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Nice plant.

I have Rudbeckia "Viette's Little Suzy" which is more compact than "Goldsturm", but tends to sprawl if you don't stake it.

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I planted VLS last year and it didn't return for me :(.

The lavender looks amazing with the sedum! Pretty, pretty!

I agree, looks great! So much fun when that happens.

Sherry

...No I don't think so peren.all.... it gives me the opportunity to plant something else instead.... I haven't the time or space to put up with plants that underperform.... which is such a shame as it's not something I enjoy doing really....but I would need a huge garden for all my discards over the years....

Just reread this post about persicaria and thought I would add my experience to date with Painters Palette. I have had this in my gardens for 10 years? Maybe longer and have moved it around quite a bit. I have found here that it does the best with less than 5-6 hours of sun. It really appreciates a decent amount of shade. It looks great all season.

Sherry

I see the same thing almost every year. You don't need to do anything and they will bloom nicely next spring. It they bother you, you can cut the leaves off (but new ones will emerge, they are like grass), they will be fine next spring as well.

Thanks all. I've never had any that I planted, they've always been naturalized, so I'm sure they were just mowed with the grass!

I'm not sure what differences you are seeing between the two.

Agree - tansy. I like the foliage.

It is very pretty, nonetheless. I like it even more than Happy Days!

Such a nice thread, I like Helianthus as well.

@campanula: only reason I could think of is too much rain?

My Lemon Q I got from neighbours at the alottment, plonked them in the ground, hardly any TLC, and even in the next dry year they thrived.

now we had a terribly dry hot summer, some of the few things not bothered at all are the increasing clumps of LQ, growing through dry spells of 4weeks without rain.

my soil is heavy, "well wormed" and with a good organic part due to mulching every plant bit instead of composting it.

and I need to look for those other cultivars,

have a nice weekend, bye, Lin

Beautiful! I enjoyed seeing your photos!

So pretty!

Is Golden Arrows like a chartreuse color? I am always looking for lime or golden accents.

linnea, I am not good assigning names to colors but in my opinion the foliage of does have "lime or gold accents".

I have many of these that I've grown from seed, a simple task that's easy on the pocketbook! I like growing them out in numbers and selecting the best of the lot.

Mine has looked like this since mid July here in central Oklahoma. Not much Pow Wow for the buck in our hot summers. Like I said, its thirsty and doesn't seem to like the heat down here. It punks out early, did the same thing last year but yes, it survives winter. I'm sticking with the unimproved types, no molly coddling here even though I have taken pity on it and watered it every week since I have a salvia close by I'm trying to get established. Otherwise, even the foliage would be toast.

Since we are asking how'd they do.....I give it a low rating. To be fair, I have just about come to the conclusion that your summer further north is like our spring. These don't do summer here, down here I consider it a spring bloomer.

It wouldn’t be invasive around here, lol. It’s taken 6 years in the ground to get the 3 feet spread I have now. I have never seen an ivy bloom, not even the hoary old ones I take into the house for the winter, so no seeding here either.

Though considering the slowness of growth, I might be better off finding some of the dark green variety commonly sold as ground cover here. By the time I was more or less ready to plant this area, however, I couldn’t find any in the stores.

I justr looked up the name....Hedera helix Canariensis is Algerian ivy, with a much bigger leaf. I have that in some other pots. It is much pickier and harder to grow and root (here). I can't get it to branch readily by pinching the way I can the others. I like it, I wish it was easier. The white edged one has leaves no larger than one inch, most smaller.

looks a lot better than moms ...

just be patient ... keep in mind.. its going into fall ... the sun is in decline.. and things start growing slower.. then they did in spring/summer .... even in CA ...

ken

I know asteromoea mongolica was reclassified as kalimeris a while back, but I'm still confused on whether or not it is also the same plant as tanacetum parthenium? I gave a like to a gorgeous photo of tanacetum parthenium posted by Pitimpinai and put it in my wish list ideabook to remind me to get some, thinking it is the same plant that I planted a year ago labeled as 'asteromoea mongolica' which didn't survive. Am I confusing two entirely different plants?

rouge21 -- I've had this plant for a decade or so and I love it. I'm in MA so it blooms in Aug-Sept for me also. Nice delicate look, airy and dainty. Mine is somewhat of a spreader, tho not aggressive IMO and easy enough to yank out when it gets the urge to go where I don't want it. On the other hand, yours looks more like a single "bush" than mine, which are basically many single stems growing next to each other. Maybe I don't have what you have after all, but the bloom is the same and the leaves. Now I am very confused. Which is not unusual, LOL.

You are preaching to the converted peren.all!

The issue with this plant is the amount of room it requires to do its thing.

Are mine the only ones that do not clump and form a mass such as rouge21 shows in her photo? I definitely have Triloba but individual plants are quite delicate albeit tall as I am usually (5 feet). As they are scattered here and there throughout the gardens, they are not obstructive of the views of the rest of the plants at all...