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lemecdutex(z15 CA Petaluma)

I've lived in Houston, TX; Nashville, TN; Orlando, FL; Los Angeles, Fresno and now Sonoma county, California, and I'd definitely prefer any California climate over anything in the SE. I used to be very interested in tropicals, but got over that after a bad freeze in Orlando wiped out practically my entire garden. It's weird, temps in Orlando that would wipe out a lot of plants (like Citrus) can happen in California and they are untouched. I think it has to do with the gradual cooldown typical in California compared to the SE, where weather fluctuates too much.

The weather here is the best I've ever had, overall, for growing plants, though I'd prefer it rained a bit more and stayed cooler (our nights are cool, but some days get warmer than I like). I think around Eureka and Ferndale might be closer to what I'd like.

I never want to live in a hot humid climate again, summers are just too miserable, and none of the perennials I like survive there.

--Ron

    Bookmark     July 23, 2008 at 8:12PM
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GGGF(6-7)

I am curious as to whether or not you moved somewhere. I too commuted once to NYCX, where I worked 5 years. I went back to Ky, about 120 miles north of the Asheville area that manyh of these people recommend. I like Ky. a little beter than NC because, when I lived in NC, it sometimes got unbelievably humid. In Ky., there is a temperate zone -- it is compared to San Francisco sometimes. Land costs tens times more around Asheville, and it is more biodiverse n the woods here. Just not as muh culture.
If I meet the right friend(s), I would share land with them. I am trying to farm more than I can handle.

    Bookmark     May 16, 2012 at 4:40PM
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echinaceamaniac(7)

Just replace these with some yellow Gaillardia. They bloom longer and look fuller.

    Bookmark     May 16, 2012 at 12:58PM
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dyhgarden(7b)

Rouge - I've not had to put "hoops" around the 'Star Cluster' for support, but I do use hoops for the taller 'Redshift'

Cameron

    Bookmark     May 16, 2012 at 2:10PM
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MollyDog(6 PA)

I was thinking silver dragon as wel.

    Bookmark     May 16, 2012 at 9:22AM
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steve1young(7A)

I agree, Liriope spicata 'Silver Dragon' (formerly, Ophiopogen spicatus).

It has a tendency to spread more than it's variegated cousins. In my garden (mod moisture, rich well-drained soil, full-sun/part-shade) I found it sent out runners that popped up 1 to 1.5 feet from the main plant.

    Bookmark     May 16, 2012 at 1:11PM
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tsugajunkie z5 SE WI

They are tough as nails. Even grow in the cracks in my driveway.

tj

    Bookmark     May 15, 2012 at 6:45PM
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joannemb

Thank you! Wonder why so many sites make them seem so tempermental

    Bookmark     May 16, 2012 at 8:27AM
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Marie Tulin(6a Boston MA suburb)

the link, which I lifted from an earlier epi. post, is
http://home.earthlink.net/~darrellpro/
I think that email address listed must get to the new owner, as well. She worked with Darrell for years, and clearly has some sort of on going arrangement.
idabean

    Bookmark     May 15, 2012 at 7:52PM
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gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)

I will include another great epimedium source - Naylor Creek Nursery here in WA state. A superior shade plant mail order source (very highly rated by the "Other Place") with an excellent selection of some pretty uncommon epis as well as a full selection of the standbys. And a whole bunch of other neat shade stuff!!

Here is a link that might be useful: Naylor Creek Nursery

    Bookmark     May 15, 2012 at 8:11PM
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jan_on zone 5b

Thanks gardengal, that's exactly what I need to know. I would like to keep this plant in a rather limited space, so serious pruning makes sense.
Jan

    Bookmark     May 15, 2012 at 7:31PM
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gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)

Ruby Glow should stay put without worry. It is not the most robust euphorb I've grown (IME, the darker the foliage, the less hardy the plant) and doesn't seem to produce any stoloniferous growth. Robbiea, on the otherhand, spreads aggressively via stolons, especially in better soil and plenty of irrigation and is often sold as an evergreen groundcover for difficult situations. There is some thought that robbiea is a distinct species of its own, since its growth habit is markedly different from other amygdaloides selections.

    Bookmark     May 15, 2012 at 8:03PM
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paulsiu(5a)

Somewhere out there are plants plotting revenge against Ken. (I once read a book call Captain Jack Zodiac where someone is being stalked by a lawn that he attempted to kill using a unregistered weed killer causing the lawn to mutate).

Paul

    Bookmark     May 15, 2012 at 2:53PM
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gardenfanatic(MO zone5b)

Paul - lol! You must've been desperate for something to read!

Ken - PHHHHHTTT!!

Deanna

    Bookmark     May 15, 2012 at 7:57PM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

"Blue Bedder" is a variety of Salvia farinacea, perennial in warm climates but an annual in colder zones. Check to see how well it does in your zone and whether you can start seed now or wait for cooler fall weather.

    Bookmark     May 15, 2012 at 3:52PM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

Also, "Blue Bedder" is a pretty good shade of blue, not purple.

    Bookmark     May 15, 2012 at 4:35PM
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nicoleternity(6a)

Haven't seen it until now - now I want five for a mid border row :)!

    Bookmark     May 15, 2012 at 4:08PM
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Campanula UK Z8

weeeeellll! It is a funny blue. Hard to describe - it has slatey overtones and looks slightly grubby. I dunno - if you are addicted to novelty, it is rather extraordinary...but it does not look like a particularly vigorous plant (but I am finding that quite a few of the recently hybridised verbascums are a bit puny). At the moment, I am content to wait a bit and see how well they perform over time (and get a bit cheaper too as it absolutely needs to be grown in generous drifts - it is not a penetrating colour). There are better blue spikes out there.

    Bookmark     May 15, 2012 at 4:12PM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

I see that fella' growing wild here too... I think it is called Balsamorhiza sagittata, or perhaps another species. Common name arrow-leafed Balsamroot. Hope that helps some ;-)
CMK

    Bookmark     May 14, 2012 at 12:35PM
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katefisher(Z7_NorthernCA)

Thank you so much. Yes very helpful indeed. Yay!

Kate

    Bookmark     May 15, 2012 at 11:55AM
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sweet_betsy No AL Z7

If I could only have one plant, it would be my salvia greggii "navajo". It blooms all summer with successive shearing, is a butterfly and hummingbird magnet, is fragrant, drought tolerant and mostly evergreen in my zone. I received this plant from a trader on the plant exchange several years ago. Since then I have rooted it successfully several times to increase its presence in my garden and to share with other gardeners.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2012 at 7:00AM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

I'm thrilled with whatever is growing well this year. That seems to change from one year to the next. When you say 'Favorite' that seems a little different to me than 'Best'. Only because sometimes my favorites don't grow as well as I would like and my best plants are those that do grow the best with the least amount of attention and fuss. I can't imagine narrowing it down to a single plant. I love so many, but these plants are the most dependable performers for me that I enjoy very much.

Right now, it would be Dicentra the pink, but especially the white. And I love it paired with Lunaria which blooms at the same time. Those come back every year and get bigger and better and look lovely together and NO fuss at all. Then they disappear into the background while others start blooming.

I love Japanese Painted ferns with Epimediums. Easy, dependable, lovely together and I don't seem to feel I ever can have too many. And after the Epimedium bloom, the pair looks great all the rest of the season.

Later in the summer, Perovskia, Pennisetum 'Hamelin', and Echinacea are three of my favorites that really perform again without attention and they also look good all season.

    Bookmark     May 14, 2012 at 6:02PM
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paulsiu(5a)

If it's shaded by a maple, I am surprise that it's moist. Perhaps because it's raised. How dim is the shade?

How long did you give for the hosta to be established. Small hostas are very slow growing and may take a while. You mentioned slugs, what's causing the current plant to fail?

Paul

    Bookmark     May 13, 2012 at 6:49PM
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gardenfanatic(MO zone5b)

I've learned that tree roots will grow up into things like compost piles and raised beds. Maybe tree roots are strangling the hostas?

Ferns will grow in heavy shade.

Deanna

    Bookmark     May 14, 2012 at 9:01AM
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denninmi(8a)

I have those, they're pretty trouble-free and easy to grow. Bulbs of the common species are available in the fall from the larger bulb vendors, such as Van Engelen.

http://vanengelen.com/catview.cgi?_fn=Product&_category=Best:Camassia

Here is a link that might be useful: You can eat them, too:

    Bookmark     May 13, 2012 at 7:19AM
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perennialfan273(zone 5)

Starts with an 'A', and has blue flowers. Sounds like an amsonia. Perhaps amsonia hubrichtii or amsonia ciliata. Would have to see some pictures.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2012 at 10:15PM
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terrene(5b MA)

Ah yes, some plants are such fleeting beauties - Peonies, Amelanchier, Filipendula, my Miss Kim lilac (SPECTACULAR and fragrant blooms for like 2.5 days), etc. I solve this problem by planting so many flowering things in succession that that there is always something to enjoy! :)

And I agree with Ken, that plant is spectacular! Ken your post is rare form...I have an image of your tree peony floating down the river in a basket like Moses and being rescued Mxk3.

    Bookmark     May 13, 2012 at 9:41PM
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jan_on zone 5b

Ok - I agree that my tree peony is pretty spectacular right now, and we haven't had a storm to take it down this year. And it does look healthy all year and demands absolutely no care except a bit of pruning of some of the old woody branches. I've had it since about 1980, so I guess I take it a bit for granted. Thanks for the new perspectives. But I'm using my space for hostas these days, so I'm not planning any more - not even Ken's free one!
Jan

    Bookmark     May 13, 2012 at 10:04PM
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steve1young(7A)

Obviously, dmoore' is trying to figure out why they're not flowering or not yet showing signs that they will flower.

Could you please provide more information? How long ago did the foliage emerge? Have they flowered in the past? What kind of soil/sun/moisture conditions are they planted in?

    Bookmark     May 11, 2012 at 5:25PM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

And are these Dicentra spectabilis (the old-fashioned bleeding hearts) or one of the newer D. eximia hybrids?

    Bookmark     May 13, 2012 at 11:18AM
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