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diggerdee zone 6 CT

Ah.... well, let's hope it makes it through this winter!

Dee

    Bookmark     January 25, 2013 at 2:44PM
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Thyme2dig NH Zone 5

This thread has been great fun to read! Those covers would be toast in any winter where we might get 3-4' of snow or an ice storm. And to think they now come with christmas lights built in to draw even more attention to them.

There are many shrubs that I've "thought" about purchasing knowing they would need some protection. I do suffer from a fairly bad case of zone envy every now and then, but more often than not, I put the idea out of my head and admire the shrubs in catalogs, online or in someone else's southern garden.

Now, if there were in fact a chocolate tree (mswngal, love that idea!)that could sprout a supply of Dove Dark all season, I would sign up for that and baby it year round no matter what it took!

As for those horrid burlap-wrapped shrubs, we just watched A Nightmare Before Christmas and those things look like the boogeyman in that movie!

    Bookmark     January 26, 2013 at 9:16AM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

Another user of fire. I like that.

Kevin

    Bookmark     January 25, 2013 at 10:06AM
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tsugajunkie z5 SE WI

Oh yeah, I can see burning the grass in Ken's pix every spring. That would add another dimension to the display.

tj

    Bookmark     January 25, 2013 at 10:29PM
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gardenweed_z6a

I grew it from seed via winter sowing a couple years ago & it came up the last two growing seasons. Germination from seed was prolific. I liked it for the delicate, lacy flowers + foliage--made a nice contrast with bigger-leafed perennials. I don't normally water my garden except for things that really need extra moisture beyond what Ma Nature provides and it never showed signs of needing a helping hand to thrive.

    Bookmark     January 24, 2013 at 7:17AM
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ninamarie(4Ont.)

It did not self-seed, but I often think my gardens are too full for even a seed to find a foothold.

    Bookmark     January 25, 2013 at 6:37PM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

Re loosetrife: purple loosetrife is an agressive, invasive plant that colonizes wet areas and is no longer available from legitimate nurseries. Gooseneck loostrife, an entirely different plant, is very agressive in your garden, but will not take over the wild. And which do you have?

    Bookmark     January 22, 2013 at 6:35AM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

Hi lacyvail - there's been quite a discussion on the id of this 'Loosestrife'. We still don't have a definitive id.

Here is a link that might be useful: Which 'Loosestrife'?

    Bookmark     January 22, 2013 at 6:42AM
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jan_on zone 5b

In just 4 months this tree peony will be in bloom again!

    Bookmark     January 20, 2013 at 1:10PM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

Wow, I always wanted some blue iris like those, both of them. Wow! I don't begrudge your dreams of UT summer, but mine are of AL spring!

    Bookmark     January 21, 2013 at 11:08AM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

It'll still be zone 5 for you even if it gets down below -20F, as zones are determined by average low winter temperatures (which you probably know, but some people aren't aware of how zones are determined).

    Bookmark     January 21, 2013 at 8:34AM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Not true eric_oh...at least not in Canada. There are many more factors that are taken into consideration in determining plant hardiness zones (Canada). And I quote from the AGRICULTURE CANADA website:

Agriculture Canada scientists created a plant hardiness map using Canadian plant survival data and a wider range of climatic variables, including minimum winter temperatures, length of the frost-free period, summer rainfall, maximum temperatures, snow cover, January rainfall and maximum wind speed.

And right now with these cold winter temperatures there is an unusual lack of snow cover.

    Bookmark     January 21, 2013 at 9:31AM
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Campanula UK Z8

Yeah, it is not uncommon for shoots to appear in late autumn. No problem, the leaves are hardy. The flowers do OK, at least with the smaller narcissus such as February Gold and Hawera - have had them poking up out of the snow.

    Bookmark     January 15, 2013 at 4:50PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

Mine haven't had issues when they have done this in previous years, and I'm also in NH.

    Bookmark     January 19, 2013 at 3:37PM
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morz8(Washington Coast Z8b)

Blazing Star is liatris, not a lythrum, not a lysimachia :)

Similar in appearance and also easy to confuse could be Verbena hastata: blue vervain, and Epilobium: fireweed. If going by memory, you may need a photo of your plants when growth begins for accurate ID.

    Bookmark     January 18, 2013 at 11:30PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

And here I very much like my "Yellow Loosestrife" (Lysimachia punctata). For sure the foliage is nothing to write home about but in bloom there are tons of flowers (actually quite unique i.e. little yellow star like blooms with a light orange centre) lasting 3 to 4 weeks. I have it in a small 'medallion' garden surrounded by interlock so it does not spread. Here is a picture of it from June 2011.

This post was edited by rouge21 on Sun, Jan 20, 13 at 6:04

    Bookmark     January 19, 2013 at 8:52AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Yes, Wellspring, I have definitely been a path dreamer for awhile now. And I still have a good portion of the garden that needs a new pathway, but it's on the back burner for now.

I did find a photo of our pathway when we finished it. It's pretty simple and we used rocks to create a little bed there that simply has ferns and other shade perennials in it for now. I have thoughts of adding something vertical there, but who knows when. Another thing I like about the path is that it is under a high canopy of a large Maple tree and near some full grown spruce in the neighbor's yard, so we get a nice layer of needles and that layer of pollen that falls off the tree in the late spring, and it then makes the bark mulch look very natural and part of the landscape. You can see it is easy to navigate with a four foot wide gate that allows for the wheelbarrel etc. I couldn't find a photo of the pavers on the other side of the gate yet, but I'll look again. I need to catch up with my photo labeling.

    Bookmark     January 18, 2013 at 6:08PM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

My question is, does this path get enough traffic to rule out grass? Or is the situation too shady to rule out grass? I have some grass paths, with garden beds on either side. It takes about 15 seconds with the lawn mower to maintain them.

    Bookmark     January 18, 2013 at 6:09PM
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BlueBirdPeony(5b NE Ohio)

Hi, purple. Thanks for the help on both posts. I don't know that I did smell number four? Is it good or bad? This thread has been immensely helpful for me because a few of those plants (especially the lilac) really puzzled me last summer. I have two other lilac trees and they are so wildly different from this one. I thought it might be some weird variety of crepe myrtle. The lilacs all smell divine. As do the peonies of course.
The viburnum smells great also. I'm glad to know its name so that I can learn how to prune it. It grows in a strange pattern.
I'm wishing that I had better pictures of the beds and not just the individual plants. Our garden is really neat.

    Bookmark     January 18, 2013 at 11:12AM
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Tiffany, purpleinopp GardenWeb, Z8b Opp, AL(8B AL)

Oh yes, #4 should smell good, there are very few that don't. That particular one looks like it smells especially good, similar to carnation probably, but better. Worth getting your tush up in the air for, I hope, predict.

Totally agree, you've got a great yard! The plants pictured all look great to me, even the grass.

    Bookmark     January 18, 2013 at 1:05PM
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woodyoak zone 5 Canada(5b)

LOL campanula re the acanthus comment!

QE rose - We love the flower shape, color, scent, disease resistance, and hardiness. But it is a leggy thing that is only attractive on the top! That's why I'm going to see if I can try to make it grow as a tree-form. I planted a 'Little Henry' Itea shrub beside/under it last fall. If the rose pruning works, the Itea should hide the stem of the rose (except in the winter) and add more flowers lower down, plus fall color. We'll see how it goes.... If it doesn't work QE will probably leave the garden.

If you like wildlings, campanula, have you ever tried growing the Angel roses from seed? They're supposed to be Rosa sinensis minima according to the source I got the seeds from (I think it's usually spelled chinensis - but that's not how the place where I got the seeds spelled it....) Most of the flowers on mine are small singles in shades of pink but the bloom is profuse and it blooms for months. And then they have vivid red hips for winter. They quickly form a hedge. Nothing seems to bother them and they're quite hardy. Sometimes there's a bit of tip die-back over winter that needs trimming off but doesn't cause any serious damage. They are prickly little devils though! This picture from the end of October shows both the flowers and hips:

    Bookmark     January 16, 2013 at 12:57PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

yes.. yes ... i was speaking of hybrid T's .... there are more bulletproof shrub type roses ... but again ... not in sand ...

ken

    Bookmark     January 16, 2013 at 1:19PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

veronica.... next time.. start your own post ...

anyway ... keep it properly watered.. but NOT sodden.. and see if it rebuds..

lets hope it just went dormant from lack of water ...

only time will tell..

ken

ps: and next time.. leave it with a friend... lol.. that hindsight is always 20/20

    Bookmark     January 15, 2013 at 12:54PM
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vmguimaraes(6)

Thanks Ken. Let's hope you are right.
Don't you think that if it was only lack of water it would react when I watered it?

I am sorry if I did not start a new post. I thought it was more adequate this way.
Veronica

    Bookmark     January 15, 2013 at 1:10PM
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mxk3(Zone 6 SE MI)

Yea, yea - I never got around to potting them up over the holiday. Like I said, somebody has time management issues...

How late I was getting to your place - an hour or two or three?

This post was edited by mxk3 on Mon, Jan 14, 13 at 20:21

    Bookmark     January 14, 2013 at 7:10PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

I avoided that time management struggle this year, and as an added bonus, I saved money. I didn't buy bulbs! (g)

    Bookmark     January 15, 2013 at 9:35AM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

No problem, people are glad to help. I was just anticipating the semi-annual thread about how annoying Latin/botanical names are and how gardeners who use them are just showing off. :)

    Bookmark     January 10, 2013 at 8:38AM
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growlove(zone4 Ia.)

To any one interested. I placed a few of my seeds in a damp paper towel inside a plastic bag on top of the frig. In three days little roots were shooting so have now planted them in a pot and will move them to the green house. Perhaps it is much too early and they may get large and spindly, but I have many other seeds thanks to a friendly gardener from Oklahoma. No expense, so I can experiment. Love those gardening friends.

    Bookmark     January 13, 2013 at 8:00PM
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plantladyco(5)

I had to refresh the page to see that...yeah!
Thanks. Just signed up for the email list.

    Bookmark     January 10, 2013 at 6:35PM
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gardenofeden777(8a central Louisiana)

Awesome!! I've ordered from them twice and been very happy!
Yay, as I wanted the yellow and Brakelights red yucca and haven't been able to find them anywhere else.

Thanks ontnative for the heads up!

Rena'

    Bookmark     January 13, 2013 at 7:20PM
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