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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

having lived in metro detroit.. of which livonia is..

my personal theory on the z6 that flanks the river and lake st clair..

is all the cement and black top ... retaining winter heat.. and adding just a degree or two in winter.. so that min winter temp is JUST SLIGHTLY higher than z5 ..

plus.. the lack of the prairie like winds i now get in the country.. out adrian way ...

in the city.. you can make and maintain little pockets of micro climate.. which i simply cant do.. do to all the wide open spaces ...

ken

    Bookmark     April 28, 2012 at 3:44PM
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nicoleternity(6a)

lol I may have the zone wrong I am no expert by far - the map I looked at on the weather channel listed my area of Oakland county as zone 6a, but it might be far from the best authority on zones.

N

    Bookmark     May 2, 2012 at 4:23PM
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gazania_gw

I am also a huge fan. I have had it for at least 8 years, and have never "divided" it. I have taken small clumps of it to plant in other places around the yard, but I don't think of that as dividing. It does get quite ratty looking in early spring. I just go over it with a wire rake to get out the worst of the dead leaves. By mid May the new growth has filled in and the blooming has begun.

This year is going to be different...we have had a strange spring. Very early warm temps in March had the new growth on it well advanced when we got a night of below 20 degrees. All the new growth was killed and since then the temperatures have varied wildly day to day. The Dimity and everything else is having a hard time with this erratic weather.

For those unfamiliar with what you and I so love, here is a picture. This Persicaria is hard to find, but is worth looking for.

    Bookmark     May 2, 2012 at 7:52AM
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rouge21_gw(5)

A bit OT but another hard to find but interesting looking Persicaria is Purple Fantasy.

    Bookmark     May 2, 2012 at 1:49PM
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steve1young(7A)

I have it in a spot with good soil, good light, and regular watering. For my climate/conditions/soil etc it seems to behave very much like Monarda in that I have to do some pulling around the edges of the clump in order to keep it from spreading too much. Granted, it's a little bit harder to pull than Mondarda (the Poly' roots/rhizomes are deeper in the ground than the surface hugging roots of Monarda), but it's not too hard to do.

Best of luck!

Steve

    Bookmark     May 1, 2012 at 5:57PM
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aachenelf z5 Mpls

Thank you Steve.

Kevin

    Bookmark     May 2, 2012 at 1:39PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

one uses potting MEDIA in a pot.. since it is made for a pot.. pot..pot ... MEDIA ...MEDIA ...MEDIA ...

no where in that sentence ... does it suggest you stuff mother earth .. aka SOIL.. into a pot ..

one or the other is best.. not half and half ...

make sense

ken

    Bookmark     May 2, 2012 at 1:19PM
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mycitygarden

yeah, ken...I told you I was brain dead...perhaps I was distracted by the rather amusing hosta forum video on how to extract a hosta from Don R.'s pot to give it back to him...THAT was 'garden soil'...and perhaps I was just disgusted AND distracted by how badly astilbes 'thrive' in my garden b/c it's just probably TOO dark & too full of CLAY....*sigh*...thanks for letting me RANT...

I'm going to go home to my poor astilbe after school & rescue it.

Thanks for responding so quickly! (were you hovering? LOL)

Melissa

    Bookmark     May 2, 2012 at 1:33PM
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steve1young(7A)

In my experience with evergreen Euphorbias, if when I cut out the flowered/spent stems and there is no new growth coming up from the base, then it's shot. But, that's how it's worked for me in my climate/garden/conditions/soil etc. I hope you get lucky.

I'm a huge fan of Ascot Rainbow and First Blush. They don't reseed for me. I like Chocolate quite a lot, but it does reseed quite a lot. If I'm on top of my deadheading game (not usually) then it's not a problem. Otherwise, it reseeds in different parts of my property even, but not too vigorously.

I'm trying out Rudolph this year. We'll see how it goes.

Best of luck to you!

    Bookmark     May 1, 2012 at 6:04PM
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gardengal48 (PNW Z8/9)

I'd agree with both 'Ascot Rainbow' and 'Rudolph' for color - and they are xmartinii hybrids so not inclined to self-seed. 'Ruby Glow' is another one that offers a lot of color but like Blackbird, not one I'd consider a good bet for the long haul. That intensity of color seems to have diminishing effect on vigor in my experience.

Self-seeding euphorbias can be an enormous PITA in climates where they are so inclined......to the point where some species are borderline invasive. That is a problem with most of the selections of E. characias (like Humpty Dumpty) but I love the intensity and boldness of wulfenii so much, I am willing to put up with yanking out extraneous seedlings.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2012 at 7:38PM
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athenainwi

I haven't gotten it yet, but it's on my list. I haven't had a bad nepeta yet so I'm very hopeful.

    Bookmark     May 1, 2012 at 1:32PM
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rouge21_gw(5)

Given that it is quite new the only 4 pictures I can see are courtesy of the grower TERRA NOVA. But from those it doesn't appear to be as floriferous as other nepetas?

    Bookmark     May 1, 2012 at 6:35PM
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TulsaRose (Rosie)(7a)

Cottage Gardens has Gaura lindheimeri 'Dauphine' for $9.95\2qt

Here is a link that might be useful: Gaura lindheimeri 'Dauphine'

    Bookmark     May 1, 2012 at 7:22AM
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buyorsell888(Zone 8 Portland OR)

Today is the last day...

    Bookmark     April 30, 2012 at 6:02PM
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Bumblebeez SC Zone 7

Give it time and you will have lots and lots of veronica. I rip up big patches each year to keep it in check. I dump wheelbarrows of that stuff. All from 2 small pots.

    Bookmark     April 29, 2012 at 9:43PM
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prairiemoon2 z6 MA

Veronica 'Blue Reflections' and 'Waterperry' are nice too. But they are not in bloom for all that long. I don't know of anything that is. Maybe the iceplant, but it doesn't grow well in my clay soil. If you are looking for full sun? I have Veronica in both full sun and part sun and I was very surprised how quickly the full sun Veronica filled in. The part sun has stayed in place for a few years

    Bookmark     April 30, 2012 at 5:02PM
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lou_texas(8a N Central TX)

Do any of you grow gaura 'Dauphin'? I'm hunting it and have been for several years. What varieties of gaura do you grow? It is a beautiful sun plant. I love it with my roses. Thanks, Lou

    Bookmark     April 30, 2012 at 12:34PM
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gardenweed_z6a

lou_texas - The one in my photo & garden is Gaura lindheimeri 'The Bride.' I've never heard of 'Dauphin.'

    Bookmark     April 30, 2012 at 4:22PM
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alina_1

These Heuchera babies (and other plants) look lovely! Hope you are happy with order from Garden Crossings. I remember that I was able to divide the Heuchera I received from them into 3 separate plants when received it. Clematis had better roots than those I got from famous Clematis-only nurseries.

My small Hydrangea and roses I received from them this spring look great. We will have 90F this week - a good test for baby plants with transplanting shock.

    Bookmark     April 30, 2012 at 10:19AM
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marquest(z5 PA)

Thank you alina, We are suppose to be hot this week also but rain all week so that will give everything a good start.

The Hercs are not that big. They look good but they are not big. I am happy they look healthy but I have told my friends to not get anymore gift certificates from them. For the price and size I have done better.

The Bloomerang Lilac was a little seedling. I saw them at Costco for less and they were huge. These are liners they got and did not grow them out long enough. I put it in the nursery bed and will hope for the best.

The clematis are the best of the lot.

If they are going to go smaller they need to throw in a thank you plant like some of the other vendors I have dealt with. Greed will get you less in the long run. Word gets around.

    Bookmark     April 30, 2012 at 1:52PM
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ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5

NEVER fertilize a stressed plant ...

do you force feed sick kids???

let it do its thing.. before you love it to death ...

ken

    Bookmark     April 29, 2012 at 12:15PM
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freki(5a)

that's why I'll feed it very lightly next month, after the thermal cycling stresses are done, & not heavily right now. :-) If it still looks sick I'll forgo the feed.

I checked.. nothing seems to be wrong with the roots: no grubs, other nibblers, or mushiness.

    Bookmark     April 29, 2012 at 9:56PM
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sujiwan_gw 6b MD/PA

Well, as long as you put it THAT way, Ken. ((LOL))

    Bookmark     April 28, 2012 at 5:18PM
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rusty_blackhaw(6a)

I agree with mollydog's recommendations. "Sheffield" is rock-hardy here. I view all of the potted mums sold in fall in this area as annuals, especially if there is no growth visible at the base of the plant.

Last year I decided to give seed-grown Korean mums another try, and I have good-sized clumps this spring (true, it was a mild winter here). I'll be trimming them back in a couple of weeks which will give me material for cuttings and should result in more bushy, well-rounded plants.

    Bookmark     April 29, 2012 at 8:39PM
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my2boyz

my globemaster are multiplying and standing straight up at attention, here in MT. Bizarre they grow an inch a day...expect to bloom in 2 weeks.

    Bookmark     April 29, 2012 at 1:32AM
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my2boyz

oh...I should say, I believe this is their third or fourth year. However, I have the small white ones with beautiful foliage...I just don't like them.

    Bookmark     April 29, 2012 at 2:01AM
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tepelus(6a SW MI)

Well, I'll let my pictures do the talking:

Gunsmoke--improved greatly after I moved it from underneath a dogwood tree to a new bed free of tree roots

Sweet Tea--gets bigger and better every year

Brass Lanterns--need I say anything?

Solar Power--new last year, growing well this year

Karen

    Bookmark     April 25, 2012 at 6:26PM
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boday

Shoutout to Redstone Falls. Survived a very little snow here in Zon 3/4. Doing nicely.

    Bookmark     April 29, 2012 at 1:50AM
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