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Very strange that the pictures doesn't always show up. The mysteries of the internet.
It's definitely not monarda - I have a huge stand of that right behind this plant.
I'll keep waiting. I'll report back with new pics in a few days. If it turns out to be lobelia I'll be very delighted.


Yup. I move them. Whenever I want. I just moved some daylilies, hosta, peonies and ferns last night and split off some spiderwort and put it in a new home too. And plopped a rooted cutting of a butterfly bush I started from one of the ones I moved earlier this year into the spot where the peonies were. I will take freebies like daisies and coneflowers whenever someone wants to get rid of them, summer heat or not. I moved a LARGE (like 4' high by 3' round) hydrangea last July because someone wanted it gone asap-and a butterfly bush that was about 6' from the same person. Just watered a lot when it got into its new home and dealt with it looking like a crispy critter for a few weeks, it's back this year happy as ever. Butterfly bush too, it's even got some new blooms coming in.

buyorsell is right!
I browse plant catalogs online, or just Google random gardening/plant terms, then browse the photos.
"hosta fence"..."miscanthus window"..."bay window perennials"...and on. The amount of inspiration I see gets my creativity going again.
Michelle

I can identify with what everyone has said so far. I often rely on the practicalities of a design question to point me in the right direction. How does this area need to function? Which plants would like these conditions, sun/shade, wet/dry, low growing/tall? Then often it is a case of a certain plant that I am in love with and finding the best place to put it. And in the end, even after thinking it through well, and giving attention to care, the end result doesn't please you. Then you try again and see where it is not working and move things around or bring home another great plant to try. I've done that lots of times and have done a lot of moving. Eventually, I have finally succeeded in a pleasing result in some areas, but others I'm still working on.
This year, I am finally seeing some maturity with some of our shrubs and perennials and I have thought what a difference that makes. So patience pays off more than I realized. But, when you plant with eventual size in mind, the spaces are very unappealing. So I've planted between and now, for instance, I am going to have to move daffodils out from under shrubs.
I like the idea of planting annuals for a season until you find inspiration. I love an annual garden. You may find it works so well, you will keep doing it every year. I keep one bed in full sun that has a mix of perennials and annuals, but it started out with just annuals and that was fun.
A garden is so personal. It is a process of learning about yourself as a gardener and your property. The trick I think, is to accept both as they are and with patience just enjoy the process. There isn't a season that I don't find something to really be happy about, but never a season that I'm happy about everything. But if I were, then what would I have to look forward to changing next year? :-)

None of the fernleaf Dicentras go summer dormant here in the Pacific Northwest only the old fashioned spectabilis dies back here.
We've had over three inches of rain just in June and they love it. I would imagine it was on it's way out when you bought it. It may have gotten too stressed in the nursery pot.
Mine is still blooming.

I believe that terra nova article (and others) are for plants that are not to far out of the plug stage. So you should be fine to let yours bloom.
The only exception to that is if the plants you purchased have only a single growth point coming out of the soil. Regardless of how bushy, healthy, and floriferous that single stem is... I would advise, besides to always check the plant before you buy one of the new echs, is to cut all the blooms in order to try and force the plant to add more basal growth points before the end of the season. The single stem plants will never make it through winter. Certain varieties seem more apt to have this issue.


Oh my! That is lovely.
I think you're right about both of these. I really do seem to prefer the airy looking ones. I have the purple Visions and even though I do like it, the flowers are very densely packed together - a completely different look and feel.
K

While I am a fan of the Perscaria polymorpha, for a shady spot I would heartily recommend Kirengoshoma palmata. This is a terrific and underused plant, excellent yellow flowers in the late summer and fall, and though it looks more like a shrub once established, it dies to the ground every year, so you can cut it back without any problems.

Kirengeshoma is indeed another nice plant - but I find it does best in moister soil, and it spreads a lot for me.


BTW another way to control the size of a Persicaria clump as it gets older in addition to digging out the excess is to simply edit/thin out a number of the stems before they reach full size.

I rarely sit in the garden, which is a shame. I find there is always just too much work waiting to be done and once I am out there, I always see something to do. Which I enjoy doing. When the weather gets hot though I do less work, but then it is too hot to sit out there during the day and mosquitoes at night. I am going to make the effort to sit out there more often this year though and see how that goes.

This is such a funny thread - and it really strikes a chord. My boyfriend and I hardly ever sit out in the garden; we're always too busy working in it. (Still, at least our upstairs neighbours get to enjoy it!)
I like the suggestion of having easily portable chairs that can be carried around the garden and plonked down depending on what looks good/what time of day it is, to take advantage of, say, the beauty of backlit leaves and flowers. I'm going to try to keep handy a couple of those folding camping chairs with drinks holders, so my partner and I can potter out at the end of the day to find a good view and enjoy a tasty bottle of beer (or two).



since they are japanese.. one might holler CARP!!!!
ken ...
who sits outside every night for 3 to 4 hours.. reading.. perhaps it smells better out here in the country.. as compared the the asphalt jungle... excepts its sometimes hard to concentrate on the book with the din of those freakin country birds ... so i light an M80.. and than am so deafened.. the birds dont bother me ...

I just read an article that said cedar oil repels/kills them. They suggested a homemade solution - take two Eastern Red Cedar planks and soak in hot water for 24 hours. Use the soaking water as a spray.

you get your straw.. near halloween.. when it is stocked for fall garden displays .. you know.. the bale.. the pumkins.. the cornucopia ... and when the cold weather hits.. use the display .. to cover the garden ... in fact.. i have been known to garbage pick some bales. in early nov ... free for the taking at the curb ...
when they harvest the crop.. the big john deere cuts off the top .. with the seed.. and makes money ...
the 'second cutting' ... is the straw ... which in theory.. has no seed ... it is nearly literally .. a hollow stalk .. aka straw ... adn man.. these things will cut you.. long sleeves and jeans and leather gloves .... when tossing it around
the third product.. is an animal food.. forage ??? ... which these days are usually those huge rolls ... which includes the whole plant.. like the cow or horse.. might eat out in the pasture ... usually with a high percent of alfalfa.. though for the small time operator.. still sold in convenient bales ...
the cheapest of them all is straw.. aka bedding stuff.. it has little inherent value.. as to its food value..
wow.. i know way to much about this.. for a city boy.. lol ..
BTW.. this is one of those trick questions.. where you can really delineate the knowledge base of you nurseryman or garden friends.. if the guy selling it .... doesnt have a clue what you are talking about.. that should tell you something ... like.. questioning EVERYTHING else.. he spreads around as manure.. lol ..
i always ... thought denn was IN MI... so i always thought he was a guy .. but then he said something girlie.. in some post.. and then i got really confused.. lol .. try to man up dude.. lol .. and no.. i dont remember the specifics ... lol
ken

I am asking the same question. I live in MA and my evening primrose has been beautiful for the past several weeks. However they are beginning to look a little spent. Should I try to trim them up now for continual bloom throughout the summer (it is barely June). they are supposed to bloom throughout the summer but mine are already looking a little rangey (sp). BTW it won't be oool again until October!

I am asking the same question. I live in MA and my evening primrose has been beautiful for the past several weeks. However they are beginning to look a little spent. Should I try to trim them up now for continual bloom throughout the summer (it is barely June). they are supposed to bloom throughout the summer but mine are already looking a little rangey (sp). BTW it won't be oool again until October!

Not sure this is the right place for my question but since columbine seem to be the topic here I thought I might give it a try. I, unlike Jayco, do not want my columbine to re-seed. It has taken over the place. It is blooming right now and today I pulled up a couple wheel barrels full of columbine. My question is, looking at all that I thought it would make for a great mulch in some other areas of the place but I don't know if since it is already blooming if it will just go to seed any way and end up spreading even more. Like a dandelion bloom if you pick the flower and drop it, it will make seed even after being picked. Chances are the columbine have been pollinated. I appreciate any help.
Mashell

I am not an expert, but it was my understanding that until the plant produces seed, it wouldn't be able to reseed. In my general experience, I am cautious when using plant material for mulching, that it doesn't have an opportunity to root again in a new location. So I will sometimes leave it in the sun to die before I apply it as mulch. Otherwise, if there are seed pods already formed on the spent flower stems, I would remove those before mulching too. But sounds like good organic matter to improve your soil and it's free too.





1.) Cactus
2.) Yucca 'Color Guard'
3,) Delosperma cooperi
4.) Delosperma dyeri
5.) Delosperma 'Lavender Ice'
6.) Hesperaloe parviflora 'Brakelights'
7.) Hesperaloe parviflora 'Yellow'
8.) Kniphofia
I'd also like to add helianthus, Lemon Queen and a rudbeckia nitida, Autumn Sun.