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tepelus(6a SW MI)

Well, mine has flopped terribly. I hate to have to cut it back because it is in full bloom, but it is laying over the top of other plants and I don't want it to kill them. If I give it a good pruning will it grow back and flower again yet this year? I think the soil is too rich in this bed. I have a lot of other plants that have grown fierce in this bed and are flopping all over. I've cut them all back, my ratibida is next on the hair cut list.

Karen

    Bookmark     June 24, 2012 at 11:32AM
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ramazz(8a VA)

I also have ratibida in zone 7 (Virginia). Each 'hat' contains more seeds than you can imagine. When mine get larger, they flop. It may depend on the soil - mine seems to be pretty plant-friendly. Regardless, I love the plant, and just control how many there are and how big they get. If they flop in an area where I don't like it, I cut them back. They are great natives. Keep in mind that some of the people who responded are in zones 3 or 4.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2012 at 6:57PM
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wieslaw59

Rhododendron Tamarindos:

Tanacetum roseum Alfred:

Iris Tut's Gold:

Iris Sweet Musette:

Eryngium Forncett Ultra begins to get colour:

    Bookmark     June 24, 2012 at 5:36PM
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laceyvail(6A, WV)

No late arriving perennials, but the deciduous hollies just now finished blooming!

    Bookmark     June 24, 2012 at 6:07AM
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mytime(3/4 Alaska)

Balloon flower is always a late riser for me, but this year was ridiculous. It just now started showing anything.

    Bookmark     June 24, 2012 at 11:46AM
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david883(5/6)

WHOOPS! I meant next year...

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 7:08PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

i am sorry.. i dont see the poppy.. and i think its probably dead ...

and the pot looks very dry ... inserting finger.. is it really as dry as it looks???

you could play amateur archeologist.. and do some very delicate excavating with a brush .. do you see anything viable just under the soil.. or is it shriveled as far as you can find??? even a dormant plant.. will have stout water filled roots .. and NOT be all shriveled like grandma in the hot tub for an hour.. lol .. there is a mental pic that will haunt me tonight ...

ken

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 9:13PM
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Karolina11(6b Central PA)

They were pretty small when they came in and their root balls look decent (I seperated some of the roots out before I planted.)

I will ease on the watering and watch and observe. Thank you for the advice!

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 7:37PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

I will ease on the watering and watch and observe.

===>>> does that include inserting your finger.. or just eyeballing it???

ken

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 9:09PM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

""Our rare and unusual perennial business will continue under the Burpee brand, as it has for 136 years," Mr. Ball said."

(snicker)size>

    Bookmark     June 22, 2012 at 5:55PM
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kimka(Zone 6B)

I am so with you Eric

(snort, snort, snicker, snicker)

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 8:52PM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

Zone 5? You're going to have problems with getting that plant through the winter in a pot unless you can remove the pot and insulate it somehow to prevent the freeze/thaw cycle. Heck, mint won't survive a winter in a pot for me.

Kevin

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 6:40PM
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dyhgarden(7b)

Put gravel or rocks on top of the soil in your pots. I do that to keep birds from nesting. You can even make it decorative. I've used round river rocks and I've even spray painted gravel to make it look colorful for a quick fix.

Cameron

Here is a link that might be useful: purple gravel in lavender container

    Bookmark     June 20, 2012 at 10:14PM
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anna_beth(zone 5-6)

As per the below blog post I came across (not my blog) you might want to scratch the peonies as well. Although the author suspects deer ate them.

Here is a link that might be useful: peony buds eaten by deer

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 5:45PM
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denninmi(8a)

Both of those salvia plants bloomed previously, or were in bloom when you bought them? Nothing mysterious here, they are settling in to their new environs and just need a little time. Cutting off those old flower stalks may help promote new blooms, as would keeping them watered and fertilized.

Mostly though, just time and patience.

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 4:33PM
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bgaviator(7)

Yes, they had a couple of blooms when I bought them, but they quickly went away....I haven't seen any since. Yeah, mostly wasn't sure if I should cut those stalks off or not....if new growth would appear on those existing stalks, or if fresh ones need to sprout in order to have blooms.

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 5:10PM
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northerner_on(Z5A ONCanada)

Thanks for letting me know of your experience with these beauties ,Eclecticcottage. It seems that we must display utmost patience with them, but it is so worth it. Your experience will be very useful to me in the future, I'm sure. I am a newbie with these, these two being my first bushes which I winter sowed from seeds received in an exchange. I was rather thrilled that I had such success with my first attempt, and I was warned about not cutting them back until spring, but not about the fact that they take their sweet time showing up after their winter sleep !! Of course this one plant will be coddled, and I will know what to expect if we have such strange weather in a future spring.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2012 at 10:16PM
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eclecticcottage(6b wny)

I'd also make sure to dead head like it's a religion once it starts flowering. I did it with the 14 we put in last year and they were non-stop until frost. My Lo and Behold is covered in blooms that are just turning from green now already. I kind of do the opposite of coddling with them, except for making sure they get enough water when freshly planted, lol (well, and deadheading). I only trimmed one, and I tossed the two branches I cut into water to see if they'd root. Looks like they are-and I just made sure to keep the water full and fresh.

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 4:23PM
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dyhgarden(7b)

I use their Plant-Tone for everything.

Cameron

    Bookmark     June 22, 2012 at 10:32PM
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Maxine(5MA)

lol...yikes, i don�t have Plant tone...where did I go wrong :)

it's all pretty much what i thought (re: my 4 fertilizers)...just wanted to hear it from the seasoned gardeners
Thanks!
Dale
ps..bear (sp?) with meâ¦.miracle grow varieties...also hype?

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 3:38PM
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NHBabs(4b-5aNH)

Quite lovely! Unfortunately, D. 'Piccolo' isn't available except in Europe, from what I can find on the web.

I think I'll have to try some of the other belladonna delphiniums, however. I started some midheight delphiniums from seed a number of years ago, but they succumbed to mildew. By now I don't remember the variety.

Many of the references I found to D. elata considered it an annual. What have others found as far as elata's longevity?

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 11:42AM
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wieslaw59

Delphinium elatum has NEVER bloomed in its first year for me(needs vernalization to bloom), and often rather sparsely in its second year if on hungry soil. It begins to bloom abundantly in it's third year. Besides, many references just repeat old information without checking if it is true. 10 years is not short-lived for me.

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 2:46PM
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jennypat Zone 3b NW MN(Zone 3b NW MN)

Yeah Ken it's a question which is worse the problem or the solution.

This year the thugs seem to be winning, not only am I fighting CC in the front, that bed also is full of volunteer plum trees. I am thinking that later this summer I going to HAVE to dig out my perennials, redig and roundup this whole bed.....a LOT of work but....

Then in the back of the house there are the Harebells...a lovely little wildflower until it over takes your flower beds!

In the shrub hedge that separates the yard from the gravel road and in the woodland behind the house and around one side of the yard I am fighting European Buckthorn. We have 5 acres here, 1 acre is used up in a levee and pond, about 1 1/2 acres is house, lawn and gardens, the rest is woodland.....in other words lots of weeds, not only buckthorn, but greather burdock, thistle and quack grass.

Some days It feels like an impossible task! If I could dedicate my life to it, I would love it, but alas I have to work.

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 11:44AM
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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

Round Up (Glyphosate) is far less toxic than many chemicals put on yards.

Round Up does not poison the soil nor have any residual effect.

The 2,4-D used in Weed n'Feed does....yet people poison their lawns with it and let kids and pets play on it.

    Bookmark     June 23, 2012 at 12:58PM
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erictammy

Oops. I forgot to add the photo.

    Bookmark     June 22, 2012 at 6:34PM
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erictammy

Is it really hard to ID coneflowers since a lot of them look so similar?

    Bookmark     June 22, 2012 at 11:25PM
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echinaceamaniac(7)

Look up that recent thread where everyone posted their favorite gold plants. It had tons of ideas in there.

    Bookmark     June 21, 2012 at 2:59PM
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river_crossroads z8b Central Louisiana

Good idea, echinaceamaniac. Alina, I liked both those threads and the sharp contrasts. Here you go, nydepot:

Now, what are your favorite golden foliage plants?
Your favorite black/dark red/maroon plant?

    Bookmark     June 21, 2012 at 11:10PM
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