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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

why do you use the term PLUG ...

in the greenhouse world.. that means a one centimeter square plug .. in trays of 100 to 250.. or whatever..

and they are PLUGGED into cell packs ... and grown in the greenhouse for a month or two .. until they are ready for retail ...

those can NOT go in the ground..as they are probably less than a half inch tall ...

if you are talking large cell pack plants... your concern.. is planting 4 to 6 weeks before the real heat of summer hits...

if you pot them.. then they would remain potted until fall .. cool nights.. for planting in the ground ...

ergo.. the issue is.. how long do you want to fool around with pots..

this quandary is another good reason to have a small HOLDING BED [critical care unit, in a hospital] ... where small things can get the extra TLC.. but you dont have to mess with pots.. which eventually get forgotten in my world.. lol ...

plugs or cell packs???

ken

    Bookmark     May 7, 2012 at 8:11AM
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Nevermore44 - 6a

Since I am not that best at keeping pots evenly watered during the heat of summer, i typically plant out my seedlings direct in the garden. They are just in the standard 2x2 peat pots. If you are talking about true nursery plugs... i would pot them up for a bit.

The few things i do to help the transition is to minimally tear off the top portion of the peat pot so that the rim doesn't protrude from the soil. If the peat pot is exposed to the air... it can act as a wick for water.. which then can dry out the roots more quickly compared to the surrounding soil. Depending on the plant, i may or may not break up the rest of the peat pot that ends up below the surface of the soil.

I also make sure that i add on some fine soil on top to completely cover the soilless mix that the seedling was grown in... again.. i don't want the air to quickly dry out the soilless mix.

    Bookmark     May 7, 2012 at 10:29AM
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gardenbug(Canada zone 5)

We are entertaining guests tomorrow with photos of Haiti by DS and by his friend from Madagascar. Food should be easy BBQ stuff.

The garden is still exciting with spring things popping up. I hope to be able to plant things in about 3 weeks, but we'll have to wait and see. Still plenty of weeds to be pulled and then vegetables to start. My plant sitters did an excellent job...so nothing was lost.

We have Phoebe back home and she seems sleepy after her ride home. She also ate grass and threw up! (Joy!) She loves being outdoors and watching us prepare things for tomorrow.

Our DD's brother-in-law found a tiny foal on his property. The vet hopes it will survive, but that is not yet certain. The good news is that he seems stronger each day and is starting to drink milk. Ivy has enjoyed him as part of her birthday present. She's officially 3 now. The foal is probably from a wild horse and therefore the vet says BIL can legally keep it as he has the space and the desire to do so. I'm not able to post photos right now but will try to share them tomorrow.

I'll leave you with the following link showing some photos of the Haitian school where we spent much of our 2 week stay.

Here is a link that might be useful: Buildingaschool, May5-2012

    Bookmark     May 5, 2012 at 11:11PM
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gardenbug(Canada zone 5)

Ivy's birthday with foal!

Success so far - DD feeding foal

Ivy's birthday...

with cake.

Gardening tools

Ivy as mountain goat...Such a steady climber!

Big brother is 13 now. Dad teaches him dancing!

All three "camping" indoors:

    Bookmark     May 7, 2012 at 7:13AM
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kentstar(5b, NE Ohio)

Never had a seedling. Almost wish I did!

    Bookmark     May 6, 2012 at 9:58PM
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goldenbuckeye(5/6 OH)

I think mxk3 has the answer to my problem only I don't think I have to worry about it reseeding because I use Preen. Maybe I can try shaking the trimmings over a pan of potting soil to see if they'll germinate. Wonder how long it will take them?
Thanks to all who replied. GW has so many wonderful, helpful people.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2012 at 10:09PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

ok.. you are messin with me.. i swear to God i answered this this morning ...

and its the same answer as why the peony flowers are at low production ...

ken

Here is a link that might be useful: link

    Bookmark     May 6, 2012 at 4:52PM
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mxk3(Zone 6 SE MI)

LOL!

Thanks for your reply in the tree forum :0)

    Bookmark     May 6, 2012 at 9:46PM
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hudsonriverbug

I did research what Sevin is affective for, and with such broad coverage it was disappointing to see more destruction.

Sorry I didn't describe the issues better---Small 'holes' are all over the Hostas, but on the Echinacea large areas of leaves are totally gone, and the Helianthus are down to just stems, much the same as the Marigolds. We've had quite a bit of rain since the Sevin dust was applied, so I'm thinking that its affectiveness has probably washed away, since we put it on 2 weeks ago.

Got new batteries in the flashlight and I'll go out sleuthing tonight. Don't know if leafhoppers and grasshoppers are active in the dark, but it's sure worth taking a look. Thanks for the suggestions!

    Bookmark     May 6, 2012 at 7:51PM
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Bumblebeez SC Zone 7

Down to stems sounds like rabbits and small holes either slugs or caterpillars ( future butterflies, remember).

I haven't found any good solutions for keeping bunnies away...

    Bookmark     May 6, 2012 at 8:59PM
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rhizo_1 (North AL) zone 7

What, if any, affect will this product have on pollinators or others who gather pollen and/or nectar? What about birds and other animals who feed on any seeds or fruit from treated plants?

    Bookmark     May 6, 2012 at 2:40AM
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mad_gallica(zone 5 - eastern New York)

My understanding is that is it a capsicum* product. Chipmunks and squirrels may be the only animals commonly affected by trying to eat fruit from the plants, and I expect most people here would consider that to be a good thing.

*hot pepper extract - harmless to birds and insects, spicy hot to mammals. So the question would be whether the fruit is feeding any non-nuisance mammals.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2012 at 10:27AM
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whaas_5a(5A SE WI)

Looks like I am now! Figured for $5 can't hurt to try...just hate to waste the time to try something that isn't that exotic.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2012 at 8:55AM
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junco1102(5b)

My Citronelle has the exact same brown spots. I am thinking that it is getting too much sun, and am going to move to a shadier spot. Hopefully that will help.

    Bookmark     May 6, 2012 at 12:04AM
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Carrie B(6B/7A)

Several of my light colored heuchera got very similar markings right after a 90 degree day in April...

    Bookmark     May 6, 2012 at 8:25AM
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terrene(5b MA)

Sorry to hear about your black eyed susans. I'm not sure which species you're talking about. I usually think of BES as Rudbeckia hirta, aka Gloriosa Daisy and other names I'm sure, which is a short-lived perennial. The longest I've had them live was 3 years, but often they don't make it over the winter.

Rudbeckia fulgida is more perennial, also known as BES. But not very drought-tolerant in my garden and I've lost clumps of this due to drought. They were planted in the xeric garden and didn't seem well adapted to it. Also, I lost a couple to voles during the winter of 2010-11.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2012 at 6:19PM
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dowlinggram

If you want a plant this year I'd go for the plant. Perennial seeds usually take until the next year to bloom unless you start them super early.

Here's a suggestion--Get the seed and grow it in a small nursery bed and plant them out next spring and grow some annual rudbeckia (gloriosa Daisy)in your flower bed Some have flowers and height similar to brown eyed susans.

Spring is the best time to transplant perennials. If they don't get their roots settled in before the ground is frozen you run the risk of them not making it. In spring when they show 3 or 4 inches of growth is the time to transplant

    Bookmark     May 5, 2012 at 6:32PM
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Marian_2(Z6 ARKozarks)

Hi ! I haven't had time to read all the past posts, but I did see where Eileen and Bab are asking about me. I have had the computer off for the most part yesterday and today.
Tim and the girls came yesterday afternoon and will be in the vicinity until Friday. They have gone swimming in the nearby river this afternoon.
Also, I made the range trade, and have waited for the delivery of the new one today. I kept the computer off in case the delivery man needed to call. It was delivered this afternoon, after the kids left to go swimming.

It is much more simple, as I wanted. As the deliveryman said, it doesn't have all the "bells and whistles" to go haywire. I will be content with it...regardless.

Earlier today a friend from town brought me a secondhand computer ( a Dell ), and a monitor. Tim isn't too happy with them ( naturally we thanked her profusely) , but he would much rather I get a new one, and a larger monitor, (this one is smaller than my old one). I don't know if he will be willing to install them.
She also brought us a new window air conditioner! I don't think it is big enough to do us much good...but what can you say? Her heart certainly was right!

Ennyhoo, we are fine.

I haven't heard from the relatives again, and hope to call my sister in the morning after the company goes to town to visit friends. I presume no news is good news.

TTYAL
Marian

    Bookmark     June 14, 2006 at 5:04PM
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Gigi4444

Hi, I am in Nothern Vermont zone 4. Have zone 5 plants that do well here. Love the CI. New Dawn (Weeks roses)a climbing rose...18' to 20'. Will it grow here in zone 4? Have a very hard time with roses. Last year bought a "on its own root" bush that is doing very well. But the "grown on its own roots" are limited. any suggestions will be great.
Thanks
gigi

    Bookmark     May 5, 2012 at 12:57PM
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MollyDog(6 PA)

Ostrich ferns? Thet spread but are easy enough to control.

    Bookmark     May 5, 2012 at 9:21AM
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hunt4carl

Should have come to the Connecticut Plant Swap last Sunday. . .I could have
brought you plenty! Their swap is open to anyone, so crossing the state
line would be legit. . .check them out on NE Gardening Forum.

Monarda 'Raspberry Wine' is pretty easy to find. . .online, I know that it's
available at Bluestone Perennials, Lazy S'S Farm Nursery, Digging Dog Nursery, Niche Gardens and Well-Sweep Herb Farm, to name just a few. Well-Sweep is a great place to visit in Northwestern New Jersey, and an easy day trip from the Hudson Valley.

Depending on where you are located along the Hudson, I know that
Rosedale Nurseries on 9-A in Hawthorne, NY, carries it, too. . .I was just
there last weekend and they have the bulk of their perennials out already,
but it's always wise to call first if you're making a special trip.

Carl

    Bookmark     May 3, 2012 at 11:22PM
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shelleyh(z5 NY)

Thanks for the info!

    Bookmark     May 4, 2012 at 7:22AM
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noinwi

Toadflax or Butter and Eggs, Linaria vulgaris

Here is a link that might be useful: Toadflax

    Bookmark     May 3, 2012 at 11:57PM
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mytime(3/4 Alaska)

At least in my area, this plant is impossible to get rid of. It is a "short-lived" perennial that reseeds like crazy AND spreads from underground nodes on the roots. Supposedly only 10% of the seeds germinate, but that means about 3000 germinating seeds/plant!

    Bookmark     May 4, 2012 at 1:52AM
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diggerdee zone 6 CT

See link below - Thanks Marie!

Dee

Here is a link that might be useful: Ready as I'll ever be

    Bookmark     May 3, 2012 at 10:24PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

when the pod is ripe.. the magical top will pop open to release the seeds ...

to INSURE the seed is ripe.. you should wait until this sign tells you they are ripe..

at that time either spread them around.. or dump them into an envelope and store appropriately ...

if you had started your own post.. this reply could have come to your email.. rather than the long lost posters email ...

NOT all poppy will reseed freely.. so starting with an ID would be a good way to start ... obviously yours is perennial ...

apparently you are real good at deadheading .. lol ... seed collecting would be the polar opposite of cutting all the flower scapes off as soon as flowers fade

ken

    Bookmark     May 3, 2012 at 7:35AM
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remy_gw

The seeds are ripe and ready to be collected when holes develop between the top cap looking part of the pod and the base. This will happen as the pod browns.
Remy

    Bookmark     May 3, 2012 at 10:09PM
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