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I have a NOID hardy mum that was planted in a fall pot last year and wintered over and rebloomed this fall. Two days after Thanksgiving I cut the still lovely blooms and put the pot in the garage to overwinter.
Two other plants that have been blooming through the frosts are gaillardia 'Burgundy' and my primroses. I checked yesterday and the primroses still have some nice blossoms but the gaillardia looks done.
Wow, thanks so much everybody!
I don't think I was thinking about the fact that there could be more kinds of clay soil than one, but I know it will be amended and mulched.
The astrantias are really nice-looking and I'm not sure why I always pass them up when I see them in catalogues.
Corrine, thanks for the pic- I love the crocosmias (I think I've got the right plant) overarching :)
Kimka, I also love Hepatarica (and anemonellas)and just saw Jeffersonia as well and desperately want.
Crocosmia 'Lucifer' is the arching one in that pic. Seems to transplant here better if I have a large chunk of a division with roots rather than dried out corms from a swap. The dried out ones don't ever grow for me especially if transplanted in fall. All of my spring moved plants have done well & even bloomed!
Now that winter is almost here the evergreens are shining bright & the Carex 'Ice Dance' is the star of the show & they're barely visible when the hosta are out. Heuchera are also nearly evergreen in my climate.
-wieslaw, lol! Thanks for the warning. If I do end up getting it and it DOES turn out to be an invader feel free to tell me "I TOLD YOU SO!" ;-D
-gottagarden, fantastic! The orange poppies really bring out the orange in the Euphorbia amongst all the greenery.
CMK
ken_adrian wrote:
zone .. simply put.. is minimum winter temp ... and the issue is how long it stays at that min temp
Ken, that is much too simple. Then again maybe this is the case for the United States but it is definitely not true for Canada or Europe.
And I quote from the "Agriculture Canada" website:
Agriculture Canada scientists created a plant hardiness map using Canadian plant survival data and a wider range of climatic variables, inincluding minimum winter temperatures, length of the frost-free period, summer rainfall, maximum temperatures, snow cover, January rainfall and maximum wind speed.
Is it still the case that the US Dept of Agr still only considers minimum winter temps in arriving at the US plant hardiness zones? If so I am very surprised.
Ken, I'm in Kansas City, and the ground most definitely freezes here. Snow cover can be iffy, but that doesn't mean the ground isn't frozen. What it does mean is that the plants aren't insulated from the cold. Not to mention, it's very windy here. In order to survive this climate, the plants have to be able to survive cold Arctic air in the winter and hot, humid Gulf air from the south in the summer. Most plants can adapt to one or the other, but not necessarily both. It bites!
Deanna
I don't have any photos of Veronica 'Georgia Blue' in bloom, but here's a photo out of bloom showing its growth habit. (I'm sure that it would be easy to Google for a photo of it blooming.) It's the short, fine-textured foliage that is between and Heuchera and the Siberian iris and then runs backwards and under the lilac on the right side of the photo. The part under the lilac gets virtually no sun, and looks about the same as the part that gets 2 or three hours of sun.
From June 2010
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You can very easily check whether it is novi-angliae or belgii. If the leaves are hairy, then it is novi-angliae. Novi-belgii has smooth leaves. Additionally, novi-angliae closes its flowers in rain(with 1 or 2 exceptions), novi-belgii stays open. Judging only by the picture, the probability for novi-belgii is very low in my opinion. The plant looks too clumpy(novi-belgii has a running habit). Additionally by the time of blooming the upper leaves of novi-belgii would normally be covered by mildew and lower leaves would be eaten by other fungi, unless sprayed with tons of chemicals.There are a few varietes of novi-belgii that are more resistant to mildew, but they are European and mostly available in Germany.
November 24th. We had 2 nights with freezing. All chrysanthemum flowers survived , but white Poesie turned to pink now.
Some fresh shots:
Chrysanthemum Mary Stoker. Hardy in open places and stands well. Flowers are relatively easily destroyed by wind+rain.
Rudbeckia Herbstsonne pushed some flowers from dry-looking stems
My own seedling. Very hardy, very late, tall, very well standing up. I love robust plants which radiate energy.
Aster Freiburg
Small wine red buttons, own seedling, hardy.
Chrysanthemum Manito. Hardy. Similar to Schweizerland, but later and taller and slower growing.
Weigela tree.
Not many pictures left.
November 25th. Helenium Luc decided to push a new flower out of a dry stem. I wonder what it wants to prove... Here behind the phlox Herbstwalzer.
Mardi Gras made a green stem with a flower on it. How naive can they actually be?
Nuts on Davidia involucrata. I planted 3 nuts 17 years ago and 2 of them sprouted. One started blooming at the age of 15, the other one at 17. Gorgeous little tree.
I have discovered that one of my seedlings chrysanthemums is actually 2 different seedlings planted together. The small yellow buttons is the nice surprice.
I'm one of the last people who has any right to come across as the spelling police!
I wasn't sure if you really meant "healing" in.... To me the spelling changed it from a manly throw it in the ground- kick it with your foot kind of activity to one where you are trying to heal the poor plant of some kind of late season planting insult.... Maybe even talking to the plant and trying to work through a couple of its overwintering fears.... Ok I'm reading way too far into this.
heeling.. is something the british perfected.. with plants like hosta.. to crush the crown of the plant with your heel .. to stimulate release of dormant buds.. to make a larger plant ...
heeling in .. is temporarily planting stock .... to hold them over for a season ...
actually i think they are spelled the same ... but google has failed me.. and with the caffeine rush.. i am not caring any more right now.. lol
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think of it this way ..
they are a fall flowering plant.. so they trigger bloom as the days get shorter ... and right now.. the days are nearly as short as they will be ....
so rhiz is suggesting that they will not trigger again.. until the sun starts rising on the horizon ....
probably some scientific term for such.. photo-something-or-another ... lol ...
i cant think of anything outdoors.. in late november.. in the northern hemisphere .. that is going to rebloom this time of year .... [leaving out the tropical areas, or course.. and the sub tropic deep south]
ken
thanks everyone
I really love yuccas in pots, however, they would probably not overwinter here unless they were in the ground.
I like the idea of pairing them with ornamental grasses, but need to keep lots of space to stop the grasses from smothering the yucca
gardenworld images was a fun new site to try out
I like your idea of bronze fennel for a complete contrast in texture and color
For the immediate vicinity, I think I'm going with Ken's idea of pairing the yucca with sedum - I could have a nice carpet of low growing sedum that would make the space for the yucca to rise up. Too many of my plants would crowd the yucca.
The ground isn't frozen yet, but it's probably too late for transplanting now. Just idea gathering . . .
I guess I don't really have a good picture but if you look carefully you can see the yucca in the back. I love the plant but it is definately an accent and you need to work around it.
So I made everything around it an accent too! Bright reds, oranges and lots of other variegated plants. Maybe the green of the arborvitae calms it down a bit. Maybe. My wife didn't like this bed a all btw.....
Most of the plantings are annuals so I don't know if this is helpful, and I don't know if I'd like to look at this combo every year in a perennial version, but a brave gardener might want to embrace the bold and try the yucca with some goldsturm rudbeckia and maybe a tiger eyes sumac. Then add a color accent of red or purple... a phlox? but something airier might be nicer.
Thanks, that's a relief. Not sure why I didn't notice them last year. Whaas, I think it's a soulangeana. Babs, you're right, the buds do have a lovely velvety sheen to them!
Ken, it's pure luck (procrastination) that almost the entire shrub didn't get a big haircut in September. Whew, now I know!
Thanks all!
Pam
shrubs NEVER get hair cuts...
when you seem inspired... google [or come back here] ... REJUVENATION PRUNING OF FLOWERING SHRUBS .... i made it easy.. check the link.. read one or two .. so the seed of proper pruning.. will be planted you your gray matter ...
NEVER.. EVER... a hair cut at height ... selective pruning.. maybe ... but not a hair cut ...
ken
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Where abouts in a west coast zone 8 are you located? Phormiums are not uncommon plants pretty much anywhere along the west coast and I'd have a hard time imagining too many of the local larger retail nurseries not carrying a good selection......you can even find them at my local HD!! One caveat, however :-) I'd suggest that rather than looking for very specific cultivars - which may not be all that readily available - take advantage of whatever cultivars offered that fit your requirements. Phormiums are really only borderline hardy in zone 8 and if you live in the PNW zone 8 with our routinely wet winters coupled with a good arctic blast or two, it is unusual to find phormiums surviving more than a couple of seasons. In fact, a good many PNW nurseries now treat them as more or less seasonal plants. It would be a shame to invest too much $$ into a lot of different and hard to find phormiums to not have them survive for very long.
FWIW, I have never seen phormiums offered bare root. Not a common sales method for an evergreen plant :-)
Not all nuts eaten by animals are edible for people. Acorns are actually considered toxic for horses. Some species of acorn contain such big amounts of tannins, that they are impossible to eat raw, because they are too bitter. Jays cache a lot of acorns for the winter ,but they often forget where they hid them, thus spreading the oaks everywhere.
Your monthly flower photos are appreciated by me as well. It is interesting to see what is growing in other places and other people's gardens.
My Primula x polyanthus have been blooming all year and still have a few blooms. I am surprised as think of them as only spring bloomers.
I also enjoyed the monthly updates! Thanks