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linnea56(z5 IL)

Wow! Thanks for the invite! One of my favorite plants, even though not all of them live.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 10:14PM
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tepelus(6a SW MI)

I think the heuchera forum is getting more traffic right now than the perennials forum.

Karen

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 10:54PM
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Carrie B(6B/7A)

ornithogalum umbellatum, star of Bethlehem.

Here is a link that might be useful: ornithogalum umbellatum

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 10:17PM
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pam_whitbyon(6 Niagara)

Thanks, Carrie! That was quick :)

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 10:23PM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

Yup.

Probably a squirrel. That's what they do to mine.

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 1:19PM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

Forgot to say, it seems like they do this only when the sprouts are somewhat young. I don't have problems once the plants mature. At least that's how these demons behave around here. So if you use the chicken wire now, you could probably take it off later in the season.

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 1:22PM
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Campanula UK Z8

thought a lot of them were sterile although I do know there are seed grown petunias.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 6:59AM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

"Laura Bush" reseeded a bit here.

I suspect that at least some petunia varieties are only temporary annuals in Houston and start petering out when consistent summer heat arrives (late May on average), so letting them go to seed when the decline becomes obvious sounds like a good idea.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 10:17AM
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Campanula UK Z8

yep, cut it back, not just the blooms. This is known as the 'Chelsea Chop' because it is done in late May, the time of the Chelsea Flower show (ranting as usual on the antiques rose forum, I loathe Chelsea) and is often used to cut back tall, late blooming perennials such as heleniums, asters, rudbeckias. The plants will grow bushier, flower a bit later (they WILL flower again) and not grow so tall that they need staking.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 6:36AM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

Unless the vegetative growth is sparse or looking unhealthy, I'd enjoy the flowers and cut the flowering stems off when they're spent to prevent seeding.

The plant will probably bloom at the normal time next year.

This thread has reminded me I need to pot on a bunch of Helenium seedlings I started a couple of months ago.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 10:14AM
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Campanula UK Z8

dig a foundation footing , fill with a 6:1 mix of sand to cement and lay the first layer of top of the wet concrete - Pond liner (butyl rubber) will work a bit but grass will creep underneath for a surprisingly long way. You need to get down to a decent depth (30cm) as rhizomatous grasses will simply go undergroun and emerge in the light but they are relatively shallow rooted, unlike bindweed). Main downside is the permanence of such structures.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 6:54AM
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calistoga_al ca 15 usda 9

At my old house I had a common lawn with a neighbor and had to put a barrier down 18 inches to keep her grass out of my property. Al

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 9:22AM
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summersunlight(5b)

When you trap them and more appear, do you think it's new ground hogs moving in or babies of the ones that you've trapped? If new groundhogs keep being attracted to your yard, maybe you can try to reduce hiding places for them like tall grass/weeds, brush piles, etc. that they're said to like hiding in.
Did you see the recent thread about the systemic repellant that has been newly developed? It might be another option.

Here is a link that might be useful: Thread about new systemic pellets

    Bookmark     May 11, 2012 at 10:26PM
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lam702

I have a shed that they live under, also a forsythia hedge that despite my cutting it back, grows prolifically and I think it lives in there. There is also a vacant, overgrown lot next to us where I think a lot of them live. Also, bordering the back of the property, a protected woodlands. So, lots of nice places for them to live. I've resigned myself to the fact that every year there will be more but it is still frustrating. Eventually, they do venture into the trap, but it takes some time and in the meantime, they are gobbling up everything in sight. My veggie garden is fine, due to a 6 foot chain link fence. But my flower beds are not fenced. I prefer them unfenced, but I am beginning to see this is not practical. I do have several digitalis, planted just because they are poisonous and they haven't been touched. They just walk right by the digitalis and head for the delphs. I would like to get some monkshood, but haven't seen it locally or in any of the websites I usually purchase from. In past years, I've planted flowers that I know for sure they won't eat, but the list is limited and I got tired of my choices being dictated by a rodent!

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 7:22AM
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nicoleternity(6a)

I just googled this for pics - because I was curious - if you got this one lucky you, look how cute!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/lawrence_chard/6555666753/

Here is a link that might be useful: Pic of Candlelabra

    Bookmark     May 11, 2012 at 3:49PM
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Campanula UK Z8

damp, peaty soil, not too much sun. Lovely plants and well suited, I think, for the PNW. You can let it seed around if you are lucky, or you can sow the seeds yourself while they are still fresh and green on the plants).

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 6:39AM
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Campanula UK Z8

2! Have lots of acreage then? The spinosus and spinossissimas are a bit shy of blooming but they will - if not this year, then next. Likely to need a bit of surreptitious staking too.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 6:23AM
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athenainwi

I'd let it bloom. I've had mums do the same thing and I've tried to both ways. Every time I try to pinch it the plant just keeps trying to bloom until I leave it alone. The ones I have left alone will bloom and look nice and then often bloom again (although not as much) in the fall. Either way, it won't act normally until next year so I figure you might as well see what blooms you can get.

    Bookmark     May 9, 2012 at 3:27PM
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northerner_on(Z5A ONCanada)

One question, two conflicting answers!! My inclination is to remove the blooms and maybe some of the stems primarily because the flowers are looking kind of shabby after a few days of rain. I have never seen Mums forced, but now I guess it must be for the Mother's Day sales. I will trim it, let it recover for a little while and then put it in the ground and see what happens. I am still waiting for my Sheffield Pink to 'awake'. Thank you both.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 2:58AM
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gazania_gw

marquest...not even close. Here is Ruby Stella

    Bookmark     May 11, 2012 at 7:00PM
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marquest(z5 PA)

Thank you for posting a pic. You are right it really is red.

    Bookmark     May 12, 2012 at 12:45AM
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finchelover(5b-6)

I also got quack grass in my flower bed,my daughter clean it up alot and then she used roundup protecting my lilies after they bloom we will move the bulbs and do more spraying and hope to get rid of it., Good Luck to us both

    Bookmark     May 10, 2012 at 3:09PM
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sujiwan_gw 6b MD/PA

When overlapping cardboard is utilized under mulch to keep down the weeds, how does water percolate down to the roots of the plants? WOuldn't you have to really keep the area well wetted to get the cardboard to break down enough to let water through?

    Bookmark     May 11, 2012 at 9:51PM
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christinmk z5b eastern WA

My Crater Lake Blue Veronica blooms heavily, though not for a long time (like noted by the above posters). I seem to recall mine didn't bloom much the first couple years either. Now several years later this is what I get:


It is very useful in the spot I have it in, a small section wedged inbetween the rock lined pathway and an evergreen. A spot that is often stepped on by accident, lol. I could totally undersand not keeping it if space was limited and you wanted something with longer bloom time though.
CMK

    Bookmark     May 9, 2012 at 10:24PM
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mommy_montero

Christinmk, that's beautiful! I actually have mine next to the same kind of geranium as the one in your picture (got it at the farmer's market and I don't know the name). So now at least I know that if the veronica ever blooms, it will be a good color combination. Mine also doesn't look that bushy. It's more of a trailer.

Prariemoon & wieslaw, I just read somewhere that veronicas almost never need feeding. I think I'll give it one one more year, with no more alpaca poop, and if it doesn't get better out it goes. Thanks for your input, everybody.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2012 at 8:24PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

who knows.. go for it...

the worst that will happen.. is nothing.. and you will be all set for next year ...

in my z5.. they have barely leafed out.. so there would be time ...

if yours have already set flowers.. i suspect too late..

but what do you have to lose??

ken

    Bookmark     May 11, 2012 at 8:38AM
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happylady1957

Thanks, you're right, what do I have to lose? Thanks!

    Bookmark     May 11, 2012 at 6:10PM
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samnsarah(KS Zone 6b)

Actually, I think most of the caterpillars attacking gardens this year are from moths. There have been gobs of moths this year due to the undecayed leaf litter from a mild winter with very little snow.

    Bookmark     May 11, 2012 at 2:00PM
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