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cyn427(zone 7, Northern VA)

Hi daysquid. You are not far from me and we also have clay and poor drainage in lots of places. Elsewhere where drainage is good, it gets hard and dry. Terrible.

Anyway, I just put in some Nepeta which is a beautiful blue (Walker's Low) and so far so good. Anemones are not fussy either and you can get pretty pinks. I have Honorine Joubert which is white and they are just showing buds now. Very pretty in bloom.

Aquilegia and Iris are good choices. Also, ajuga has wonderful blue flowers in spring and is a good ground cover, too. Echinacea attracts goldfinches and it is fun to watch them perch on the seed heads. Eupatorium (Joe Pye Weed) is pretty, too. I love phlox but you may get powdery mildew, so if that bothers you or if it is a spot that everyone will see up close, that might not be the best. Perfect from a distance though.

If you want a large shrub or small tree, try Vitex Agnus (Chaste Tree). It has beautiful blue flowers. I have two and just started to limb them up to more of a tree form this year. Of course, crape myrtles come in just about any shade of pink or purple you could want.

I do use annuals for color and one of my favorite blues is Plumbago. So pretty in the ground or in containers. For a spot that is easy to water (I have the best luck near the bird baths where I dump and change water daily), Astilbe comes in many pink shades and is beautiful with hosta which can be your chartreuse color. Hosta will do fine with sun as long as you water, so putting the astilbe, hosta and plumbago together would be spectacular, IMHO. Limelight hydrangea also likes some sun and would give you the green which then fades to a pinkish shade.

Clematis has all those colors, so if you have a support for them to climb, those would be great. I don't have so much luck with them, but I know many here have spectacular examples. Camellias are evergreen and come in pinks and whites, too.

Not sure if you are looking for big plants or small, but maybe this will give you a start. Others will chime in with even better ideas, I am sure!

Just visit your local nursery and see what appeals to you. This time of year, I also buy some pansies which overwinter wonderfully and start me out with purples and blues in the spring (until they get leggy and have to come out). I have even had blooms poking through snow. Fun.

    Bookmark     August 25, 2012 at 11:45AM
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mzdee(6b)

We're neighbors and I have same issues. If I can find a spot to dig in, I'm a happy girl. Clay soil is the worst.
Knock out roses are my best performers. I bought little scraggly bushes a year or so ago. Put them in the ground. Never fertilize and never water. They are spectacular. They start blooming late May and never quit until early November. Hydrangeas do ok. I planted six this year and they have done well. I have a Merrit that is still blooming. Just about anywhere you're lucky enough to dig will be a good spot. Amend the planting hole with shredded leaves and shredded or torn newspaper. Backfill with a mixture of backfill soil and potting mix.This has worked well for me. Hopefully something here will work for you as well.

    Bookmark     August 25, 2012 at 9:50PM
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aftermidnight Zone7b B.C. Canada

Mine isn't very stylish but it works really well when I get into some serious potting up or perennial dividing, I need lots of room :). It was built to a height comfortable for me either standing or sitting on a stool. It's made from half a sheet of plywood (cut lengthwise) and it's hinged to 3 posts in my lathhouse, it hangs down out of the way when not in use and when I want to use it it's lifted up and held by chains at each end. I took a picture of one end in it's up position. This could be hinged to a wall inside or outside of a potting shed. Annette

1 Like    Bookmark     July 7, 2012 at 5:25PM
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Marie Tulin(6a Boston MA suburb)

I had not checked for replies in a long time. Thank you everyone for taking the time to answer.
Marie

    Bookmark     August 25, 2012 at 12:59PM
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Nevermore44 - 6a

If it's aster's yellow.. then yes you will have to destroy it.. roots and all. Just make sure it's not just mite damage with is very prevalent this year as well. Below is a site where you can compare the two issues.

http://www.clemson.edu/extension/hgic/plants/landscape/flowers/hgic1182.html

    Bookmark     August 24, 2012 at 8:53AM
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judyhi(6)

Thank you kindly for your response and link. I appreciate it. It's hard for me to say goodbye!

    Bookmark     August 25, 2012 at 7:30AM
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tsugajunkie z5 SE WI

This year's weather patterns made for ideal powdery mildew conditions in some areas. If the others are resistant, they should be fine in normal years.

tj

    Bookmark     August 24, 2012 at 4:30PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Outstanding. Thanks for posting these impressive pictures.

    Bookmark     August 23, 2012 at 4:35PM
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Nevermore44 - 6a

Awesome plant!

    Bookmark     August 24, 2012 at 8:53AM
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Bumblebeez SC Zone 7

I have some in very dry, full sun all day, poor soil, on a hill, and those never flop. I have a large mass planting in good soil with mulch but still full sun and those do flop but are full and lush. They look really nice in winter.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2012 at 12:04PM
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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

I do not stake them. I do cut them back again if I remember but mine get too much shade and always flop.

    Bookmark     August 23, 2012 at 7:41PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

it is the act of gardening I enjoy

This is so me. And that is why it is so hard to leave well enough alone (assuming one has no more 'gardenable' space remaining) as I just love all that is associated with gardening e.g. thinking where to put a new plant which leads to where to move that existing plant and then the actual steps of digging and planting...it is an obsession isnt it?

    Bookmark     August 22, 2012 at 6:02PM
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katob Z6ish, NE Pa

I had hoped to take more pictures this year, but that didn't work out as planned.

Spring was so dry here there was little done in the way of moving and dividing, so I'm hoping to get alot of that done this fall. I'm also going to try and do more clumps and fewer of the collector's groups of one.

Also I've been cheating on soil prep.... I need to start adding compost and digging things over a little better when planting.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2012 at 9:16PM
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gazania_gw

The first bloom flush begins in early to mid June and lasts about 1 month. It rests maybe 3 o 4 weeks and then sends out a few blooms here and there till a hard freeze. Those big poppy sized lemon yellow flowers make a show even if there is only 2 o 3 of them at a time. This is a perennial that I would not be without in my flower beds.

I am having a hard time believing that I and some of the posters above are talking about the same plant. I can honestly say that the number of volunteers that I have come upon from the Missouri Primrose has probably been less than a dozen in 14 years. My mounds of it have stayed at around 2 1/2 to 3 feet so they aren't spreading by runners. It dies back to the ground in winter.

Be aware that those flowers only last a day, opening in early evening and dieing off by evening the next day, to be replaced by new ones.

I deadhead by taking the flowering stem off at bottom of the seed pod that forms at the base of the stem where it attaches to it's trailing branch. I don't get them all, as I garden from a handicapped scooter, and can't reach those at the back of the mounds.

    Bookmark     August 21, 2012 at 9:25PM
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Campanula UK Z8

Oh Gazania - my EP is the lolloping O.biennis, not the neat little O.missouriensis - an altogether different proposition.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2012 at 6:00PM
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tsugajunkie z5 SE WI

Also may be Ligularia dentata 'Desdemona', which I grow. Like rouge21, I prefer them over the spikes like Ligularia stenocephala 'The Rocket', although both have their place.

tj

    Bookmark     August 22, 2012 at 5:17PM
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wieslaw59

Definitely not Marie Britt.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2012 at 5:20PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Here I think is a better picture of this same small action packed garden:

    Bookmark     August 22, 2012 at 12:49PM
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Pat z6 MI

Sooooooo beautiful. Thank you.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2012 at 2:15PM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

A very nice collection of colors and leaf forms. I especially like the Russian sage/Rose combo.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2012 at 10:45PM
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karin_mt(Zone 4)

Really nice. Thanks for sharing! I appreciate how tidy and well-planned it is. I'm envious of that. You've done a beautiful job and the gardens work especially well with your home. Bravo!

    Bookmark     August 22, 2012 at 9:40AM
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Thyme2dig NH Zone 5

Is the issue that you want to remove the JP because it's too tall, too many bees, or both. I have to agree that it gets loaded with bees but I deadhead plants all around anything covered in bees and they really are quite docile. My taller JP was driving me crazy becuase I had to stake it from flopping over each year. So, a number of years ago I decided to start whacking back the taller late-summer fall bloomers like JP weed, ironweed, tall rudbeckias, etc...It works quite well. I'm not even careful about it. I just take shears and cut it down to about 2 1/2'. I'm not very scientific about it. I've found it works great to control the height. My JP that would normally be 8-9 feet gets to about 5'. Maybe next year you could experiment and try cutting it back early in the season to try to control the height? If it's a bee thing, then that's a whole other story. But I don't think there really is a substitute for joe pye's habit.

    Bookmark     August 21, 2012 at 9:42PM
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wieslaw59

Eupatorium cannabinum Flore Pleno is much shorter. It does not produce seed according to some sources. It is a clumper.

    Bookmark     August 22, 2012 at 8:16AM
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Peony5(6)

Oriental Lilies
Coneflowers

    Bookmark     August 21, 2012 at 9:42AM
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mnwsgal 4 MN(4)

My first brugmansia bloom this year is wonderful--have to walk out to the garden in the evening just to breathe in the fragrance.

    Bookmark     August 21, 2012 at 10:57PM
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flora_uk(SW UK 8/9)

Never ever needed to stake HJ. Totally fool proof and tough as old boots.

    Bookmark     August 21, 2012 at 4:59AM
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Campanula UK Z8

yep, another vote for HJ - a classic, imo.

    Bookmark     August 21, 2012 at 8:43AM
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terrene(5b MA)

I don't know what causes it but my Asclepias tuberosa looks like that too! It hasn't been a good year for this plant because it doesn't usually look this bad. I have trimmed back some of the plants to see if there will be new growth. The pregnant Monarch females seem to prefer the tender fresh growth tips any, and I routine clip back other species of Asclepias.

This year, I have NO A. incarnata (swamp milkweed) at all - I didn't start any from seed in the spring and the slugs or something ate the older plants right down to nubs.

Asclepias isn't the easiest genus to grow but I keep trying because I love to raise Monarch butterflies.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2012 at 7:02PM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

Ken, I wasn't figuring on spraying. Too many bees and butterflies enjoy it for me to endanger them.

terrene, I bought three small starts of Asclepias tuberosa 'Hello Yellow' back in 2005. One died, the other two took two years to get really established. I now have a big stand of them. I love them and I normally get two bloom cycles.

    Bookmark     August 20, 2012 at 10:29PM
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