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Grow it for a while and see how more of the flowers open. Sometimes all perennials put out a few flowers that are "different" in some aspect without the plant being diseased.
It looks like E. Sundown to me, but my E. Sundown looks similar to my E. Summer Sky. And, Summer Sky is taller and more robust in my garden than my Sundown. Their coloration is similar however.
Linda

No I have divided mine many times and they have always bloomed.
What have you fertilized them with? With tons of greenery and no flowers it sounds like too much nitrogen in your fertilizer.
When I was a newbie gardener I planted Nasturtiums and got beautiful large leaves but no flowers. That's when I found out that you don't give flowers fertilizer with too much nitrogen. Nitrogen is the first number on fertilizer. It's great for lawns but not flowers

Let's see..I think it would be the Double sun-gold rudbeckia that I WS back in 2011 from seeds rec'd in the Wintersowing swap..also my tall garden phlox(NOID)that my church friend gave me back in 2009 or 2010. Snow lady shasta daisies and I cut back the zagreb coreopsis today because they had become so heavy and was leaning sideways. They will come back and bloom again in a few months. My daylilies and liatris.

I didn't break down and water much until just before the big storm last week. Yet most everything is looking pretty good -- except for the plants that the rabbits have been nibbling. The Hot Papaya coneflower has been outstanding. "Tree" lilies also. Gladioli, Liatris, blanketflowers, various monardas, heliopsis,several different coreopsis, several different daylilies (some rebloomers).

Besides manure I've used more used coffee grounds than anything else to improve soil in sun or shade here. Try to call ahead to St*rbucks (not all are saving them now) and any smaller cafe restaurant that you frequent. Worms love them & it holds moisture, plus smells like coffee. Go figure!

I am in a quite different climate, of course, but have had some very hot dry summer recently (winters, however, tend to be rather wet) and the groundcovers under my maple are still doing well: bishop weed mostly and some variegated vinca. Both can be aggressive, but I find them, especially the bishop weed pretty easy to control--I don't let it go to seed and pull sprouts from where I don't want them. The hosta is long established and is also doing surprisingly well in that area. Also a big clump of epimedium, which is probably my favorite. Golden creeping jenny starts to look ratty by now I've found, something likes to nibble on it I think.


I LOVE that people develop real passions about certain plants. I have gone crazy over plants that only a fellow nut case would appreciate!
I'm not attracted to this particular introduction, either. I chuckled when I saw it....one more homely Echinacea with a great name for marketing. Can I be an echinacea fan and a plebian at the same time?
Thank you, E.maniac...for enriching my appreciation and knowledge of an incredible genus.

There are a couple hybrid lady slipper orchids that would wow me in a garden.... Mostly because they are so hard to please but also because they are so beautiful. But unless you have a ton of money and/or no guilt in looking at a dead plant, I wouldn't recommend trying them.
Maybe I'm just stuck on native wildflowers but double bloodroot and double trilliums also come to mind as choice.
Well grown delphiniums always wow me, the bluer the better.

It also depends on if you want to wow yourself, as an experienced gardener, or non-gardener friends. Innocent visitors to my yard are speechless at BIG things - the giant hostas and tall ferns, and especially the really tall plants - New York Ironweed (7 feet), lovage and Joe Pye (6 feet), cup plant (8 - 9 feet).
It seems to me that people who don't do full-contact gardening think of plants differently - when you say "flowering plant", they think of zinnias or impatiens, while you're thinking of Itoh peonies, so when you show them your peonies, you are opening up a whole new world to them.
I think that you need to have some plants that are easy to grow, even if you are specializing in ladyslippers, so if a visitor says "oh, I could never grow that", you can say "sure you can!", and give them a seedling, just to lead them down that slippery slope.


Can anyone tell me why this happened this season? I haven't yet seen DD in this corner DD P-Cone bed except a tiny forest growing on top of all green blossoms she produced! Sigh!!!
Here is a link that might be useful: My P~Cones


I've been growing phlox for years, and every year I get a few stems that just seem a little deformed and wilted - sometimes they look so bad that I pull them out. Must be some sort of wilt that they're susceptible to. The good news is that it doesn't kill the plant and it doesn't seem to spread, so I just deal with it. I wouldn't rush to try to spray it with something or treat it with chemicals, just let it go.
And, I agree with other posters, they don't look yellow at all to me.


Yes, I had pulled that same information. Clint thinks PowWow Berry coneflower is very similar and he likes it a lot. It was supposed to have been introduced in 2011..you'd think a lot more vendors would offer it. Might have to see if PWB is available locally.

Mine looks very similar to the bottom picture. I think I had seen these on Burpee website or catalog and had planned to order them but never did for some reason. Price probably!
How does one harvest the seeds from this plant? It is such a stunning color.

wonbyherwits wrote:
My best reblooming shasta is 'Broadway Lights' (not seed grown, it is a hybrid). Shorter than most, but quite upright. The second blooms are just as large as the first. It's been blooming (with deadheading) since May 29. Today, I did a bit more deadheading and the plants look just as good with lots of blooms. 'Broadway Lights' starts out pale yellow and transforms to white,
Good information.
Cameron your description of the colour of the flower reminds me of Shasta 'Banana Creme' BUT with a far superior duration of bloom. (But) It is clearly taller than BC.

They bloom in spring and again in the fall. Mine have a few yellow leaves, but not bad. I typically cut mine back a third or more this time of year so they branch out and don't get too tall before the fall bloom.
Could yours be root bound since they're in pots?

They were looking really bad. Heavy yellowing and dropping of leaves. I should have posted a picture. I ended up cutting them way back so only the new growth in the center was left and really soaking them with water. So far they look okay. We'll see what happens. Really disappointing. These were the best plants I had in my front yard until about a month ago!

I just picked up a plant of "Fatal Attraction" (looked too cool in the nursery to pass up), now I just have to find a place to put it. After that, there are about 25 seedlings of "Echinacea "Prairie Splendor" to locate a spot for.



No, I don't see any need to continue the conversation. I am sure the OP is sorry he asked at this point. I appreciate that we both view the way the conversation went differently. Thank you for explaining your side of it. I'm more than willing to erase the slate and move on.
I didn't see you there miclino.....I'm sorry that your simple question went off track a little. I hope that we didn't just muddy the waters for you more. Please take what I had to say as just my own personal perspective. I am no expert on vines. I appreciate your post. :-)