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tamela_star(Zone 7)

I have mine in mostly shade growing around my mailbox. They are perfect for shade gardens. I have dark purple, pink, and the wild native ones that are pink with a yellow center. All of mine were from seed trades on here. Along with my fall blooming toad lilies, they are my favorite shade flower. I will be putting some columbine seeds up for trade soon. I have so many seed pods developing this year.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2013 at 2:59PM
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wieslaw59

My relationship with the bought ones was short (they die after year 3 at the latest). But they left me with a lot of babies, one uglier than the other.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 8:55PM
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wieslaw59

Yeona, some azaleas have a very strong fragrance(especially Soir de Paris and Jolie Madamme), you can smell it from a distance. Some are fragrant if you put your nose into the flowers. Some do not have any detectable fragrance. None of them has an unpleasant smell(unlike tree peonies, which can have horrifying smell)

    Bookmark     June 8, 2012 at 8:03PM
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wieslaw59

I have added some new pictures(I HATE the new photobucket, can't find anything)

Some double clones of Ranunculus ficaria

Trillium erectum album

Brunnera Jack Frost and Trillium albidum

A very pale Uvularia grandiflora(very late to emerge and bloom in comparison to the dark yellow ones)

A very intense pink clone of Podophyllum peltatum. Emerges much later than the others.

A lighter pink one

Smilacina racemosa amplexicaulis, from North West USA. Taller than the straight species. Very fragrant, my pet plant.

Double Trillium grandiflorum

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 8:39PM
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karin_mt(Zone 4)

Whoa! Not only a fantastic gardener but a highly skilled photographer too. Go you! Thanks for sharing and keep the posts coming (please).

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 7:26PM
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jennypat Zone 3b NW MN(Zone 3b NW MN)

Thank you, am just a photographer wanna be! LOL I like taking pictures, and just do my best.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 7:46PM
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jayco(5b NY)

Wow, it's huge! Thanks for all the helpful comments and pictures. Good thing I asked, I was thinking it would be a few feet high like my regular Rudbeckia, but clearly this is a different beast altogether.

It is pretty, though!

    Bookmark     June 2, 2013 at 5:56PM
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wieslaw59

It has never produced a runner here. It is a real clumper.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 7:26PM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

An Aesculus, but not hippocastanum. You could try the Name the Plant Forum or the Tree Forum for further input.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 4:47AM
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wieslaw59

My Rodgersia aesculifolia has identical leaves.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 7:23PM
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ninamarie(4Ont.)

The scent is strongest before the flowers fully open.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 9:00AM
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v1rt

Thanks for the info. If I remember correctly, it was around 1:30pm when we were walking along the shores of Mackinac. It was extremely fragrant but very heavenly. Lilac is very strong too but milkweed's fragrance embarrasses the fragrance of lilacs. :)

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 6:39PM
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dowlinggram

Nothing grows faster than Creeping jenny. I pull it out by the handfuls in spring to try to keep it in check and still have to do more during the summer to try to control it. I never fertilize it or give it any care

It looks like there are still spots of it alive, I'd Give it a bit of fertilizer and water and stand back and watch it grow. IF the roots are still alive it may send out new growth

    Bookmark     May 31, 2013 at 6:47PM
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alexavd(7A)

Thanks to everyone for their comments, the encouragement, and for the compliment! :-)

Yeah I've had creeping jenny for several years, and I know how fast it grows. I just wasn't sure if it had been killed past the point of it recovering, without me having to re-establish it with plugs. Would prefer not to have to do that. Y'know, at what point does a plant become so defoliated that it cannot recover --- I know it varies for each plant, and creeping jenny being so robust is probably pretty tough. I was just hoping that a) it would come back, and b) it would come back fast, without me having to wait the whole season.

I'd be happy to send sawflies your way... :-) All I do to control my creeping jenny is to hand-pull it from around the bases of the plants in spring, and then when I mow along where the grass meets the bed, it gets a lot of it. If it starts going into the grass too far I just spray a little Round Up between the bed and the lawn, and that will keep it contained all season. I don't mind doing that too much because when it's established it chokes out the weeds pretty well, and I don't have to mulch the bed every year.

We have had a lot of rain in the last day or two, and it seems to be responding to that. I'm seeing new growths at the ends, but not as much along the stems yet. But at least now there is new growth, which means they aren't going to just keel over.

For all its aggressiveness, creeping jenny does make a nice background in a bed. My neighbors all ooh and ahh over how great the bed looks. Haven't heard much of that lately, so I'm guessing it's because the creeping jenny isn't looking so great.

Thanks again!

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 3:35PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

RyseRyse, sounds like a few things. It could be the soil, light, age of the plant. All geranium do not demand the same conditions. I have some that like full sun, some that perform and grow perfect in the shade in horrible soil. One dose not like good soil.

If you find a plant that does not react the way your want it for the position in your garden and you do not have alternate space to plant it to make it happy then the only thing you can do is dig it out and get a plant that makes you happy.

Gardening is a challenge. I had a normal Suburban yard so I know how hard it is to have limited space. I am not in that position now. I move plants around until I find its happy place. I do not blame the plant.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 12:18PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

Double post sorry

This post was edited by marquest on Mon, Jun 3, 13 at 13:40

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 1:36PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

very nice pic...

though its performing well .. or is that goodly??? .. lol

you can sure tell its wants more sun... trying to get away from that tree ...

ken

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 11:02AM
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Nevermore44 - 6a

It gets hit with the sunrise and sunset.. and is shaded a bit in the middle afternoon from the tree. It's actually flopping over in the middle in all directions. I should stake it.

That poplar has a bad case of chlorosis... might take him down soon just to get a replacement growing sooner then later.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 12:14PM
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gardenweed_z6a

My guess would be deer--I don't have them where I am but I do have squirrels, chipmunks & bunnies. None of my astilbes or hosta have ever even been nibbled--I'm guessing because I'm not in their established path but a neighbor's shade garden just 3 houses up the road from me gets chomped by deer every year.

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 8:05AM
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CloverClover: weed or not?
Posted by cptk1 May 31, 2013
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mosswitch

Used to be people deliberately planted clover lawns, but it went out of fashion about a half century ago. It has sneaked back into my country lawn, until now it's almost pure clover again. Personally, I like it. The honey bees love it, and the grandkids spend hours hunting for 4-leaf clovers. I have both the red clover, the blooms of which I harvest and dry for clover teas, and the white clover. Besides, it smells good!

Sandy

    Bookmark     June 2, 2013 at 1:11PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

oh.. i forgot ...

clover in the lawn flowers .. and when it does... there are bees everywhere ... [no lack of them in the country] ...

and if children w/o shoes step on them... there will be hell to pay ... [now my kids have laptops.. and dont play outside anymore...]

the upside of it.. on my sand.. its one of the plants.. unlike grass.. that does not go summer dormant ... one might say.. evergreen ...

ken

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 7:47AM
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docmom_gw Zone 5 MI(5)

Kevin,
Thanks for that link! I'm very relieved to know that I can water whenever I have time without worrying that I'll over stress my plants. I worried the most about fragile seedlings that were just planted out. They need water ASAP, but I can't plant everything before 11 am on a Saturday morning.LOL. Thanks again.

Martha

    Bookmark     June 2, 2013 at 10:19PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

nothing.. in a pot.. should be in full sun at 90 degrees ... or ever really ....

it has nothing to do with the plant leave tolerance ...

it has to do with how hot the pot got.. and how you cooked its roots ... interfering with water management ....

not only does the heat make the plant transpire heavily ... but it interfered with the roots ability to process enough water to offset it all ... and depending on pot size.. perhaps dried out ....

all my pots are kept in very bright shade... here in MI.. regardless of the plants sun tolerance ... and its the same reason no nursery worth its salt.. leaves potted plants in full sun ... unless there are hundreds of them stacked close together... to shield the pots themselves from sun ... observe next time you are plant shopping.. you are rarely standing in blinding sun.. looking at pots ... shade cloth.. lathe house.. greenhouses.. etc ... [bigboxstore is not a nursery .. lol .. they do have them out on the blacktop often .. and most of us know what they look like after a few weeks]

make any sense??

ken

    Bookmark     June 3, 2013 at 7:44AM
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terrene(5b MA)

Your plants should react as though you pinched the stalks - I do this with Echinacea 'Summer Sky' because it is very floppy, and occasionally trim off flower buds so for other reasons - to delay blooming, produce a bushier plant, or let the plant put more energy into roots and shoots.

I think your plant will be okay as long as the ground hog didn't eat all the leaves off, which would severely deplete the plant. If it ate only the buds, you will probably get side shoots that will flower.

In the meantime use a barrier or repellent to protect the plant.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2013 at 8:34PM
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bogturtle(SE NJ 7a)

Not for trade, but Wellsweep Herb Farm, which I once visited in Port Murray, NJ, lists it as a type of oregano for sale.
I downloaded their catalog today and will look it over.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2013 at 7:31PM
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Campanula UK Z8

um, yours are probably the scrambling type and there is not really any way to keep them neat and hummocky. You could try to support them with pea sticks (prunings from woody shrubs) or even encourage them to grow up and between other plants but no, cutting them back will result in losing flowers since they are formed on the continually extending stems.

    Bookmark     June 2, 2013 at 5:12PM
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