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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

No, I don't see any need to continue the conversation. I am sure the OP is sorry he asked at this point. I appreciate that we both view the way the conversation went differently. Thank you for explaining your side of it. I'm more than willing to erase the slate and move on.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2012 at 6:16PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

I didn't see you there miclino.....I'm sorry that your simple question went off track a little. I hope that we didn't just muddy the waters for you more. Please take what I had to say as just my own personal perspective. I am no expert on vines. I appreciate your post. :-)

    Bookmark     July 6, 2012 at 6:31PM
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eclecticcottage(6b wny)

Neither flower looks like it has anything like Aster Yellows to me...

    Bookmark     July 6, 2012 at 12:16PM
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linlily(z5/6PA)

Grow it for a while and see how more of the flowers open. Sometimes all perennials put out a few flowers that are "different" in some aspect without the plant being diseased.

It looks like E. Sundown to me, but my E. Sundown looks similar to my E. Summer Sky. And, Summer Sky is taller and more robust in my garden than my Sundown. Their coloration is similar however.

Linda

    Bookmark     July 6, 2012 at 6:25PM
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dowlinggram

No I have divided mine many times and they have always bloomed.

What have you fertilized them with? With tons of greenery and no flowers it sounds like too much nitrogen in your fertilizer.

When I was a newbie gardener I planted Nasturtiums and got beautiful large leaves but no flowers. That's when I found out that you don't give flowers fertilizer with too much nitrogen. Nitrogen is the first number on fertilizer. It's great for lawns but not flowers

    Bookmark     July 5, 2012 at 3:43PM
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gardenlou

Just a handful of bonemeal in the hole when I planted.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2012 at 3:40PM
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pippi21(Z7 Silver Spring, Md.)

Let's see..I think it would be the Double sun-gold rudbeckia that I WS back in 2011 from seeds rec'd in the Wintersowing swap..also my tall garden phlox(NOID)that my church friend gave me back in 2009 or 2010. Snow lady shasta daisies and I cut back the zagreb coreopsis today because they had become so heavy and was leaning sideways. They will come back and bloom again in a few months. My daylilies and liatris.

    Bookmark     July 4, 2012 at 9:59PM
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raee_gw

I didn't break down and water much until just before the big storm last week. Yet most everything is looking pretty good -- except for the plants that the rabbits have been nibbling. The Hot Papaya coneflower has been outstanding. "Tree" lilies also. Gladioli, Liatris, blanketflowers, various monardas, heliopsis,several different coreopsis, several different daylilies (some rebloomers).

    Bookmark     July 6, 2012 at 1:37PM
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oliveoyl3

Besides manure I've used more used coffee grounds than anything else to improve soil in sun or shade here. Try to call ahead to St*rbucks (not all are saving them now) and any smaller cafe restaurant that you frequent. Worms love them & it holds moisture, plus smells like coffee. Go figure!

    Bookmark     July 4, 2012 at 12:38AM
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raee_gw

I am in a quite different climate, of course, but have had some very hot dry summer recently (winters, however, tend to be rather wet) and the groundcovers under my maple are still doing well: bishop weed mostly and some variegated vinca. Both can be aggressive, but I find them, especially the bishop weed pretty easy to control--I don't let it go to seed and pull sprouts from where I don't want them. The hosta is long established and is also doing surprisingly well in that area. Also a big clump of epimedium, which is probably my favorite. Golden creeping jenny starts to look ratty by now I've found, something likes to nibble on it I think.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2012 at 1:16PM
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terrene(5b MA)

Well, I think that Echinacea looks sickly! Would never buy that one. Many of the new cultivars look pretty, but I will wait until they have stood the test of time.

    Bookmark     July 5, 2012 at 8:59PM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

I LOVE that people develop real passions about certain plants. I have gone crazy over plants that only a fellow nut case would appreciate!

I'm not attracted to this particular introduction, either. I chuckled when I saw it....one more homely Echinacea with a great name for marketing. Can I be an echinacea fan and a plebian at the same time?

Thank you, E.maniac...for enriching my appreciation and knowledge of an incredible genus.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2012 at 11:39AM
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katob Z6ish, NE Pa

There are a couple hybrid lady slipper orchids that would wow me in a garden.... Mostly because they are so hard to please but also because they are so beautiful. But unless you have a ton of money and/or no guilt in looking at a dead plant, I wouldn't recommend trying them.

Maybe I'm just stuck on native wildflowers but double bloodroot and double trilliums also come to mind as choice.

Well grown delphiniums always wow me, the bluer the better.

    Bookmark     July 5, 2012 at 11:41PM
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lisanti07028(z6NJ)

It also depends on if you want to wow yourself, as an experienced gardener, or non-gardener friends. Innocent visitors to my yard are speechless at BIG things - the giant hostas and tall ferns, and especially the really tall plants - New York Ironweed (7 feet), lovage and Joe Pye (6 feet), cup plant (8 - 9 feet).

It seems to me that people who don't do full-contact gardening think of plants differently - when you say "flowering plant", they think of zinnias or impatiens, while you're thinking of Itoh peonies, so when you show them your peonies, you are opening up a whole new world to them.

I think that you need to have some plants that are easy to grow, even if you are specializing in ladyslippers, so if a visitor says "oh, I could never grow that", you can say "sure you can!", and give them a seedling, just to lead them down that slippery slope.

    Bookmark     July 6, 2012 at 11:34AM
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ditas

Hi n-m44 ~ Those tiny creamy sticks did turn out to be the crown! There are 3 blooms now with definite crowns! I was just being impatient ~ didn't expect the crowns to take so much longer to show up! I'm so tickled!!!

    Bookmark     July 13, 2011 at 12:37AM
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ditas

Can anyone tell me why this happened this season? I haven't yet seen DD in this corner DD P-Cone bed except a tiny forest growing on top of all green blossoms she produced! Sigh!!!

Here is a link that might be useful: My P~Cones

    Bookmark     July 5, 2012 at 9:35PM
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wieslaw59

As far as I know this one has failed all across Europe, so no wonder you hear terible things about it. Here in Denmark all the flowers I have seen in nurseries were distorted('tissue culture syndrome')

    Bookmark     July 5, 2012 at 9:01AM
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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

I like the odd pink orange color but it failed to live through our winter rains here.

    Bookmark     July 5, 2012 at 12:08PM
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debgrow(Z5 Chicago)

I've been growing phlox for years, and every year I get a few stems that just seem a little deformed and wilted - sometimes they look so bad that I pull them out. Must be some sort of wilt that they're susceptible to. The good news is that it doesn't kill the plant and it doesn't seem to spread, so I just deal with it. I wouldn't rush to try to spray it with something or treat it with chemicals, just let it go.

And, I agree with other posters, they don't look yellow at all to me.

    Bookmark     May 26, 2007 at 1:04PM
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derfy(5 MI)

some of my phlox got chewed half way down by deer.

I sprayed with liquid fence.

The new growth is all curled like aphids but there are none.

never seen this before. Giving them plenty of water

    Bookmark     July 4, 2012 at 11:25PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Is this it?

Here is a link that might be useful: Dwarf Red

    Bookmark     July 4, 2012 at 12:13PM
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pippi21(Z7 Silver Spring, Md.)

Yes, I had pulled that same information. Clint thinks PowWow Berry coneflower is very similar and he likes it a lot. It was supposed to have been introduced in 2011..you'd think a lot more vendors would offer it. Might have to see if PWB is available locally.

    Bookmark     July 4, 2012 at 10:10PM
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mnwsgal 4 MN(4)

How about this one?

Rudbeckia burpii

    Bookmark     December 16, 2010 at 2:50AM
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pippi21(Z7 Silver Spring, Md.)

Mine looks very similar to the bottom picture. I think I had seen these on Burpee website or catalog and had planned to order them but never did for some reason. Price probably!
How does one harvest the seeds from this plant? It is such a stunning color.

    Bookmark     July 4, 2012 at 9:41PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

wonbyherwits wrote:

My best reblooming shasta is 'Broadway Lights' (not seed grown, it is a hybrid). Shorter than most, but quite upright. The second blooms are just as large as the first. It's been blooming (with deadheading) since May 29. Today, I did a bit more deadheading and the plants look just as good with lots of blooms. 'Broadway Lights' starts out pale yellow and transforms to white,

Good information.

Cameron your description of the colour of the flower reminds me of Shasta 'Banana Creme' BUT with a far superior duration of bloom. (But) It is clearly taller than BC.

    Bookmark     July 2, 2012 at 6:34PM
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mistascott(7A VA)

If the blooms are done (including lateral buds), you can cut it down to basal foliage and sometimes you will get a limited rebloom.

    Bookmark     July 4, 2012 at 2:34PM
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natal(Louisiana 8b)

They bloom in spring and again in the fall. Mine have a few yellow leaves, but not bad. I typically cut mine back a third or more this time of year so they branch out and don't get too tall before the fall bloom.

Could yours be root bound since they're in pots?

    Bookmark     June 30, 2012 at 1:55PM
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dland2000

They were looking really bad. Heavy yellowing and dropping of leaves. I should have posted a picture. I ended up cutting them way back so only the new growth in the center was left and really soaking them with water. So far they look okay. We'll see what happens. Really disappointing. These were the best plants I had in my front yard until about a month ago!

    Bookmark     July 4, 2012 at 2:03PM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

I just picked up a plant of "Fatal Attraction" (looked too cool in the nursery to pass up), now I just have to find a place to put it. After that, there are about 25 seedlings of "Echinacea "Prairie Splendor" to locate a spot for.

    Bookmark     July 4, 2012 at 11:49AM
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diggerdee zone 6 CT

LOL, Mollydog! I thought perhaps you were getting an early start on July 4th celebrating when I saw your last post!

;)
Dee

    Bookmark     July 4, 2012 at 1:49PM
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