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I think I want to put so much stuff in is because I don't really know what I am going for. I am going to have pots with annuals. I am going to take the larch advice and work with my two beautiful mound blue spruces. They were regular 150 and I got the for 50 because the Canadian tire put the wrong sale price on them out in the nursery and decided to honour it. Yay for me.
The house wall is 9ft + 11ft (so 20 feet in length total), the depth is 5ft 10inches along the 11ft side and 8ft 9inches on 9 ft side. The veranda wall is 3ft in the jog and the rock was is just over 4ft high. The house faces east and get sun from the early morning till about 2.
I was thinking of hydrangeas and lilies because I love them but would be open to putting anything in there. How my conifers should I put in? How many flowering shrubs? I have 6 acres of grass developed yard that I have with different trees, veggies and bushes so I can put some of my favourites in other area.

SunnyAlberta ... I live nearby at Spruce Grove ... 'Limelight' hydrangea would show off very well against that dark stone, my 'Limelight' has peformed excellent. Two years ago, I planted 'Incrediball' and for whatever the reason the plant died, though put in another one (this time situated near to the house) and the thing has wintered well, was a beauty last summer with massive blooms!. If you're into roses, 'Morden Belle' would also show nicely ... so would a 'Ville de Lyon' clematis ...
Terrance

I have had Coreopsis Moonbeam for several years and it is always the last perennial to show it's head. I've divided it and spread it to other areas and it is the last to show up where ever it is. All my other perennials are up but not this coreopsis. I can't count the number of years I thought I'd lost it but in the end it always showed up so I'm waiting once again
Don't lose heart. I'm positive it will show up eventually


There isn't a Gaillardia named Peach Melba that I know of. Did you perhaps mean Heuchera Peach Melba? Or the peachy colored Gaillardia 'Arizona Apricot'?
If it is the coral-bell you will definitely know if it is dead or not. I've found 'Marmalade' to be a much longer lived coral-bell than most in the orange-y shades.
If it was a Gaillardia you may try a Coreopsis (tickseed). Lots of yellow varieties- 'Nana' is a nice dwarf one. The coppery 'Sienna Sunset' is also great if you needed something in that shade.
I don't grow acanthus either, but I would give it a bit more time. It depends largely on the species planted too; some are hardier than others. If it is dead, Baptisia (false indigo) may be a replacement option because it has "spiky" like flowers.
I'm sure others will have more ideas too ;-)
CMK

D'oh! It's Gallo Peach, not Peach Melba.
The butterfly bushes are fine--in fact, they never completely lost all their green leaves even in the most brutal part of winter.
Coreopsis might work.
Baptisia is beautiful but I wonder if it's too big? Acanthus sends up a narrower bunch of spikes almost like foxglove. Baptisia looks pretty bushy, and it's going to be next to a hydrangea bush.

Maybe it would make more sense to have the subject line read Plant of the Cetenary rather than 'perennial'
I had tried to change it earlier but one cannot edit the "subject of a posting". Not a glaring error given that if one is interested all is revealed when one visits that link.

Only anemone I am aware of with the name 'Panda' is Anemone coronaria - white with a black center. Most of the colored forms have black centers anyway, so I'd guess "double red panda" is just a double flowered red :-)
It would require the same culture as all the other forms of Anemone coronaria, aka poppy anemones - a spring blooming, fall planted bulb not reliably hardy below zone 7. In colder areas, these are often planted in spring as started bulbs but should be considered annuals.

I'm not sure what the right answer is but I'll tell you what I did.... :-) One of my tree peonies threw out suckers in its first year or two. I was curious to see what would happen so I left them alone - I wasn't all that keen on the tree peony (its leaves get ugly with fungus by late summer....) so I didn't particularly care if it died! The suckers produced beautiful pale pink single flowers. I love single peonies so I was really hoping that the 'tree' part would die and leave me with the single herbaceous peony of the rootstock! After a couple of years the single peony disappeared and only the 'tree' portion is still there. When I did some checking, I found something that said the rootstock suckers usually ony appear in the first couple of years. So I don't think you need to do a lot of deep digging - just cut them down if they worry you.


I have rabbits..and squirrels..and lots of tulips..not saying it's not a challenge, but I drip garlic water all over the area..the buggers never come near the strong garlic smell.
I suppose if the tulips were near my front door...the smell might be noticeable...


Thanks much!
-Molie, I think that is 'Marmalade' Heuchera behind the Tiarella- it's the longest lived one I've tried, along with Palace Purple. I planted the tulips/muscari/iris combo because I love blues, whites, and yellows together. Had no idea the base of the tulip would match the iris so well though!
-Ech, I lost the tag to those Iris years ago, but I'm fairly sure they are I. pallida 'Variegata'. I'm not sure about the difference between the white vs. yellow variegation either. Half the pics online of the variegated pallida show more white-ish while the others are more yellow. I seem to recall mine start out more yellow and then turn creamy toward summer.
-fun, I LOVE that lavender/golden conifer combo. I'm a bit envious that you can grow Spanish lavender perennially. It is so much more attractive than the L. angustifolia types imo...
CMK

funnthsun, I like that story. I purchased a BS last year because I am putting together a dead zone garden. Everything I put in that bed dies. I have put homemade compost, lots of Fall leaves for 2 years but everything seemed to die.
It is next to the driveway and I think it is the salt that is being shoveled into that bed. But what comes back is old Hosta Lancifolia and the blood sorrel. I am Okay with that at least something is coming up with color. LOL

If you have the time to uncover them for morning sun (at night, I suppose) then I would let them have some sun in the early morning hours- then cover them by 9 or 10. You'll want to water them daily probably anyway- so the paper needs to come off for that.
I agree about watering the whole bed--- the surrounding dry soil will suck the water away from your plants otherwise.
This post was edited by lola-lemon on Wed, May 1, 13 at 22:46

Those are all great ideas everyone! I did make some shade out of some tomato cages and fabric. I have watered them pretty good too. They seem to be coming back for me. I think it's supposed to be overcast here the next few days, so we'll see how they continue to do. I will keep everyone updated.


My thoughts were similar to Kevin's. In particular, climbing hydrangea (which is a great plant) can get 30 or 40 feet tall and would definitely cause problems with any wires.
There is a variegated vine, Silvervein creeper, Parthenocissus henryana, related to but not as vigorous as Virginia creeper, Parthenocissus quinquefolia. It is only hardy to zone 6, and I am not sure how that compares to Canadian zones.
Major Wheeler, a selection of the native honeysuckle Lonicera sempervirens, is really nice, but is a stem twiner, not like Parthenocisus and Hydrangea which have sort of suction cups, so I am not sure how it would work with your arbor. It is fully hardy here.

Do you mean literally sold by Amazon or sold by a third party through Amazon? I don't think Amazon sells plants straight from them, but I could be wrong. It's probably a third-party seller, which means Amazon is just the middle man.
I've purchased plants from Amazon with success, although I know most are leary about it. The main rule of thumb is to make sure the seller has LOTS of good feedback, then I would be comfortable with the transaction. The hidden gem with Amazon that most people overlook is that they have the best customer service on the planet. Customer is always right with them, they will back you all the way. That makes me feel better when dealing with a third-party seller, knowing Amazon will take good care of me if there is an issue.
I just bought Glow Girl Spireas and Annie's Magic Ball Arborvitaes from Amazon with a third-party seller in January. Plants are doing great, all except one Glow Girl, who has been listless since breaking dormancy. I sent the seller a pic, they immediately refunded me and told me to process a new purchase so that they could get a replacement plant out to me. I was pleasantly surprised, b/c this seller didn't have such great reviews, but I took a chance b/c I couldn't find glow girls anywhere else for anywhere near that price. I felt safe doing that with Amazon, though. I could have purchased straight from the seller's website, they are an online nursery, but I wanted that extra coverage since their feedback was average.
Hope that helps!


CMK, I didn't realize it had dark foliage too, it is very attractive! Thanks for the photo of it.
On that epimedium link I posted, at the top of the page, it has a link to Darrell Probst for more info. If you click on it you will see an email pop up addressed to Karen Perkins, Garden Vision Epimediums. I know that is a little confusing, but they were once married and then divorced and he now does coreopsis breeding and she kept the epimedium business. If you email her, you can either order off that page, or she will send you a catalog.
They have some expensive plants, but also some very reasonable prices. Have no idea about the shipping to the West Coast though. They are in New England. I just ordered herbs from Oregon and the shipping was $13. Brother. I don't do that often, I hate to pay shipping too.
Good luck!




I swear by dried blood. It's granulated, in the organic fertiliser section. Sprinkle it on the plants and at the perimeter of your property. It has no odor.
Thanks for the input. I'm going to pick up some of the deer repellant at the nursery today, then. Not sure which one I'll get, I'll see what this other nursery I'm going to has. I'm going to get it and spray my lillies ASAP! (Plus I'm working all week so if it stinks up the garden to high heck for a couple days it won't matter, I won't be out there LOL!)
This post was edited by mxk3 on Sun, May 5, 13 at 12:47