want to be clearer in your question. Do you mean braid the stems while they are growing? Or braid them after harvest for drying? I am not sure why you would want to as they are growing since it would make the pepper fruits crowded and so they would grow funny (unless they were a really tiny variety.) In most parts of the US, peppers are grown as annuals.

Here is a link that might be useful: vegetable forum

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 5:49PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

laceyvail, I have a Baptisia australis planted too close to the house foundation and I tried digging into it a couple of years ago to move it and gave up. I'd love to know what tools you used to get yours out? Did the roots you left in the ground sprout new growth and how long do the divisions take to bloom?

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 9:15AM
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donna_in_sask(2b)

I grew my first one from seed (years ago) and the other one I bought in a one gallon pot - it was on sale in July, so if you can get it cheap, that's the way to go. It flowered the following year if I recall correctly.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 12:44PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

oops...

wrong forum

ken

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 12:19PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

prunus are either shrubs or trees ...

why the perennial forum ???

there is some endemic disease.. of which i cant recall..

google the latin name .. followed by 'disease' .. you ought to find it rather easily ...

ken

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 8:49AM
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luis_pr(7b/8a Hurst, TX)

Thanks, I will try that search. Oh, I was not sure where to post the ? and found others had asked about this shrub before in here.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 9:43AM
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katob Z6ish, NE Pa

Is your anemic astilbe going to flower? It looks like it's got some stunted bloom stalk kind of thing going on... I would actually consider tossing it, the other one looks so mch better and will spread out soon enough. Why waste your time on the other? Also it might have something that could spread to the good one....

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 8:23AM
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weekendweeder(5A NY)

The bloom stalks *do* appear to be stunted. They are formed, but they aren't tall, and don't seem to be in the process of actually blooming. I suppose I can give it until the weekend, when I'll have the time to go out and dig around.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 9:38AM
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katob Z6ish, NE Pa

asiatic beetles are a pain, sorry to hear you have them.
I didn't want to spray anything so I ended up going out there with a pail of soapy water, picking them off and dropping them in the water to drown. It's a bit on the strange side to be out there in the dark going over your plants with a flashlight, but..... the neighbors will talk and there's always that awkward run in with an evening dog walker, but it seemed to control them enough.
I heard someone suggest Surround, which is a clay based spray that's supposed to work... there are plenty of other sprays with chemicals that should work too but I've never gotten that serious about control. Maybe someone else has better ideas.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 8:35AM
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katob Z6ish, NE Pa

asiatic beetles are a pain, sorry to hear you have them.
I didn't want to spray anything so I ended up going out there with a pail of soapy water, picking them off and dropping them in the water to drown. It's a bit on the strange side to be out there in the dark going over your plants with a flashlight, but..... the neighbors will talk and there's always that awkward run in with an evening dog walker, but it seemed to control them enough.
I heard someone suggest Surround, which is a clay based spray that's supposed to work... there are plenty of other sprays with chemicals that should work too but I've never gotten that serious about control. Maybe someone else has better ideas.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2013 at 8:36AM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Thanks 'gardenweed'. I am glad you like them. I do hope you will post some of your garden this season.

#6 is a Thalictrum aquilegiifolium known as "Sparkler" (from Terra Nova)

    Bookmark     June 22, 2013 at 9:07PM
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mnwsgal 4 MN(4)

Great close ups. My DH has an expensive camera (our son's reject when he upgraded to an even fancier and more expensive one) with several lens and other doodads. He hasn't learned to use all the extras and finds close ups are easier than ones of the whole plant or area. Since he has that good camera I haven't replaced my broken point and shoot.

    Bookmark     June 23, 2013 at 11:30PM
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