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twrosz

I have many of these that I've grown from seed, a simple task that's easy on the pocketbook! I like growing them out in numbers and selecting the best of the lot.

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texasranger2

Mine has looked like this since mid July here in central Oklahoma. Not much Pow Wow for the buck in our hot summers. Like I said, its thirsty and doesn't seem to like the heat down here. It punks out early, did the same thing last year but yes, it survives winter. I'm sticking with the unimproved types, no molly coddling here even though I have taken pity on it and watered it every week since I have a salvia close by I'm trying to get established. Otherwise, even the foliage would be toast.

Since we are asking how'd they do.....I give it a low rating. To be fair, I have just about come to the conclusion that your summer further north is like our spring. These don't do summer here, down here I consider it a spring bloomer.

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linnea56(z5 IL)

It wouldn’t be invasive around here, lol. It’s taken 6 years in the ground to get the 3 feet spread I have now. I have never seen an ivy bloom, not even the hoary old ones I take into the house for the winter, so no seeding here either.

Though considering the slowness of growth, I might be better off finding some of the dark green variety commonly sold as ground cover here. By the time I was more or less ready to plant this area, however, I couldn’t find any in the stores.

    Bookmark     last Friday at 9:28AM
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linnea56(z5 IL)

I justr looked up the name....Hedera helix Canariensis is Algerian ivy, with a much bigger leaf. I have that in some other pots. It is much pickier and harder to grow and root (here). I can't get it to branch readily by pinching the way I can the others. I like it, I wish it was easier. The white edged one has leaves no larger than one inch, most smaller.

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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

looks a lot better than moms ...

just be patient ... keep in mind.. its going into fall ... the sun is in decline.. and things start growing slower.. then they did in spring/summer .... even in CA ...

ken

    Bookmark     last Friday at 9:21AM
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Kez (Z7 OK)

I know asteromoea mongolica was reclassified as kalimeris a while back, but I'm still confused on whether or not it is also the same plant as tanacetum parthenium? I gave a like to a gorgeous photo of tanacetum parthenium posted by Pitimpinai and put it in my wish list ideabook to remind me to get some, thinking it is the same plant that I planted a year ago labeled as 'asteromoea mongolica' which didn't survive. Am I confusing two entirely different plants?

    Bookmark     August 16, 2015 at 2:18PM
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roxanna(z5b MA)

rouge21 -- I've had this plant for a decade or so and I love it. I'm in MA so it blooms in Aug-Sept for me also. Nice delicate look, airy and dainty. Mine is somewhat of a spreader, tho not aggressive IMO and easy enough to yank out when it gets the urge to go where I don't want it. On the other hand, yours looks more like a single "bush" than mine, which are basically many single stems growing next to each other. Maybe I don't have what you have after all, but the bloom is the same and the leaves. Now I am very confused. Which is not unusual, LOL.

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rouge21_gw(5)

You are preaching to the converted peren.all!

The issue with this plant is the amount of room it requires to do its thing.

    Bookmark     last Thursday at 7:22PM
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roxanna(z5b MA)

Are mine the only ones that do not clump and form a mass such as rouge21 shows in her photo? I definitely have Triloba but individual plants are quite delicate albeit tall as I am usually (5 feet). As they are scattered here and there throughout the gardens, they are not obstructive of the views of the rest of the plants at all...

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sunnyborders(5b)

Sympathies, Raestr.

I'm not a lover of spiderwort, in part, for the reason Nevermore says. Still I too have, in the past, planted several spiderwort cultivars which did not seed around at all. It's a native plant, but I'm assuming some of the cultivars have been selected as sterile or non seed-producing.

As said, we had a problem with a neighbour and his buckthorn tree (prolific seed production and distribution (latter by birds)). Of course, he was unaware of any problem at all. Still he was quite happy to allow us to pay to have his buckthorn tree removed.

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Deb 215(5a WI)

I have the species...which is destined for elimination and a cultivar, which has behaved very nicely.

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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

Liriope muscari 'Variegata'.....variegated liriope.

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Lauren W. (z5b - CNY)

so obsessed with that sedum, green! Never seen one like that before, all they stock around here is autumn joys!

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cyn427(zone 7, Northern VA)

Galium odoratum (Sweet Woodruff) is a favorite of mine. Blooms in spring and early summer, but very pretty even when not in bloom. Likes shade. Evergreen here, but may be semi-evergreen for you.

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Victor

Thank you all for the comments. I actually do not know how deep the soil is although I'd be surprised if its too deep. I've only transplanted small annuals before so I'm not really sure. I could always add more soil. I added black eyed Susan at a different location and something is eating them to death! Maybe it isn't deer but even the deer spray doesn't seem to work too well. Bottom line is I am frustrated and not overly pleased with the perennial choices I have around me. Maybe this fall when the nurseries have a big sale I can see what they have then. Like I said this year the vinca did really well but that's a lot of flats every year for all that I have to plant.

    Bookmark     August 17, 2015 at 3:30PM
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edlincoln(6A)

If this is a summer house then you want tough plants, because presumably you may not be there to water them. I like echinacea for easy summer blooms. Baptista Australis likes rocky soil, although it is a spring bloomer. Also liked the liatris suggestions,

    Bookmark     August 19, 2015 at 8:06PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Any updates?

Just curious if anyone in this thread or otherwise can now comment on the performance of "Early Bird Gold"?

(From the descriptions it seems to be taller than "Little Goldstar")

    Bookmark     August 6, 2015 at 7:35AM
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twrosz

Received this spring from Canning Perennials, the plant was healthy, though very slow to kick into gear and opened its first bloom about three weeks ago. It is only about 12 inches high, though is now throwing new and taller stems. Shall see what next year brings in regards to the early flowering aspect. I like it very much whatever the case.

    Bookmark     August 19, 2015 at 3:26PM
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wantonamara Z8 CenTex

OHHH, you got it because you have been good customer. Interesting.

    Bookmark     August 16, 2015 at 6:56PM
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sammy zone 7 Tulsa

I enjoyed looking at your garden. I have not been able to achieve what I want having reduced my water schedule, but I am working on it. Phlox and dalias have suffered the most, but other plants seem to be ok.

You have done a very good job with your yard.

Sammy

    Bookmark     August 18, 2015 at 6:54PM Thanked by texasranger2
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Thyme2dig NH Zone 5

Hibiscus just started. Anemone robustissima is getting going, but the other anemones seem to always be much later. I whacked back a bunch of ironweed so that is still yet to bloom, as well as the 'Iron Butterflies' shorter ironweed. Can't wait for the sweet autumn clematis and bugbane. I know many people say bugbane smells awful. I have a couple varieties and one of the purple ones, probably atropupurea smells exactly like sweet autumn clematis. The flowers are soooooo long and bendy and huge. I love it! Caryopteris don't even look close to bloom. Mums, tricytris, asters still waiting. Regular joe pye has been blooming a while. Purple Joe not ready yet. And hoping with fingers crossed for a second bloom of delphinium this fall. Time will tell. And as Woodyoak knows, my favorite tree/shrub heptacodium is getting ready. Also have a tree that I planted a handful of years ago that I hope will finally bloom this fall. Each year it has a few buds but doesn't seem to be able to support them. It's a Tetradium, otherwise known as Bee Bee tree due to its late bloom like the heptacodium. Gotta keep those insects happy later in the season! The sweet autumn clematis is my absolute favorite though as it just swarms with honeybees. It is SO loud!

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ruth_mi(5b)

Hibiscus moscheutos 'Pink Elephant' (even though this isn't my very last bloomer, it's my "grand finale" plant. I love it, and it blooms not long after the Limelights behind it peak. Last year it was blooming by now, but it's a little behind this year.)

Hibiscus moscheutos 'Brandy Punch' (two are blooming; a few haven't started)

Aconitum carmichaelii

Anemone 'Honorine Jobert' - didn't think you could kill this plant if you tried, and I usually have to dig a lot to keep it under control, but it's really sparse this year.

Eupatorium Chocolate

All of my chelone drifts are blooming already, except where the deer nibbled. I still don't want to believe it's mid-August!!!

    Bookmark     August 18, 2015 at 6:31PM
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mnwsgal 4 MN(4)

I organize every fall. In the winter the garage which gets little active use other than driving the car in and stowing snow shovels and birdseed and stays very orderly until spring. From spring through fall it becomes a jumble of pots, bags of mix, bags of weeds, pails, fencing, folding lawn chairs, etc. Tools get put away each day though. Occasionally I sweep it out and straighten up a bit but the well used look remains until that fall cleanup.

    Bookmark     August 18, 2015 at 1:10PM
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a2zmom(6a - nj)

diggerdee, I hear you!

I'd like to at least get rid of the all the stuff my kids have left behind. (I'd really love to get rid of the car my oldest left behind, but that's not happening so fast.)

    Bookmark     August 18, 2015 at 5:24PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

UPDATE:

I planted two "Jeana" in 2014 and as far as I can tell neither survived :(....that is unusual as Phlox P. are pretty hardy souls. twrosz, have you got yours still in the garden this season?

    Bookmark     August 18, 2015 at 9:16AM
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twrosz

Yes, the two plants and cutting I had taken had wintered and are only now just beginning to bloom. They hadn't appreciated being transplanted and nor had they enjoyed the very dry spring and summer that has rendered the region an agricultural disaster ... so, you know what I've been doing this summer .... watering, watering, watering!

    Bookmark     August 18, 2015 at 10:50AM
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